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Old 2 August 2021, 01:41 AM   #31
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Simply for an alternative perspective, Harry.

Your other point is actually quite insightful. Thanks for sharing
Understood. And thank you.
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Old 2 August 2021, 02:26 AM   #32
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There is another aspect to this, in that a fist full of watches which have a good used value, such as hot Rolex models, or vintage Rolex watches which if in good condition, are going to be worth multiples of the original MSRP, are easy to pocket and walk away with. They can then be turned into cash, kept if they hold any sentimental value (of if they just want a good watch), or distributed among other family members, such as grandchildren.

Of course, I am at pains to point out that I will encourage my children/grandchildren to pay every last penny of whatever inertance tax they owe from my and my wife's estate. I haven't done so yet but I definitely will.

I had not thought about that. The fact that Rolex holds and continue to rise in value make it more likely it will be sold. The reality is watches like a seiko, hamilton, etc at that price point may be more likely to be actually kept and worn by family members for sentimental purposes than Rolex which can pay a semester or years tuition.


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Old 2 August 2021, 03:48 AM   #33
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Of the three you presented I would take YM 126621. It's the newest watch of the bunch. The SUB LV is a watch that puzzles me with authenticity issues, and if it is the genuine item, should it be worn or preserved? I would take a modern DD40, versus older DD36, with all the improvements to clasp bracelet and movement of the new version. The only change in this selection is I would prefer the intense black dial over the chocolate dial for the YM. My.02.
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Old 2 August 2021, 04:48 AM   #34
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Of the three you presented I would take YM 126621. It's the newest watch of the bunch. The SUB LV is a watch that puzzles me with authenticity issues, and if it is the genuine item, should it be worn or preserved? I would take a modern DD40, versus older DD36, with all the improvements to clasp bracelet and movement of the new version. The only change in this selection is I would prefer the intense black dial over the chocolate dial for the YM. My.02.
Really interesting take, thank you. This is the type of response I was looking for!
LV for sure there are legitimacy concerns.
DD36 is a nostalgic type of purchase but I think I've ruled it out for the foreseeable future. I know there are better options
Heavily leaning into the YM. I like both the chocolate and the black dial.
What makes the black dial the one for you out of interest?
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Old 2 August 2021, 04:51 AM   #35
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I had not thought about that. The fact that Rolex holds and continue to rise in value make it more likely it will be sold. The reality is watches like a seiko, hamilton, etc at that price point may be more likely to be actually kept and worn by family members for sentimental purposes than Rolex which can pay a semester or years tuition.


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Wouldn't be giving my son one of my watches while he's still on college. Things like that need to be earned in my opinion so the value is appreciated.

Who knows, in a few decades maybe there'll be zero interest in mechanical watches and collections maybe worth nothing?!
Alternatively, if there's no interest in them from my son/the family I may keep 1/2 and sell the rest...who knows!
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Old 2 August 2021, 04:55 AM   #36
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A later DD 18238 or the Kermit.
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Old 2 August 2021, 05:21 AM   #38
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I feel the same way you do about the BLNR. There are few of us.

I’d get the YM. I’m not really a TT fan but that’s one of the few I’d buy. I saw one in the wild once and it looked great. That chocolate dial is terrific.
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Old 2 August 2021, 07:58 AM   #39
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Wouldn't be giving my son one of my watches while he's still on college. Things like that need to be earned in my opinion so the value is appreciated.

Who knows, in a few decades maybe there'll be zero interest in mechanical watches and collections maybe worth nothing?!
Alternatively, if there's no interest in them from my son/the family I may keep 1/2 and sell the rest...who knows!

For what it’s worth, my 16610 was gifted to me my my now deceased mother for the Christmas of 1998, so that put me in my very early 20’s and only 1/2 through undergrad at the time. That watch was and has been in my wrist more days than not since then including weddings, multiple graduations, births of family members, my sons, and sadly some funerals, and even at her funeral. It’s a watch I thoroughly appreciated and when she would see me seemingly pamper the watch, would scold me saying it’s just a watch and meant to be worn and I am proud to say I have worn it.

Now, the caveat being that she knew full well I was a watch person and knew that I took care of my things. Hell, I still have my RC 10 and Blackfoot remote control cars from the late 80’s still in working order and enjoyed by my sons to this day.


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Old 2 August 2021, 11:28 AM   #40
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For what it’s worth, my 16610 was gifted to me my my now deceased mother for the Christmas of 1998, so that put me in my very early 20’s and only 1/2 through undergrad at the time. That watch was and has been in my wrist more days than not since then including weddings, multiple graduations, births of family members, my sons, and sadly some funerals, and even at her funeral. It’s a watch I thoroughly appreciated and when she would see me seemingly pamper the watch, would scold me saying it’s just a watch and meant to be worn and I am proud to say I have worn it.

Now, the caveat being that she knew full well I was a watch person and knew that I took care of my things. Hell, I still have my RC 10 and Blackfoot remote control cars from the late 80’s still in working order and enjoyed by my sons to this day.


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Those RC batteries are still holding? :D
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Old 2 August 2021, 11:30 AM   #41
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Wouldn't be giving my son one of my watches while he's still on college. Things like that need to be earned in my opinion so the value is appreciated.

Who knows, in a few decades maybe there'll be zero interest in mechanical watches and collections maybe worth nothing?!
Alternatively, if there's no interest in them from my son/the family I may keep 1/2 and sell the rest...who knows!
There’s always an interest, even among a very small group of people. People collect everything. I’m sure you can find a collector of sand from different beaches with a few google searches
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Old 2 August 2021, 11:31 AM   #42
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This business about passing on the watches to your son is likely justification to buy more and more. Nothing wrong with that per se. But the folks who amass a larger collection of multiple watches and get what 8 weeks of wear in a given year. These are not watches that collect any real meaning and are simply objects. As in I don’t know, mom/dad always had a new watch on or a different watch all the time. The watches that end up being heirlooms are the watches that are worn day in and day out in all conditions. The watches that ones son/daughter see their parent wearing tinkering in the garden, playing in the yard, and on notable family events. Those are the watches that become associated with memories and this meaning. That’s how memories work, by association. When our collections get larger and larger we just become curators of stuff and the stuff gets lumped into what ever other trinkets we have laying around, just objects and stuff. What makes objects meaningful are what they come to represent.
Wow, great post. Makes you stop and reflect !
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Old 2 August 2021, 05:53 PM   #43
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For what it’s worth, my 16610 was gifted to me my my now deceased mother for the Christmas of 1998, so that put me in my very early 20’s and only 1/2 through undergrad at the time. That watch was and has been in my wrist more days than not since then including weddings, multiple graduations, births of family members, my sons, and sadly some funerals, and even at her funeral. It’s a watch I thoroughly appreciated and when she would see me seemingly pamper the watch, would scold me saying it’s just a watch and meant to be worn and I am proud to say I have worn it.

Now, the caveat being that she knew full well I was a watch person and knew that I took care of my things. Hell, I still have my RC 10 and Blackfoot remote control cars from the late 80’s still in working order and enjoyed by my sons to this day.


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Love to hear this. This is what a watch, and life, is all about.
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Old 2 August 2021, 05:53 PM   #44
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I feel the same way you do about the BLNR. There are few of us.

I’d get the YM. I’m not really a TT fan but that’s one of the few I’d buy. I saw one in the wild once and it looked great. That chocolate dial is terrific.
You have impeccable taste!
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Old 2 August 2021, 06:04 PM   #45
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You need a Chronograph in the collection.

A Kermit will compromise your enjoyment of your 114060, a DD will conflict with the DJ and Portuguese and whilst the YM would bring a bit of bling to the collection and it could be used as your dressier watch it is still very much Sub like in appearance.

So you go got the one watch that you haven't got, a Chronograph. Whether you go Rolex or another brand is up to you but it would diversify and add to the collection. The new Speedmaster is a damn good watch and with Metas Certification.
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Old 3 August 2021, 04:26 AM   #46
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Of those choices, I would get the YM. (but if I had my choice, I would get the "ordinary" GMT or Sub!!)
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YM for me without a doubt. Modern, comfy, sporty and with killer looks. It's the perfect dressy sports watch. The vintage DD is a risky proposition and has a Sopranos vibe about it, the Sub LV is a lot less versatile and has a subpar bracelet and clasp compared to 6 digits models.
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You need a Chronograph in the collection.

A Kermit will compromise your enjoyment of your 114060, a DD will conflict with the DJ and Portuguese and whilst the YM would bring a bit of bling to the collection and it could be used as your dressier watch it is still very much Sub like in appearance.

So you go got the one watch that you haven't got, a Chronograph. Whether you go Rolex or another brand is up to you but it would diversify and add to the collection. The new Speedmaster is a damn good watch and with Metas Certification.
Thanks, Martin. Some really good points.
You're right about the LV. It would definitely compromise my current Sub...which is the watch that got me into watches in the first place (all the Connery Bondfans know what I mean). Now that I think about it the LV might be like having a 911 - great for a few thousand miles but then you get fed up coz you can't really use it anywhere. ..at least in my case - but that's a post for another forum ;)

I would tend to disagree on the YM, it's dressy but I wouldn't reserve it as my dress watch. I would hope it would get plenty of weekend use, and more with WFH these days.

The Chrono is a great shout. It's not for this time around but when I'm ready to move one of my watches on and make space for a chrono I will certainly look to the Speedmaster.
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YM for me without a doubt. Modern, comfy, sporty and with killer looks. It's the perfect dressy sports watch. The vintage DD is a risky proposition and has a Sopranos vibe about it, the Sub LV is a lot less versatile and has a subpar bracelet and clasp compared to 6 digits models.
I've been wondering why I've been eyeing up a vintage DD and now I know!!!
I'm rewatching the Sopranos and have had his gold dd in my face 2/3 nights a week for the past few months! Now it all makes sense!!
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If it were me, yellow gold day date... that's my pick.
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Old 3 August 2021, 06:00 AM   #51
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If you love them all equally and would be equally happy with any of them, start with the one that is either the fastest/easiest to obtain or has the best acquisition price.

After that, a number of possibilities present. But you have to start somewhere. It might be that one is enough. It might be that you don't like something as much as you thought, in which case you have two more candidates to flip it for. Or maybe you'll end up with all of them.

The only question mark is why the need to ask a bunch of strangers? Not a criticism, just a quick reality check. I wouldn't be asking the forum what they think I should do. I would be telling them what I had just done. But I suppose we're all different.

Because...it's a Forum, and that's one of its many purposes?
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