The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Forum > General Topics > Open Discussion Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12 December 2020, 06:52 PM   #1
CMTBRIAN
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: HK
Posts: 9
Icon20 Buying watches from Chrono24

Hi mates,

I am looking around for a patrizzi 16520 and found some good ones on Chrono24 from some global sellers.

Having said that, I had never had prior experience of buying watches from this platform.

Can anyone share with me about your experiences? Good or bad, whatever...

And anything I should pay attention when dealing with the potential sellers?

Any comments would be much appreciated.
CMTBRIAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 December 2020, 06:56 PM   #2
Pongster
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Marikina
Posts: 2,561
Youre in Hk. Lots of choices there.

But Chrono24 is good source as well. Bought around 50 watches from them the past three years or so.
Pongster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 December 2020, 06:57 PM   #3
Pongster
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Marikina
Posts: 2,561
Got my AP15400 at the Elements boutique
Pongster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 December 2020, 06:58 PM   #4
Sim1
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Italy
Posts: 120
The great thing about that platform is that in most cases it allows you to pay via their escrow service. You make the payment in full to Chrono24, when they receive it they alert the seller that will send you the watch. Once you receive the watch you have (I believe) 14 days to make sure it's good and legit, and THEN, after your confirmation, Chrono24 will release the payment to the seller. I never bought anything through them as I only buy stuff from official dealers, but I think it's a very good service that protects you from potential frauds.
__________________
Currently in rotation: 116519LN - 116500LN - 116505 - 116506
Sim1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 December 2020, 08:05 PM   #5
Chris B
"TRF" Member
 
Chris B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Peterborough
Posts: 9,631
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sim1 View Post
The great thing about that platform is that in most cases it allows you to pay via their escrow service. You make the payment in full to Chrono24, when they receive it they alert the seller that will send you the watch. Once you receive the watch you have (I believe) 14 days to make sure it's good and legit, and THEN, after your confirmation, Chrono24 will release the payment to the seller. I never bought anything through them as I only buy stuff from official dealers, but I think it's a very good service that protects you from potential frauds.

I've bought a couple of watches using Chrono24, both transactions were as smooth as silk
Chris B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 December 2020, 08:19 PM   #6
Harry-57
2024 Pledge Member
 
Harry-57's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Real Name: Harry
Location: England
Posts: 10,681
I have used C24 to scope two watches I wanted to buy and then contacted the dealers direct. It's all about buying the seller. No amount of protection will make a safe seller any safer of a con artist any less dishonest.

Once you have identified sellers you can research the hell out of them. I think C24 is an excellent resource for getting the ball rolling and for doing some initial weeding, the easiest being looking at the photos. If a seller is using stock photos which are not of the actual watch, or fuzzy images, I move past and keep looking.

They don't actually price or sell or buy watches. They are just an intermediary for anyone who wants to use them for good exposure to potential buyers. What buyers ask on C24 is more than I have ended up paying them - in my limited experience.
Harry-57 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 December 2020, 08:52 PM   #7
fskywalker
2024 Pledge Member
 
fskywalker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Real Name: Francisco
Location: San Juan, PR
Watch: Is Ticking !
Posts: 25,183
Have not purchased watches but did purchased a Rolex dial
from an UK brick and mortar store, everything went smoothly


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
__________________
Francisco
♛ 16610 / 116264
Ω 168.022 / 2535.80.00 / 310.30.42.50.01.002 / 210.90.42.20.01.001
Zenith 02.480.405

2FA security enabled
fskywalker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 December 2020, 09:35 PM   #8
CMTBRIAN
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: HK
Posts: 9
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry-57 View Post
I have used C24 to scope two watches I wanted to buy and then contacted the dealers direct. It's all about buying the seller. No amount of protection will make a safe seller any safer of a con artist any less dishonest.

Once you have identified sellers you can research the hell out of them. I think C24 is an excellent resource for getting the ball rolling and for doing some initial weeding, the easiest being looking at the photos. If a seller is using stock photos which are not of the actual watch, or fuzzy images, I move past and keep looking.

They don't actually price or sell or buy watches. They are just an intermediary for anyone who wants to use them for good exposure to potential buyers. What buyers ask on C24 is more than I have ended up paying them - in my limited experience.
If a seller with overall 4.8 out of 5 among its > 300 ratings (there are some outliners on the ratings dragging down its overall ratings actually), are the 4.8 stars and number of ratings (> 300) sufficient to jump to the conclusion that this seller can be trusted? or that would remain to cast some doubts?
CMTBRIAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 December 2020, 09:42 PM   #9
CMTBRIAN
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: HK
Posts: 9
Thanks all for your quick comments which are very useful indeed.

If a seller has an overall 4.8 out of 5 among its > 300 ratings (some outliners that dragged down its overall ratings actually), do you consider the stars and number of ratings are sufficient to jump to the conclusion that he can be trusted?

His photos seem "actual" as far as the post appears that they are (not stock nor fuzzy photos).
CMTBRIAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 December 2020, 10:09 PM   #10
HHIslander
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: May 2020
Real Name: Henry
Location: USA
Posts: 4,288
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry-57 View Post
I have used C24 to scope two watches I wanted to buy and then contacted the dealers direct. It's all about buying the seller. No amount of protection will make a safe seller any safer of a con artist any less dishonest.

Once you have identified sellers you can research the hell out of them. I think C24 is an excellent resource for getting the ball rolling and for doing some initial weeding, the easiest being looking at the photos. If a seller is using stock photos which are not of the actual watch, or fuzzy images, I move past and keep looking.

They don't actually price or sell or buy watches. They are just an intermediary for anyone who wants to use them for good exposure to potential buyers. What buyers ask on C24 is more than I have ended up paying them - in my limited experience.
+1

I’ve never bought via chrono, but I have used them to find pieces and then buy directly from the seller. Chrono has high fees and you may be able to get it cheaper that way, I did.
HHIslander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 December 2020, 10:54 PM   #11
rmlovett1
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
rmlovett1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Real Name: Richard
Location: GA
Watch: YTBD
Posts: 23,509
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry-57 View Post
I have used C24 to scope two watches I wanted to buy and then contacted the dealers direct. It's all about buying the seller. No amount of protection will make a safe seller any safer of a con artist any less dishonest.

Once you have identified sellers you can research the hell out of them. I think C24 is an excellent resource for getting the ball rolling and for doing some initial weeding, the easiest being looking at the photos. If a seller is using stock photos which are not of the actual watch, or fuzzy images, I move past and keep looking.

They don't actually price or sell or buy watches. They are just an intermediary for anyone who wants to use them for good exposure to potential buyers. What buyers ask on C24 is more than I have ended up paying them - in my limited experience.
⬆️⬆️⬆️ Same for me. I use it as a starting point, then contact a dealer directly.
rmlovett1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 December 2020, 11:07 PM   #12
CMTBRIAN
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: HK
Posts: 9
Quote:
Originally Posted by HHIslander View Post
+1

I’ve never bought via chrono, but I have used them to find pieces and then buy directly from the seller. Chrono has high fees and you may be able to get it cheaper that way, I did.
Wouldn't that makes it so risky if you deal with a seller directly who is basically a stranger without a platform to serve as an intermediary?

True that it may be less expensive to buy a watch by doing so but how to reduce the counterparty risk of the seller, while a watch like Rolex, AP, PP etc in general would be at certain great amount?

At the end of the day, how we can identify a genuine seller selling authentic goods?
CMTBRIAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 December 2020, 11:36 PM   #13
TK-710
2024 Pledge Member
 
TK-710's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Upstate
Watch: 116600
Posts: 2,156
You should reach out to adamod1. He seems very knowledgeable about Chrono24.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=778561
TK-710 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13 December 2020, 12:24 AM   #14
CMTBRIAN
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: HK
Posts: 9
Seriously? Per the link, I don't think his comment on Chrono24 is really taken by others as a good reference...

Anyway, thanks for your inputs.
CMTBRIAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13 December 2020, 12:43 AM   #15
1William
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: North Carolina
Watch: Rolex/Others
Posts: 47,787
I use Chrono24 as a pricing and location reference. I have contacted sellers from Chrono24 before and purchased watches directly from the dealers. My Credit Card has buyer protection and I always buy the seller so the protections from Chrono24 offer me little that I do not have from my CC. You are in Hong Kong so you should easily find some options. Go see them, negotiate, pay and start your ownership experience. Good luck and let us know what you find.
1William is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13 December 2020, 01:12 AM   #16
HHIslander
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: May 2020
Real Name: Henry
Location: USA
Posts: 4,288
Quote:
Originally Posted by CMTBRIAN View Post
Wouldn't that makes it so risky if you deal with a seller directly who is basically a stranger without a platform to serve as an intermediary?

True that it may be less expensive to buy a watch by doing so but how to reduce the counterparty risk of the seller, while a watch like Rolex, AP, PP etc in general would be at certain great amount?

At the end of the day, how we can identify a genuine seller selling authentic goods?
Most of the sellers there are businesses, not strangers or individuals. They have external reviews and legit websites that can be verified. I wouldn’t buy from a private individual on chrono.

I wouldn’t trust chrono for much of anything. From what I know, they aren’t doing all that well. I’d trust an established seller with a good rep before I would trust their escrow process.
HHIslander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13 December 2020, 01:18 AM   #17
Calatrava r
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: United States
Watch: Rolex and Patek
Posts: 11,427
Its fine but buy the seller is always the best advice.
Calatrava r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13 December 2020, 03:38 AM   #18
CMTBRIAN
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: HK
Posts: 9
Thanks all for your sharing and the tips.

Will do some more homework. Cheers.
CMTBRIAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13 December 2020, 04:46 AM   #19
joli160
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
joli160's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: NL
Watch: Yachtmaster
Posts: 14,762
Go to the well known trusted sellers in the boutique section on TRF.

Forget the rest and avoid getting burned.
__________________
Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.
joli160 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 13 December 2020, 05:29 AM   #20
Laszlo
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
Laszlo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: San Francisco, CA
Watch: Date & No Date
Posts: 10,868
Chrono24 is fine. Reach out to Vadim, he owns WRIST AFICIONADO. He’ll find you anything and he’s an absolutely great guy.
__________________
"You might as well question why we breathe. If we stop breathing, we'll die. If we stop fighting our enemies, the world will die."

Paul Henreid as Victor Laszlo in Casablanca
Laszlo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14 December 2020, 01:31 AM   #21
Watchflair
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
Watchflair's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Real Name: Jim
Location: Westchester NY
Watch: Love em all
Posts: 5,920
I’ve purchased from there - buy the seller first - know who you are buying from - flawless transactions with following that logic.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Remember what matters. Value everyday
Watchflair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14 December 2020, 04:25 PM   #22
rolehex
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
rolehex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
Posts: 1,445
Purchased a couple on there and I would only recommend it through the escrow service.
rolehex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15 December 2020, 11:46 AM   #23
Dan417
"TRF" Member
 
Dan417's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Real Name: Dan
Location: Near Disneyland
Watch: 126710 BLNR Oyster
Posts: 383
Since the implementation of fees/sales tax I’ve stopped purchasing from Chrono24. Shamefully, I admit, I have made purchases from members of Chrono24 off the website with positive results.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________

2FA secured

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
Dan417 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15 December 2020, 11:59 AM   #24
Pongster
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Marikina
Posts: 2,561
Quote:
Originally Posted by CMTBRIAN View Post
Thanks all for your quick comments which are very useful indeed.

If a seller has an overall 4.8 out of 5 among its > 300 ratings (some outliners that dragged down its overall ratings actually), do you consider the stars and number of ratings are sufficient to jump to the conclusion that he can be trusted?

His photos seem "actual" as far as the post appears that they are (not stock nor fuzzy photos).
Which particular seller are you looking at?
Pongster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15 December 2020, 01:31 PM   #25
ndrs63
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,102
I once bought a Panerai pam 111 from a reputable seller. Was naive at the time, as I fell for the “no box, papers” trap. Turned out to be fake. Before the watch arrived, I made sure I knew how to inspect it, and consulted WUS members who are experts. Sure enough, it was a fake. Too bad, as the price was great (too good).
You are in luck with Chrono24 as you have 30 days to inspect the watch and return it if any problems. But you have to be very well informed, as after 30 days you’re on your own.
And don’t always believe the “buy the seller” saying.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
ndrs63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2020, 04:04 AM   #26
Laszlo
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
Laszlo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: San Francisco, CA
Watch: Date & No Date
Posts: 10,868
You can still find dealers in some states that won’t charge you sales tax, such as Georgia. You just need to ask. Nevada is the same. I buy my photo equipment from Leica Vegas, no sales tax.
__________________
"You might as well question why we breathe. If we stop breathing, we'll die. If we stop fighting our enemies, the world will die."

Paul Henreid as Victor Laszlo in Casablanca
Laszlo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2020, 07:10 AM   #27
Lagetickers
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: USA
Posts: 80
Yes you can make a purchase, but try to contact a well known seller the result will be a positive one, hopefully.....all the best.
Lagetickers is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

OCWatches

Wrist Aficionado

My Watch LLC

WatchesOff5th

DavidSW Watches

Takuya Watches


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.