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JRell · 5 September 2021, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by doboy007

Darker blue on new one? They have the same bezels.

Maybe it is the blue dial that makes is look lighter. I think a sunburst dial would be great like the bluesy.

brandrea · 5 September 2021, 10:43 AM

Both are equal in my eyes

IR201 · 5 September 2021, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JRell

Maybe it is the blue dial that makes is look lighter. I think a sunburst dial would be great like the bluesy.

How about a flat green sub?

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JRell · 5 September 2021, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by IR201

How about a flat green sub?

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Oh boy now you’re talking, would be amazing. That actually makes sense. Went from black to sunburst green back to black. Next up flat green…might be onto something!

donas · 5 September 2021, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 1st amg

The smurf all the way. Just such a distinctive and no mistake what it is watch. Just love the colors, I have had mine for about 5 years and I don’t think I would ever part ways with it

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Agreed! Don't get rid of it, you will not be happy with yourself! I traded mine a few years ago and really regret it.

samson66 · 5 September 2021, 10:41 PM

Really wish they had gone with a blue dial on the new one. I like the blue/black but not enough to spend that kind of money on it.

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1William · 5 September 2021, 10:43 PM

I prefer the blue dial.

nan7yo · 5 September 2021, 10:51 PM

I prefer the blue dial

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travisb · 5 September 2021, 10:57 PM

Tough to pick between the two but I'd choose the new 41.

brandrea · 5 September 2021, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 1st amg

The smurf all the way. Just such a distinctive and no mistake what it is watch. Just love the colors, I have had mine for about 5 years and I don’t think I would ever part ways with it

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It really is a stunning watch in person.

I rode the train for Rome to Firenze and sat across from a guy wearing one. He was a younger Italian man, (I assume) dressed to the nines. He was working on his lap top so I had a perfect view of the watch for the entire trip

What struck me most was just how “not” blue it looked. I mean you could tell it was blue but it looks nothing like the bright flat blue in most pictures. Much more subtle than that.

Goin2drt · 5 September 2021, 11:32 PM

Cool pic but doesn't represent anything what the 116619LB looks like in real life.

Apheaven · 5 September 2021, 11:49 PM

Smurf…nothing else like it by Rolex that comes to mind and it’s a collectible piece (relatively speaking). Although it was produced in 2008 for 12 years , the production was low (by Rolex standards) as the submariner crowd balked at the pricing and use of white gold for a ‘tool watch’ and took their money a different direction. Such a controversial piece at the time….anyways that’s my long answer as I drink my coffee on this Sunday morning with my feet up, dog laying by my side and a warm fire going while responding to questions on watches…my passion. Have fun!

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inadeje · 6 September 2021, 02:32 AM

I think that the main dilemma is that a snap on blue bezel that technically converts any SS sub into a WG pretender is the obvious downfall of the newer version. The smurf is infinitely more difficult to copy.

rcambrid · 6 September 2021, 02:43 AM

Prefer the new case but the old dial…

1st amg · 6 September 2021, 03:05 AM

Here are some more pics I just snapped in different lighting conditions.

I just love the different looks in gives me due to lighting.

I have seen this watch twice before on someone else in my travels, and though I love this watch, when I saw it on someone else, I knew it was a keeper. It is so different and imposing because of its unique colors.

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Robf52 · 6 September 2021, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jrsanchez

i prefer the black dial

+1.

macrowatch · 6 September 2021, 07:29 AM

Black is the new blue...or is it the other way around?

macrowatch · 6 September 2021, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by inadeje

I think that the main dilemma is that a snap on blue bezel that technically converts any SS sub into a WG pretender is the obvious downfall of the newer version. The smurf is infinitely more difficult to copy.

In that sense I think AP RO is naturally positioned for anti counter fitting measures. So many details at each step to have to copy. Not worth it when can just counter fit 5711 or Rolex!

steve099 · 6 September 2021, 01:37 PM

Smurf all day every day and by a mile. I will never part with mine, it will go to my nephew when I move on from this life.

garyk · 6 September 2021, 10:08 PM

I definitely prefer the larger lugs. The case somehow has more presence imo. Beautiful watches in any case!!

www777 · 6 September 2021, 10:37 PM

I had the smurf and I’m considering getting the new one. Is the case of the 41 noticeably larger? Is the bracelet the same or also larger?

5 September 2021, 11:49 PM	#42
Apheaven "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: SF Posts: 589	WG Sub: side-by-side pic of new vs old Smurf…nothing else like it by Rolex that comes to mind and it’s a collectible piece (relatively speaking). Although it was produced in 2008 for 12 years , the production was low (by Rolex standards) as the submariner crowd balked at the pricing and use of white gold for a ‘tool watch’ and took their money a different direction. Such a controversial piece at the time….anyways that’s my long answer as I drink my coffee on this Sunday morning with my feet up, dog laying by my side and a warm fire going while responding to questions on watches…my passion. Have fun! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

6 September 2021, 02:32 AM	#43
inadeje 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Miami Watch: me lose count. Posts: 5,907	I think that the main dilemma is that a snap on blue bezel that technically converts any SS sub into a WG pretender is the obvious downfall of the newer version. The smurf is infinitely more difficult to copy. __________________ ♛ 218206 Roman ♛ 116689 ♛ 126710BLRO ♛ 16520 white ♛ 16523 white ♛ 16610 ♛ 5513 Birth Year - ✠ Patek Philippe 5980/1R-001 - AP 26331ST Panda - Panerai Bronzo 671 & 111, Ω Speedmaster 1957 Broad Arrow, Cartier Santos XL - Montblanc TimeWalker Chrono 41

6 September 2021, 10:08 PM	#50
garyk 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Gary Location: USA Watch: Daytona Posts: 11,749	I definitely prefer the larger lugs. The case somehow has more presence imo. Beautiful watches in any case!! __________________

5 September 2021, 10:43 AM	#32
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 78,097	Both are equal in my eyes

5 September 2021, 10:41 PM	#36
samson66 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Mike Location: Downy Ocean Hon Watch: my money leaving! Posts: 13,792	Really wish they had gone with a blue dial on the new one. I like the blue/black but not enough to spend that kind of money on it. Sent from my Galaxy S20 using Tapatalk

5 September 2021, 10:43 PM	#37
1William 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 47,776	I prefer the blue dial.

5 September 2021, 10:51 PM	#38
nan7yo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: APAC Posts: 1,033	I prefer the blue dial Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

5 September 2021, 10:57 PM	#39
travisb 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,489	Tough to pick between the two but I'd choose the new 41.

5 September 2021, 11:32 PM	#41
Goin2drt Banned Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,307	Cool pic but doesn't represent anything what the 116619LB looks like in real life.

6 September 2021, 02:43 AM	#44
rcambrid "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: USA Posts: 241	Prefer the new case but the old dial…

6 September 2021, 03:05 AM	#45
1st amg 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: nicholas Location: ottawa canada Watch: Rolex,AP,Panerai Posts: 10,409	Here are some more pics I just snapped in different lighting conditions. I just love the different looks in gives me due to lighting. I have seen this watch twice before on someone else in my travels, and though I love this watch, when I saw it on someone else, I knew it was a keeper. It is so different and imposing because of its unique colors. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

6 September 2021, 07:29 AM	#47
macrowatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: HK Posts: 4,366	Black is the new blue...or is it the other way around?

6 September 2021, 01:37 PM	#49
steve099 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Real Name: Steve Location: Australia Watch: 116619LB Posts: 564	Smurf all day every day and by a mile. I will never part with mine, it will go to my nephew when I move on from this life.

6 September 2021, 10:37 PM	#51
www777 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: At Home Posts: 1,285	I had the smurf and I’m considering getting the new one. Is the case of the 41 noticeably larger? Is the bracelet the same or also larger?

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