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Old 27 September 2021, 02:11 PM   #31
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Great looking watch...would love one myself. From what I've observed, the folks on this forum with this watch generally are owners with extremely established histories with ADs, some with more Rolexes than I have pairs of shoes. All signs suggest it is extremely hard to get and dealers prioritize them for situations that are most financially advantageous to them.

I don't like going into a project with the assumption of failure, but it is important to point out the that effort you put into this is probably not likely to yield the desired result for the foreseeable future.
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Old 27 September 2021, 02:14 PM   #32
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Beyond the Tiffany appeal for a woman, still trying to figure out why I man would want one...unless he was buying

for his wife or significant other...seen this one in the flesh and, for me, it's dainty looking...different strokes...
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Old 27 September 2021, 02:47 PM   #33
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Beyond the Tiffany appeal for a woman, still trying to figure out why I man would want one...unless he was buying

for his wife or significant other...seen this one in the flesh and, for me, it's dainty looking...different strokes...
You’re not the only one wondering. :)
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Old 27 September 2021, 03:10 PM   #34
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Hello all.

So, I have a modest watch collection compared to most here. 3 Rolex's, 1 Omega.

Bought all new, never paid retail for any of them.

I'm on a waiting list for the newish OP 41, with turqoise dial. Have a feeling could be waiting for years to obtain this watch WITHOUT paying more than retail. Which I won't.

I know, I know, if you want it bad enough, pony up the difference. I get it. Just not me.

So, in all seriousness, what might you recommend I do? Randomly call AD's in hopes a) they have it, and b) they will sell it to me? c) something else?

Any sage advice from anyone??

Seems many obtained are being flipped for a significant profit. All good. Not begrudging someone wanting to make some easy dough. I just happen to wear my watches. Like my Hulk, which I could make some serious coin on now. But I love it, and wear it.

Have payment instantly available.

Take care everyone!
I am in a similar situation, having bought 3 rolex and 1 hublot, currently waiting for a rg oysterflex daytona. When I asked is there any time estimation when can I get the piece, I was replied that a man with $200k have also been waiting for the same piece.
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Old 28 September 2021, 12:16 AM   #35
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Buy the cheapest OP41, I believe it's the silver dial, and ask the RSC to swap it for the blue dial.
The silver is the most beautiful dial IMHO, and I believe will be the most valued in the future. That said, this is not a bad Idea. Not sure though if any color is readily available at this point.
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Old 28 September 2021, 12:33 AM   #36
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Hey Chuck seems we joined here at the exact same time so I'm sure you know the state of play, I think the OP is a possibility but probably only if you can get in close with an AD and they do you a solid.
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Old 28 September 2021, 12:40 AM   #37
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Beyond the Tiffany appeal for a woman, still trying to figure out why I man would want one...unless he was buying

for his wife or significant other...seen this one in the flesh and, for me, it's dainty looking...different strokes...
I saw them all in one place when they were introduced last year. I’m man enough to wear the turquoise, but happen to like the red and yellow better.
I think even RolexSA underestimated the appeal the bold OP line would have and are still scrambling to balance demand.

To the original poster here, zero chance some random dealer has one of these laying around and will sell it to you.
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Old 28 September 2021, 12:51 AM   #38
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If you don’t have an existing relationship with an AD, i think your chances are 0 on that dial. Everyone wants it, and everyone has money to buy it right now. You might be on a list for years, but i wouldn’t expect a call ever. If you want it, it’s likely going to cost you 15-16k.


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Old 28 September 2021, 07:27 AM   #39
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If you don’t have an existing relationship with an AD, i think your chances are 0 on that dial. Everyone wants it, and everyone has money to buy it right now. You might be on a list for years, but i wouldn’t expect a call ever. If you want it, it’s likely going to cost you 15-16k.


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18k unfortunately.
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Old 28 September 2021, 08:16 AM   #40
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18k unfortunately.

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Old 29 September 2021, 08:04 PM   #41
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If there was a simple solution then there would be no Rolex shortage. Everyone's situation is different depending on location and the ADs they work with. The simplest advice is to keep trying ADs in your area and be proactive (without being annoying) in following up with them intermittently.
Took your advice. Visited the AD yesterday. Had a nice talk with the office administor. Actually brought in my 2 other watches. Like, see, I wear them.

We shall see....
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Old 29 September 2021, 09:07 PM   #42
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You’re not the only one wondering. :)
Some are more secure perhaps....
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Old 29 September 2021, 09:22 PM   #43
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You should not be okay with watches "being flipped for a significant profit."
It is not "okay."
I won't even get into "making easy dough."
Flipping cuts into the ability of the enthusiasts who REALLY want the watch <for wearing it> to get one.
And that is partially why you cannot get one. Good luck with your effort, though.

Like you, I would never pay the inflated "usurious" gray market prices. Let their kids go hungry if watches cannot be sold for a "reasonable" amount.

Someday those thousands of gray market watches will have to move.
You can't dictate the way the man thinks that's unfair. You never know the reason why someone would buy a watch and sell it for a profit, or for market price, or for less - I think it's none of yours and anyone's business. And you certainly can't blame grey dealers who are targeting customers who can pay the prices being asked. You either get with the program or forget about hard to get watches - plenty other brands that can be easily bought, with as good quality as Rolex, if not better
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Old 29 September 2021, 09:43 PM   #44
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If you really want the watch, you'll continue the hunt and that doesn't include getting scalped in the gray market.

Just keep trying and be polite and courteous in all your interactions.

If this seems to be too much of a hassle, find something else to do with your time.

You'll much happier in that case.
Good advice here ^^^
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Old 10 January 2022, 10:41 AM   #45
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Soooooooo, one listed here for THIRTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS.

Now, THIS is funny.
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Old 10 January 2022, 11:17 AM   #46
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Chuck, this model with the turquoise dial is the SS Daytona of 2022!
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Old 10 January 2022, 11:28 AM   #47
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I disagree with many comments, the grey market is for complete mugs, unless you're buying vintage or neo-vintage models. I live almost three hours from my AD and only go in 2-4 times per year and spend some time chatting and discussing what I'd really want and all things watch related. They know me now after years of doing this and I get offered at least one steel watch ever 12-18 months. I'd never pay the foolish premiums for modern watches in the grey market as there's simply no sense to it.
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Old 10 January 2022, 11:32 AM   #48
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Glad I am not waiting on one!
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Old 10 January 2022, 11:33 AM   #49
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I’ve been trying for this piece as well. Good history with my AD. Tough roads and been that way. They’re just not getting them in for some reason.
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Old 10 January 2022, 11:37 AM   #50
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Either pay the premium at the AD (by buying other things that they can’t sell) or pay the premium at the gray.

Or just move in with your life.

I’d probably do the latter.


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Old 10 January 2022, 11:42 AM   #51
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I’ve come to the conclusion that I’m not getting this piece at an AD and it is truly a unicorn. To give some perspective, I’ve spent about $150K in the past 12 months with a family owned AD and I haven’t been able to get a Turquoise OP41 that I requested when it was first released. In that same time period, I’ve gotten a Pepsi, YG green dial Daytona and a RG olive dial DD.
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Old 10 January 2022, 12:10 PM   #52
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I’ve come to the conclusion that I’m not getting this piece at an AD and it is truly a unicorn. To give some perspective, I’ve spent about $150K in the past 12 months with a family owned AD and I haven’t been able to get a Turquoise OP41 that I requested when it was first released. In that same time period, I’ve gotten a Pepsi, YG green dial Daytona and a RG olive dial DD.
Nice collection there, especially the latter which is the end game for me.
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Old 10 January 2022, 12:31 PM   #53
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I’ve come to the conclusion that I’m not getting this piece at an AD and it is truly a unicorn. To give some perspective, I’ve spent about $150K in the past 12 months with a family owned AD and I haven’t been able to get a Turquoise OP41 that I requested when it was first released. In that same time period, I’ve gotten a Pepsi, YG green dial Daytona and a RG olive dial DD.
Thanks for the input. My AD has only seen one since release. Logic would dictate only the very best clients would receive one. They are very rare at the moment.
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Old 10 January 2022, 01:43 PM   #54
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Didn't even occur to me. It's clear buying this watch requires an extra 10K. I was a billionaire I wouldn't pay it. Principle.
Seems life will go on if you don’t get one. You don’t want to pay the gray premium. I agree with you on that. But you want a very in demand piece. And you don’t even want to drive 2 hours round trip to the dealer. So find another watch to go after.
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Old 10 January 2022, 01:57 PM   #55
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Scarce.Very .ADs dont see them often.
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Old 10 January 2022, 02:42 PM   #56
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Not trying to be funny, but....

This watch has shot up so much to in my opinion insane unjustifiable prices that no ad is even entertaining a phone call or walk in for it and realistically you are not getting this watch from any ad they don’t know you well


My advice is move on.


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Old 10 January 2022, 03:20 PM   #57
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Dont waste your time.
Its not going to happen
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Old 10 January 2022, 05:20 PM   #58
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Hello all.

So, I have a modest watch collection compared to most here. 3 Rolex's, 1 Omega.

Bought all new, never paid retail for any of them.

I'm on a waiting list for the newish OP 41, with turqoise dial. Have a feeling could be waiting for years to obtain this watch WITHOUT paying more than retail. Which I won't.

I know, I know, if you want it bad enough, pony up the difference. I get it. Just not me.

So, in all seriousness, what might you recommend I do? Randomly call AD's in hopes a) they have it, and b) they will sell it to me? c) something else?

Any sage advice from anyone??

Seems many obtained are being flipped for a significant profit. All good. Not begrudging someone wanting to make some easy dough. I just happen to wear my watches. Like my Hulk, which I could make some serious coin on now. But I love it, and wear it.

Have payment instantly available.

Take care everyone!
I’d move on, pick another brand or model
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