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Old 22 May 2021, 02:41 AM   #1
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Nonsense.

There are quite a few knowledgeable people on this board who prefer the Submariner to the other Rolex divers.

I'm not knocking the Sea Dweller or the Deep Sea, but unless you need one for saturation diving, and almost no one does these days, it's just that the Submariner for most folks is a robust, masculine, and practical watch that is better suited to many people's needs.

Now, if your criteria are purely about depth ratings and helium escape valves, then you're empirically correct.

For a lot of people, it boils down to style, comfort, practicality, and value and that is where the Subs dominate.
I 100% agree with you Grady. I’ve owned them all and all at the same time.

Absolutely nothing against the SD43 or Deepsea, but in terms what I value most in a watch the Submariner is what I prefer and still own.
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Old 22 May 2021, 04:31 PM   #2
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Nonsense.

There are quite a few knowledgeable people on this board who prefer the Submariner to the other Rolex divers.

I'm not knocking the Sea Dweller or the Deep Sea, but unless you need one for saturation diving, and almost no one does these days, it's just that the Submariner for most folks is a robust, masculine, and practical watch that is better suited to many people's needs.

Now, if your criteria are purely about depth ratings and helium escape valves, then you're empirically correct.

For a lot of people, it boils down to style, comfort, practicality, and value and that is where the Subs dominate.
The Sub is a legend,no denying that fact.But the best diver?
Rolex do make the dweller for a reason.It is a tougher watch,
its not just about depth.I was issued with a military sub,so i do
know what i am talking about,unlike many on here.
But like many have said,the Sub gets the job done.
Lets face it,many brands make great back up dive watches today,
and Rolex subs are no where near to being the most popular or the
best. How many divers do you think use a watch in the subs price
class,as a back up dive watch today?
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Old 23 May 2021, 11:47 PM   #3
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The Sub is a legend,no denying that fact.But the best diver?
Rolex do make the dweller for a reason.It is a tougher watch,
its not just about depth.I was issued with a military sub,so i do
know what i am talking about,unlike many on here.
But like many have said,the Sub gets the job done.
Lets face it,many brands make great back up dive watches today,
and Rolex subs are no where near to being the most popular or the
best. How many divers do you think use a watch in the subs price
class,as a back up dive watch today?
PS.When you mention value,i hope you are joking.
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Old 22 May 2021, 01:44 AM   #4
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The dweller beats any sub hands down as a dive watch.Only people
who do no know much about watches would rate a sub better.

I personally find the SD bezel a little to ‘busy’ for me with all the minute markers on it.

Personal preference.

Have been offered the SD on a number of occasions and IMO doesn’t supersede the Sub in any shape or form so have always declined.


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Old 22 May 2021, 02:36 AM   #5
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The dweller beats any sub hands down as a dive watch.
The SD only begins to beat the Sub at 1,000 feet, otherwise nope.


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Only people who do no know much about watches would rate a sub better.
If by 'rate' you mean depth rating, then yep. Otherwise, nope.
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Old 22 May 2021, 08:13 AM   #6
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Old 22 May 2021, 08:21 AM   #7
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I must have mis-read the original post…

I read “king” of divers… not the most iconic or best value or whatever…

King, to me in this case, is the most technical diver watch that can reach the depth others cannot.

So without a doubt, it would be Omega ultra deep pro.

If it has to be Rolex, it would be the seadweller deepsea.

Sub is a wonderful and iconic watch.. but it’s only king of being the most popular diver imo.

Btw, I own a sub so not hatin. Lol
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Old 22 May 2021, 08:48 AM   #8
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I must have mis-read the original post…

I read “king” of divers… not the most iconic or best value or whatever…

King, to me in this case, is the most technical diver watch that can reach the depth others cannot.

So without a doubt, it would be Omega ultra deep pro.

If it has to be Rolex, it would be the seadweller deepsea.

Sub is a wonderful and iconic watch.. but it’s only king of being the most popular diver imo.

Btw, I own a sub so not hatin. Lol

Oh no, you mentioned Omega which I could make some very good arguments from their dive line. “King” to many is the most popular but one could also argue if McDonalds makes the best hamburger of all times because they sold more of those as well.
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Old 22 May 2021, 06:13 PM   #9
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Old 22 May 2021, 09:42 PM   #10
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Sub is perhaps the most popular diver, but that means it is not a king. A king can't be such common. The king of Rolex divers is not doubt the DSSD.
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Old 22 May 2021, 10:37 PM   #11
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Some of you are over thinking and taking it too literally.

Everyone knows that some dive watches can dive deeper, some dive watches are more affordable for divers, etc.

Sub is the overall king in the diver class of watches. Period.


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Old 23 May 2021, 10:41 PM   #12
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Some of you are over thinking and taking it too literally.

Everyone knows that some dive watches can dive deeper, some dive watches are more affordable for divers, etc.

Sub is the overall king in the diver class of watches. Period.


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Old 23 May 2021, 12:58 AM   #13
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I like older Submariners but the new ones look shiny, bulky and unfinished (just my opinion) For a time I had the 300m Omega Bond Style with sword hands and printed black dial that came before the co-ax movement was introduced. It was a fine watch but not so nice or comfortable as my 5513 but it looked better than any of the new overweight Submariners/Seadwellers. If I were shopping now I'd probably go for the Tudor, not just because its better value but has a more sensible design and feel.
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Old 24 May 2021, 12:55 AM   #14
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I like older Submariners but the new ones look shiny, bulky and unfinished (just my opinion) For a time I had the 300m Omega Bond Style with sword hands and printed black dial that came before the co-ax movement was introduced. It was a fine watch but not so nice or comfortable as my 5513 but it looked better than any of the new overweight Submariners/Seadwellers. If I were shopping now I'd probably go for the Tudor, not just because its better value but has a more sensible design and feel.
This is too smart of a post for this forum. Let’s get back to steering wheel and watches posts.
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Old 23 May 2021, 11:57 PM   #15
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It’s like this, if I had any other dive watch other than a sub, technically better or not, more expensive or less, etc, I would always look at it and think, man it’s not a sub. There are more that think like me than not, thus the sub popularity. I don’t know what if anything can change this. Perception and brand strength is strong with this one.
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Old 24 May 2021, 12:52 AM   #16
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“King” may not be the best word to describe it, but let’s just say it is an iconic reference. There’s no doubt it holds a special place of significance in the world of wrist watch history.
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