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mcjp6 · 22 April 2009, 09:22 PM

Rolex Watch Co. on dial of vintage Tudor.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ROLEX-TUDOR-1...3A1|240%3A1318

idk01 · 22 April 2009, 10:17 PM

Hmmm fairly old one, still has Rolex and Tudor on the same dial, I have a feeling there are a few of the oldies that do have this, but I could be wrong.

Guys, Opionions?

onkyo · 22 April 2009, 11:35 PM

Guys, this one MAY be ok.....

Anyone else?

TimeToGo · 23 April 2009, 12:22 AM

Very interesting. I wonder what Stan will say on this one?!

The font looks different on both watches and there is a period after "Co." on the one listed on this post...

Here is another one:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=130294304663

tudorman8276 · 23 April 2009, 05:28 AM

...interesting on these 2 watches.

...I would like Springer to look at these before passing judgement. I sent John a request about this thread.

Stan.

springer · 23 April 2009, 01:04 PM

This is the second or third time I have seen one of these dials, which mimic the Rolex dials from the late 1930's through the 1940's. (They usually originate from Australia or somewhere nearby.) The circular minute marker and Arabic numbers perfectly mimic some of these older Rolex watches. The seller claims this watch is from the 1960's.

I believe this watch was the result of a re-dialer many years ago that attempted to tie the Tudor line of watches to their Rolex lineage. I believe that this dial is not a genuine Tudor dial produced by Tudor/Rolex. If it were genuine, there would be many more of these watches on the market for sale as it would be one very rare watch.

My opinion is prima facie. The dial appears to be re-dialed to appear vintage as a late 1930's - 1940's Rolex and contains Rolex Watch Co dial markings which is inconsistent with the thousands of other Tudor watches that have been manufactured since 1946/47. If anyone has one of these watches, feel free to contact me and I'll have it examined by the RSC in Dallas.

idk01 · 23 April 2009, 04:38 PM

John,

Thats excellent info to know

Cheers,

Dave.

Terry Newton · 24 April 2009, 01:21 PM

VINTAGEATTEMPT!

Terry Newton

tudorman8276 · 24 April 2009, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by springer

This is the second or third time I have seen one of these dials, which mimic the Rolex dials from the late 1930's through the 1940's. (They usually originate from Australia or somewhere nearby.) The circular minute marker and Arabic numbers perfectly mimic some of these older Rolex watches. The seller claims this watch is from the 1960's.

I believe this watch was the result of a re-dialer many years ago that attempted to tie the Tudor line of watches to their Rolex lineage. I believe that this dial is not a genuine Tudor dial produced by Tudor/Rolex. If it were genuine, there would be many more of these watches on the market for sale as it would be one very rare watch.

My opinion is prima facie. The dial appears to be re-dialed to appear vintage as a late 1930's - 1940's Rolex and contains Rolex Watch Co dial markings which is inconsistent with the thousands of other Tudor watches that have been manufactured since 1946/47. If anyone has one of these watches, feel free to contact me and I'll have it examined by the RSC in Dallas.

...a Tudor is a Tudor....nothing more. Yes, the earlier Tudor CASES were made by Rolex, as evidenced by the appropriate stampings on the case back.

...NOT the dials.

Stan.

idk01 · 25 April 2009, 02:16 AM

Rouder is Powder

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22 April 2009, 09:22 PM	#1
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	Is this a rouder?? Rolex Watch Co. on dial of vintage Tudor. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ROLEX-TUDOR-1...3A1\|240%3A1318

22 April 2009, 10:17 PM	#2
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Hmmm fairly old one, still has Rolex and Tudor on the same dial, I have a feeling there are a few of the oldies that do have this, but I could be wrong. Guys, Opionions? __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

23 April 2009, 05:28 AM	#5
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	...mmmm... ...interesting on these 2 watches. ...I would like Springer to look at these before passing judgement. I sent John a request about this thread. Stan.

23 April 2009, 01:04 PM	#6
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	This is the second or third time I have seen one of these dials, which mimic the Rolex dials from the late 1930's through the 1940's. (They usually originate from Australia or somewhere nearby.) The circular minute marker and Arabic numbers perfectly mimic some of these older Rolex watches. The seller claims this watch is from the 1960's. I believe this watch was the result of a re-dialer many years ago that attempted to tie the Tudor line of watches to their Rolex lineage. I believe that this dial is not a genuine Tudor dial produced by Tudor/Rolex. If it were genuine, there would be many more of these watches on the market for sale as it would be one very rare watch. My opinion is prima facie. The dial appears to be re-dialed to appear vintage as a late 1930's - 1940's Rolex and contains Rolex Watch Co dial markings which is inconsistent with the thousands of other Tudor watches that have been manufactured since 1946/47. If anyone has one of these watches, feel free to contact me and I'll have it examined by the RSC in Dallas. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

23 April 2009, 04:38 PM	#7
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	John, Thats excellent info to know Cheers, Dave. __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

22 April 2009, 11:35 PM	#3
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	Guys, this one MAY be ok..... Anyone else?

23 April 2009, 12:22 AM	#4
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	Very interesting. I wonder what Stan will say on this one?! The font looks different on both watches and there is a period after "Co." on the one listed on this post... Here is another one: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=130294304663

24 April 2009, 01:21 PM	#8
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	VINTAGEATTEMPT! Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

25 April 2009, 02:16 AM	#10
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Rouder is Powder This listing (170322965939) has been removed or is no longer available __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

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