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Old 8 January 2021, 06:33 PM   #1
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Vacheron Contantin- Undervalued

If i may ask, why are Vacheron Constantin watches being so much undervalued or not as popular as Audemar Piguet and Patek Phillipe watches when I've heard from a lot of watch people that they are just as good and from a few watch people, even a bit better, especiallly for the price?
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Old 8 January 2021, 07:04 PM   #2
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The blue dial Overseas is also benefitting from the same hype but to a lesser degree. The white and black dial Overseas can still be bought at a discount to retail and is a great bargain. However, reality is most ppl buy watches to impress others so the entire hype trend creates either a virtuous cycle (ie RO and Nautilus) or vicious cycle (ie Overseas)

If you can get past the hype the Overseas is good value. Personally, I don’t like them because they wear large like the RO and VC doesn’t offer any Overseas below 41mm. They also don’t have hacking seconds which bothers me and I personally much prefer the RO bracelet, dial, and finishing vs Overseas.


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Old 8 January 2021, 07:51 PM   #3
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Too large for me. They should do a 39mm overseas and more people will bite. The open worked PC is drop dead gorgeous though.
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Old 8 January 2021, 09:51 PM   #4
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Too large for me. They should do a 39mm overseas and more people will bite. The open worked PC is drop dead gorgeous though.
They should bring back the white gold ultra thin at 40mm... preferably in SS. that is a real stunner.

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Old 8 January 2021, 10:58 PM   #5
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They should bring back the white gold ultra thin at 40mm... preferably in SS. that is a real stunner.

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One can hope that they discontinued it to make room to bring back the 222.
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Old 8 January 2021, 11:05 PM   #6
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I do like VC and my AD was a dealer at one time but had to choose between VC and PP and we know where that went. Without access to the watches and limited in person pre-owned opportunities I am just not going to go down that road.
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Old 8 January 2021, 11:13 PM   #7
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I've tried on the VC overseas and I have smaller size wrists. I would say that the VC wears broad but not quite as big as a comparable RO 15500/15400. I think with the strap changing it adds even more versatility and that blue is gorgeous! I would absolutely pull the trigger on one in the future if opportunity arises!
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Old 9 January 2021, 12:24 AM   #8
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Overseas is quiet large at 41M I personally prefer the RO as you can also buy the 15450.

If VC offered a 38/39 I would seriously consider it. The quick strap change system is great plus ADs would through in rubber and leather straps.

I am huge fan of the patrimony.
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Old 9 January 2021, 12:42 AM   #9
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Overseas is quiet large at 41M I personally prefer the RO as you can also buy the 15450.

If VC offered a 38/39 I would seriously consider it. The quick strap change system is great plus ADs would through in rubber and leather straps.

I am huge fan of the patrimony.
VC offers a 37mm Overeas which is quite nice. https://www.vacheron-constantin.com/...100a-b170.html
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Old 9 January 2021, 01:17 AM   #10
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I think the OVERSEAS is a great watch and its a great value!!! I really like more the previous generation 49150 than the current one, for some reason I just prefer the dial.
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Old 9 January 2021, 02:24 AM   #11
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and here i am gearing up for the 2nd 47040 at 42mm.....
just wish it had stick markers
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Old 9 January 2021, 04:10 AM   #12
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The overseas are amazing watches and great value. They are starting to go up in value on the secondary market and may be as hot as ap in the future. Get one while u can
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Old 9 January 2021, 06:46 AM   #13
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I have sold this barely worn, full set 18 months ago for less than $15k.



Same movement like Patek, Guilloche dial - if it had Patek on the dial....

Yes, many VC are massively undervalued
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Old 9 January 2021, 08:02 AM   #14
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I think that the complication, detail, and access makes VC a winner
If your not a trader and use your watches for a lifetime, VC is a clear winner!
Just look at the heritage and the value in the offerings.
just my two cents
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Old 9 January 2021, 08:07 AM   #15
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I have sold this barely worn, full set 18 months ago for less than $15k.



Same movement like Patek, Guilloche dial - if it had Patek on the dial....

Yes, many VC are massively undervalued
I picked up this model about a 6 months ago, such a beautiful watch with a great movement
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Old 9 January 2021, 08:23 AM   #16
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Too large for me. They should do a 39mm overseas and more people will bite. The open worked PC is drop dead gorgeous though.
Agreed. And as much as I like the blue dial (and I've tried it on inperson, it's stunning) I'd prefer black. 39mm would be perfect.
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Old 9 January 2021, 10:02 AM   #17
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It is a question of proportion: size and thickness.
I hope they will reissue a 222 one day.
Not really similar to an Overseas.
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Old 9 January 2021, 10:34 AM   #18
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VC is very well known and respected to watch enthusiasts and doesn’t get the hype it deserves. Not necessarily a bad thing for watch enthusiasts :) Nobody wants to wait years and years for a sports watch, glad the Overseas is available for folks who want it.
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Old 9 January 2021, 08:17 PM   #19
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Vacheron Contantin- Undervalued

I honestly think the new OS wears smaller than 41mm suggests. And it’s fairly thin and light. I know blue is the obvious choice but the silver is very understated and really nice looking in person.



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Old 9 January 2021, 08:44 PM   #20
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I honestly think the new OS wears smaller than 41mm suggests. And it’s fairly thin and light. I know blue is the obvious choice but the silver is very understated and really nice looking in person.


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Great shots, but it all depends on your perspective...

Coming from a Sea-Dweller or something similar the Overseas will wear smaller, thin and light. A car will feel light and nimble after owning a truck. LOL... Coming from a 5711 or a 15202 at just above 8mm the Overseas is one chunky watch at 11mm.
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Old 9 January 2021, 10:07 PM   #21
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My personal opinion is that they're lacking this one flagship model everyone is battling for (their Daytona, Nautilus, Royal Oak).

The OS is, to me, a watch with a dated design that isn't ageing well (especially the hands, indices, and bezel).
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Old 9 January 2021, 10:25 PM   #22
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I found the 41 Overseas to wear exactly the same as the 41 RO
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Old 9 January 2021, 11:12 PM   #23
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Just picked up an Overseas 4500v black dial. Not much more I could ask for in a watch. Beautiful hand finishing, Geneva Seal, thin, not too flashy with polish (feels much less flashy than a DJ 41 to me), quick change straps, beautiful gloss black dial, dress and sport dual threat.

And that’s just the watch itself, not even mentioning the brand and its heritage. I feel like I scored big time with this one. And even apart from all the attributes and value, I just love the way it looks on wrist. Will post photos if I can figure out how to do so.
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Old 9 January 2021, 11:25 PM   #24
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the wrist span if you include the integrated end links is about 3mm shorter on the VC than the RO 15500/15400
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Old 10 January 2021, 06:21 AM   #25
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the brand is and thus the watches are. but the overseas line is incredible.
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Old 10 January 2021, 06:50 AM   #26
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The OS is a great watch. It gets the most wrist time in my collection. The strap system makes it very versatile. I think the finishing is superb and on par with AP or PP. It's definitely understated versus and AP or Rolex and that comes in handy.
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Old 10 January 2021, 07:41 AM   #27
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I ask myself everyday why vc is undervalued. The answer is... it’s not. They’re just not selling overseas for six figures like a nautilus is. Any pre owned overseas I see is around 20k.. the patrimony is easily on par with a callatrava... I love vacheron. The overseas wears too large on my wrist but otherwise I’d buy one.
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Old 10 January 2021, 09:23 PM   #28
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Vacheron exists so that watch aficionados will have the opportunity to buy a terrific watch at a fair price and, at the same time, express their individuality. Most people don't take advantage of this.
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Old 10 January 2021, 09:26 PM   #29
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I think the OVERSEAS is a great watch and its a great value!!! I really like more the previous generation 49150 than the current one, for some reason I just prefer the dial.
Agreed. By the way, that's a great collection you have.
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Old 10 January 2021, 09:49 PM   #30
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I know blue is the obvious choice but the silver is very understated and really nice looking in person.
Fantastic shots of the silver OS!
Makes me want one!
How comfortable is the bracelet?
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