What is a Mk1 126600 Sea Dweller? Educate me please

[Manamana]

Originally Posted by Devildog

There are MK1s with 2018 cards. I’ve seen some on here. Do we know for a fact that all MK1s were made in 2017?


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The Mk1 dial is the 50th Anniversary dial, the year that the dealer sold it doesn't matter. There are 2019 and 2020 cards too. There may be only a handful with 2022 cards, Imagine how rare that will be. 2017 card production is in tens of thousands. Grey dealers hype Rolex references based on rarity now, look how they are asking for premium for a new card Hulk.

[paxjedi]

Originally Posted by Devildog

Joking aside, if you have a 6 inch wrist I'd give the 126600 a miss.

But... but.... but...

I am hoarding Rolex watches like many here, regardless of wrist size!
And like many here, the Rolex watches will just sit on a display for pictures and not on my wrist.



(Kidding aside, I have a sub, and a 216570, the large Explorer II and they sit both fine on my 6.5" wrist.)

[Manamana]

Enjoy your watches, and wear in good health

[rambo99]

Originally Posted by Devildog

There are MK1s with 2018 cards. I’ve seen some on here. Do we know for a fact that all MK1s were made in 2017?


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only rolex know if mk 1 were only made in 2017 or not, so in the 2nd market all mk 1 are considered to be the anniversary version SD43.

[chippie]

Ok, full disclosure i own a SD43 MK2,
I believe the SD43 is one of the most undervalued references in the grey market currently,
I know its not for everyone but is a "tiffany OP" or a "RG DD OLIVE"
The SD43 is a proper unit of a watch, a grown up Sub with more wrist presence.
I was very lucky to buy from an AD after a years wait but would consider one at Grey money had i not been fortunate.
I guess if you want the true 50th model (investment) you may have to go MK1 but if you just want a SD43 to wear either will do.
Just be aware the 5 year warranty will be nearing the end on 2017 MK1s
I don't buy for hype/investment/collecting so i maybe the ODD one !

[jets]

I’ve got a dated may 1st 2017 MK1. One of the first delivered. Maybe worth $26 more


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[koronet-kid]

It’s he one just before the MK2 here to help

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by rambo99

only rolex know if mk 1 were only made in 2017 or not, so in the 2nd market all mk 1 are considered to be the anniversary version SD43.

Apart from those bought and dated in 2017. They definitely weren’t made in 2018


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[Brny11]

6 inch wrist. Move on from SD lineup. Go SubC. Of course all my opinion but the watch is noticeable on the wrist. Many claim to love it (true or not is up to them), but many also sold it due to size and comfort.

[Al1988]

You learn something new everyday.

I guess I have a Mk1 from July 2017…

I actually think the Mk2 with the Rolex crown at the 6 o clock looks cool.


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[Dirt]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

Mk1 is the old movement people…….

It's the same movement.
The 50th Sea-Dweller has always had the 32xx movement from its introduction.

[samson66]

Originally Posted by Devildog

There are MK1s with 2018 cards. I’ve seen some on here. Do we know for a fact that all MK1s were made in 2017?


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My MK1 is dated Jan 2018

I believe MK1 would denote the first year of production. The SD43 wasn't introduced to the market until late March 2017

But in the end I guess we won't know the exact production dates. I assume they produced MK1's until they ran out of MK1 dials.

[Gerry62]

I bought SD43 two months ago new from AD and as a detractor I have to change my mind. Sold Deepsea JC
Balance ..weight ... thickness ... visibility.
I have had many divers but this is an excellent evolution

[telesquire]

Not sure I'd want to give a grey 18k when he doesn't name the watch correctly....'Seadweller" What sead?

[Tools]

Originally Posted by paxjedi

Yes I understand what Mk is all about - and the accompanying hype for pixel peepers. But I just want to know what is the specific difference between a MK1 and succeeding MKs for this Sea Dweller.

I am planning to get one and I like to understand everything about a Rolex model before I buy it. I don't really care whatever MK version I get, but I just want to know. Thanks.

The point Peter was making is that there is no true rhyme or reason, and nobody owns the terms. They are made up.

In some cases a slight font change is called a "Mkxx", in other instances it is called an "APH" dial rather than a Mk, or it might be called an "error dial", when, in fact, no error is even involved. .. or a Long E dial, or even a "No Date" dial, when the watch does have a date; don't get me started on rail and track dials???

In truth, the crown dials shouldn't be called Mk anything, they should be called "Crown Dials", or "Transition Dials", another popular term.

There are no other characteristics about Mk-ing, like movements and such... that would be a whole other discussion.

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by padi56

Same movement but has tiny minuscule font dial changes on the so called Mk11 nothing more, and seeing dials are made in 3 different factories now all owned by Rolex .There always have been and always will be tiny variations over production years on most all Rolex watches..

But in this case there are only two that can easily be differentiated and identified by even the most obtuse eye. Despite your best efforts to act like you don’t know what anyone is referring to with these “so called” different dials, you knew exactly what the differences were and clearly identified them.

You’re absolutely right There could be dozens or even hundreds of variations when it comes to slight dial differences, but in the case of this dial there are absolutely 2 specific variations that correspond with different time periods of production.

[Manamana]

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[Manamana]

Originally Posted by Tools

The point Peter was making is that there is no true rhyme or reason, and nobody owns the terms. They are made up.

In some cases a slight font change is called a "Mkxx", in other instances it is called an "APH" dial rather than a Mk, or it might be called an "error dial", when, in fact, no error is even involved. .. or a Long E dial, or even a "No Date" dial, when the watch does have a date; don't get me started on rail and track dials???

In truth, the crown dials shouldn't be called Mk anything, they should be called "Crown Dials", or "Transition Dials", another popular term.

There are no other characteristics about Mk-ing, like movements and such... that would be a whole other discussion.

The dial differences on the SD43 Mk1 vs Mk2 are not insignificant

1. Lack of coronette at 6 o'clock on Mk1 although it has the new movement
already
2. I vs 1 ie I220m vs 1220m
3. (Superlative Chronometer) font is different between MkI vs MKII - one has
more weight / more substantial.

The new Mk2 dials came on the SD43 post bazel 2018 batch, Mk1 dial only one year run, so far we are in 2022, and no other variations on the Mk2 dial. Rolex could have just added the coronet to denote the new movement, but it changed the I to 1 which indicates it's a mistake on Mk1, and also changed font.

[1665fan]

I’ve got my mark1 Pepsi so I’m good ��

[Dirt]

So in essence, there is enough of a difference between them to distinguish.
Whether it's going to have enough relevance in the market for collectors long term remains to be seen.

As noted by Peter, there have been a number of different manufacturers of dials for Rolex.
My understanding is there have typically been as many as 4 of them.
Also Rolex brought all, or a proportion of them under their banner back in the early 2000's to effectively be regarded as in-house.
In all my years, I have only ever seen dials signed on the back "Rolex" or "Singer".

[paxjedi]

Originally Posted by Brny11

6 inch wrist. Move on from SD lineup. Go SubC. Of course all my opinion but the watch is noticeable on the wrist. Many claim to love it (true or not is up to them), but many also sold it due to size and comfort.

My wrist is not 6", and much closer to 6.5". My initial post about my wrist size was to make a point. Heck on years that I get fat, my wrist gets really big.

Either way, it doesn't really matter to me if the watch looks "big" on my wrist. I have a Sub, and two Explorer II (a 41mm and 42mm) and I couldn't tell the bloody difference.

I just want the 50th Anni SD because I turned 50 the same year.

[Brny11]

Originally Posted by paxjedi

My wrist is not 6", and much closer to 6.5". My initial post about my wrist size was to make a point. Heck on years that I get fat, my wrist gets really big.

Either way, it doesn't really matter to me if the watch looks "big" on my wrist. I have a Sub, and two Explorer II (a 41mm and 42mm) and I couldn't tell the bloody difference.

I just want the 50th Anni SD because I turned 50 the same year.

Any reason is a good reason! By size though, I meant weight and comfort, not presence! Watch actually looks great on most wrists from what I can tell.