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Old 30 October 2022, 07:00 PM   #121
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Or to make the present owner happier when he gets more money for his watch.
I think this mentality is called the investment mindset here. For me, there is nothing wrong with this, but I think that to achieve your goal, you don't need a protective film, but a safe.

You know, when I purchase a SS watch, then I do this because I want to feel the metal on my wrist or when I touch it. If I lose that natural feeling, then wearing such a watch becomes pointless for me. I want to enjoy my watch as long as I wear it, and not at the very single moment when I sell it.

It seems to me that this argument stems from the marketing rhetoric of the manufacturers of protective films. I think, that in this case they are the ones who profits from the ideology that it is better to wear a watch with a condom than to risk a direct contact with a natural skin.

But a usual, this is my personal opinion only
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Old 30 October 2022, 07:49 PM   #122
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Best keep them nice for the next owner.
You don’t want it all scratches, it’ll be worth less - like all those scratched or used polished watches you see for like $6000 less than the factory fresh ones.
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So a series of owners preserving watches for subsequent owners?

Insanity.
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Old 31 October 2022, 12:31 AM   #124
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Your photos bring up a point I was making earlier in this thread. Look at the 12 o’clock portion of your bracelets. The brushed section shouldn’t be that glossy naturally. You can also see the dirt around the edges of the cut outs on your DJ41, 6 o’clock side is most obvious. The sub has the same problem too especially on the 6 o’clock end links. Kinda like having a crusty booger at the end of one’s nostril lol.

I’m not for or against the film as previously stated. Whatever makes the owner more comfortable and likely to wear.
Day to day wear it doesn't really bother me tbh. No one really sits there scrutinizing the watch up close. In my line of work although I'm usually in a dress shirt I do a lot of hands on work and hate taking my watch off.

I'm often cutting lenses and fabricating eyewear, lens shavings in particular are very fine and coarse. Similar to sand they can easily scratch even the toughest surface. Then I type quite a bit and keyboards are the bane of clasps. Due to all that I much prefer some protection.


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Old 31 October 2022, 12:58 AM   #125
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So a series of owners preserving watches for subsequent owners?

Insanity.

Most of the people who actually use them want to preserve them for themselves. They seem happier and more comfortable wearing their watches with this on it. Which should be all that matters.

It’s weird that people can’t understand why someone wouldn’t want a beat up watch. If you don’t care fine, but you can’t imagine that there are people who don’t like getting scratches on their watches? It’s not always about the evil “investment mindset.”

I think it’s good the OP posted this so people can see what these look like and hear his experience.
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Why don't we go the whole 9 yards and just encapsulate the watch like comic collectors do
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Old 31 October 2022, 02:24 AM   #127
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If you don’t care fine
Well, if "don't care" these days means someone dares to wear a watch on his wrist without cover it with some cheap plastic, then this world is truly deserves the destruction.

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but can't you imagine that there are people who don't like having their watch scratched?
I can't imagine, as it is obvious that there will be a lot more scratches on the protective film than on a metal bracelet, simply because any metal is more solid than a plastic like this. And since these plastics have to be replaced from time to time, and they are not cheap, so you won't gain anything in the end when you sell the watch. In return, you don't really enjoy your watch for a single minute as a horologist. Then what for to purchase a luxury watch? To get a feeling of a cheap plastic you can purchase a Casio for the price of the protective film.
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This is the equivalent of wearing a condom forever with your partner so they are pristine for the next person.
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Old 31 October 2022, 03:23 AM   #129
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That's a false equivalent argument "This is the equivalent of wearing a condom forever with your partner so they are pristine for the next person."

It's similar to a case a screen protector for your phone. Or, covering your outdoor furniture in the winter.

Amazing how many hypocrites there are on this thread.
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Old 31 October 2022, 03:36 AM   #130
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That's a false equivalent argument "This is the equivalent of wearing a condom forever with your partner so they are pristine for the next person."

It's similar to a case a screen protector for your phone. Or, covering your outdoor furniture in the winter.

Amazing how many hypocrites there are on this thread.

And people who have a complete inability to see or understand anything that’s outside of their own worldview.
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Well, I have a very simple suggestion. It won't be for everyone, but it probably will be for those who live in constant fear that their things won't stay in perfect condition:

Don't buy or use things you can't afford. If you follow this rule, you will enjoy your life much more.

Carped diem!

BTW: I've never used film on my phone. What for? These phones will lose their value within a few years anyway. I rather believe that it is not advisable to test the hardness of the ground with a phone too often, while it's considerable to add some oil the file before cleaning the display. In my experience, this is more than enough to keep a phone in good shape as long as you use it. I purchase things to use and enjoy, and not to preserve these in pristine condition for somebody else.
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Well, I have a very simple suggestion. It won't be for everyone, but it probably will be for those who live in constant fear that their things won't stay in perfect condition:

Don't buy or use things you can't afford. If you follow this rule, you will enjoy your life much more.

Carped diem!

BTW: I've never used film on my phone. What for? These phones will lose their value within a few years anyway. I rather believe that it is not advisable to test the hardness of the ground with a phone too often, while it's considerable to add some oil the file before cleaning the display. In my experience, this is more than enough to keep a phone in good shape as long as you use it. I purchase things to use and enjoy, and not to preserve these in pristine condition for somebody else.
Again you keep going on about 'someone else' why do you keep jumping to this conclusion of someone else?? Its such a flawed notion of your's that its all for someone else.

I'm sure people don't go around dropping their phones or scratching their screens but accidents happen. In the case of a screen it visually distracts you and detracts from the overall viewing experience when its all scratched up. A screen protector doesn't preserve it for the next person.

My car is a 9 yr old BMW that looks mint but has its nicks, scratches and stone chips here and there. The interior however is pristine and I keep it that way using the best cleaning products. Its one of the last of stickshift 335's and I keep it pristine not for anyone else but for myself. I don't like perpetually paying for a car on lease and since I own it and its paid off I keep it looking for fresh.

I've got protective film on mine and my wife's watches pictured above. They were our wedding watches and we have no intentions to ever get rid of them but we do enjoy the peace of mind of some protection.

Even from something simple as when one of our dog's who is still a young pup but a big dog jumps and greets us, sometimes resting his very abrasive paws on our wrists. There was never a thought of I'm preserving this for someone else in my mind when I put the film on.

Your whole theory just sounds so stupid at this point.

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I think someone was trying to make the point that if one was buying a watch, all things being equal, most people would pick one with fewer scratches. It was meant to show that there was some value to keeping scratches off a watch.

People’s brains have become so addled by the current watch situation that this reasonable point morphed into “you want to keep it pristine to flip.”

At this point I think some people are being willfully
obtuse.
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Old 31 October 2022, 11:47 PM   #134
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Well, I have a very simple suggestion. It won't be for everyone, but it probably will be for those who live in constant fear that their things won't stay in perfect condition:

Don't buy or use things you can't afford. If you follow this rule, you will enjoy your life much more.

Carped diem!

BTW: I've never used film on my phone. What for? These phones will lose their value within a few years anyway. I rather believe that it is not advisable to test the hardness of the ground with a phone too often, while it's considerable to add some oil the file before cleaning the display. In my experience, this is more than enough to keep a phone in good shape as long as you use it. I purchase things to use and enjoy, and not to preserve these in pristine condition for somebody else.

What in the world? What does being able to afford a watch have to do with wanting to keep scratches off of it?


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I use a case protector myself for my phone because it gets handled much differently than a watch and has a huge risk of breaking when being dropped, even from small heights.

I had a phone break from less than a 1 foot drop on a marble counter-top. A 2 week repair and a massive headache of being without my phone for that period.

My gf drops her phone almost on a daily basis taking it in/out her pocket or handbag. If not for a protective case we would have to deal with endless repairs or new purchases all the time.

That a watch gets hairlines or scratches doesn't ruin the functionality or purpose.

I am comfortable with putting scratches on any watch regardless of value. I wear them to beaches, in the sauna, steam room, hot tub, you name it. To me they are watches to wear and enjoy without concern of scratches.

Let's be real, unless you carelessly try to bang and scrape your watch on every surface you see, it's still going to look fantastic in a few decades.

I don't think anyone would consider putting protective plastic on a $200 watch. So it's probably just a matter of some people getting comfortable with the pricetag.

In 10 years, the people that have stickers on today most likely won't still have them on.
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Again you keep going on about 'someone else'
Because I didn't want to talk about you or hurt anyone personally. If someone recognizes (s)himself based on the description, it's not my fault.

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Well, yes. I've already dropped one of my phones so that the display was broken. So what? The insurance paid for the damage and it was replaced for free. In the meantime saved twice the price of a meaningless protective film.

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Exactly what I said. Maintaining something as best as possible is something I agree with. But do you, for example, use a protective film on the steering wheel or on the buttons, or perhaps on the glasses? No? If not, why not? We were talking about protective films and not about taking care of precious things.

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Just like my car. However, since I like to enjoy the leather steering wheel, the touch of the whole interior, no one could slap me with some cheap plastic to cover the interior and prevent me from enjoying the ride.

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They were our wedding watches and we have no intentions to ever get rid of them but we do enjoy the peace of mind of some protection.
While I can't imagine a wedding ring protector, but honestly as the World changes, it may be the next gadget for the masses.

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What in the world? What does being able to afford a watch have to do with wanting to keep scratches off of it?
I hope that at the same time, you have already put the protective film on your shoes, clothes, jewelry and on all your household items as well. How stupid I was that I never thought about how many scratches surrounds me and how much it should bother me...

Besides, I'm now very uncomfortable after learning that I'm an idiot for wearing my watches the way people have been doing for hundreds of years.

And yes, I'm sure I'd see quite a few scratches on these under a magnifying glass. But who cares? You know, for example, that's why I haven't bought much more expensive watches, and what's more, that's why I haven't bought a Santos, because I know myself and I'm afraid that the polished part would get scratched very quickly. In my case, this means that I will wait until the medium size version with a blue cover will be available, but never ever will purchase a Santos and cover it with a plastic protector.

But that's me. In my opinion let everyone be happy with the plastic feel of their luxury watch. If this makes them happier, it's all right for me, but it will never be my cup of tea. And if you allow me, than I intend to not to feel as an idiot just because of I will never ever be an anti-scratching plastic-trendy person.

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" I'm now very uncomfortable after learning that I'm an idiot for wearing my watches the way people have been doing for hundreds of years"

No one said you were an 'idiot' for doing what you want. That's the whole point, wax your car if you want, use a phone protector if you want, add some scratch protector if you want, cover your outdoor furniture in the winter if you want.

The OP was just sharing their opinion and so many follow up posts are so strongly judgemental with comments about "if you can't afford it", etc.

Anyone who thinks they are right on this topic....is wrong.
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To be honest, there are more and more topics on TRF these days about "what kind of plastic a watch should be wrapped in". However this was the first one in which this kind of trendism or hysteira went to that level that they told me that I'm careless because I don't care about minor scratches on my watches ;) This offense was brand new for me and therefore I responded. It was my fault, sorry for this.

In sum, as this kind of thinking became a religion, so I'm not interested in it any more
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I hope that at the same time, you have already put the protective film on your shoes, clothes, jewelry and on all your household items as well. How stupid I was that I never thought about how many scratches surrounds me and how much it should bother me...

Besides, I'm now very uncomfortable after learning that I'm an idiot for wearing my watches the way people have been doing for hundreds of years.
Obviously I do not put protective film on my clothes and shoes. But I do take steps to keep them looking like new as long as possible. And as for jewelry, people polish jewelry. Which we know is also a no-no among the TRF Cognoscenti.

A guy posts a comment about a product he found useful. Instead of saying, “this isn’t for me” or “this likely won’t be a good product because x, y, or z reasons,” we get all kinds of weird responses of people making value judgments and making all kinds of assumptions about the personality and motivations of the OP or anyone who would want to use the product. None of which are based on anything in the thread.

Weird times.
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If this isn’t your thing, I totally get it. But I don’t see how some people can’t understand why someone wouldn’t want to scratch their 5 figure watch.
And it probably makes people more likely to wear their watches. Which is what everyone here claims people should be doing. Because you don’t need protective film if the watch is sitting in the safe.

Just another case of a bunch of folks that think everyone should enjoy the hobby exactly how they should enjoy the hobby. Too much of that here in my opinion.
This is exactly my thoughts. If it encourages more Rolex owners to wear their watches, that would not be a bad thing at all.
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Okay I did it. I did it on 3 of them. I bought it from WatchShells. The product is decent. But I'm convinced their data security is shit because someone tried to scam me right after. Anyway I got their standard kit for the Daytona, which means the clasp and the side and back of the case but not the bracelet. Then I only got the clasp for the Explorer and the GMT, because I already have a good amount of scratches in them and I tried to polish it out myself before applying. Anyway I'll post some photos next.

First impression is good. You do realize that you feel the plastic film rather than a smooth SS. It creates certain sharp edges. The film is tough. It was not easy to apply with my less than 20/20 vision and non-surgical-precision hands. Visually there is very little to diminish the aesthetics. Psychologically, it helps me a lot to enjoy the watch. I took the Daytona out with my daughter for a kids birthday party and to her dentist appointment without a single ounce of worry. I know the bracelet will still scratch, but it's just a bit too much work for me to cover everything, and I'm not sure I want to completely void myself of the feeling of touching the steel.

As far as putting it on the already scratched up GMT and Explorer, it's less than ideal and I would highly recommend applying the film for brand new or recently professionally polished watches only.

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we get all kinds of weird responses of people making value judgments and making all kinds of assumptions about the personality and motivations of the OP or anyone who would want to use the product. None of which are based on anything in the thread.
I never talked about OP or the others. I talked about that I don't understand what's the point of wrapping a metal watch in plastic, since it's in my view this is a meaningless thing. Let me explain this in a more detailed way.

According to the rules of formal logic, if anything could scratch a Rolex, it will surely scratch a plastic film protector more heavily. This means in itself, if a thin plastic film is not scratched at all, then it was not needed at all. If, on the other hand, it gets heavily scratched, then you either end up looking on your ugly scratched plastic watch, or you have to constantly change the film. Could this be a good solution? In contrary, Rolex spent decades to find the best metal for their casings. Among other things, this is what makes a Rolex perfect. However if you don't trust their expertise, it's probabaly better for you to choose from other manufacturer's watches. It's not an offensive advice, but a suggestion. If you're so afraid that you can accidentally scratch a tool watch, then it means that you won't be able to enjoy that watch the way you should do.

It's not about money or spending. It's about the miss of the enjoyment. This way you will never get the feeling that you wear a Rolex. Yeah, I know, that you will know that you wear a Rolex, but you will never feel it, mostly, because you will not feel the metal, but the plastic cover only. But then, what's in it for you?

However, this is my personal opinion only, what I don't want to tell again. In the same time, as I don't want to ruin anyone's religion, so I don't want to be more participate in this contest Accoringly, please let me send you my best wishes, and in the same time please let me exit from this debate as this is not amuses me at all.
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I never talked about OP or the others. I talked about that I don't understand what's the point of wrapping a metal watch in plastic, since it's in my view this is a meaningless thing. Let me explain this in a more detailed way.

According to the rules of formal logic, if anything could scratch a Rolex, it will surely scratch a plastic film protector more heavily. This means in itself, if a thin plastic film is not scratched at all, then it was not needed at all. If, on the other hand, it gets heavily scratched, then you either end up looking on your ugly scratched plastic watch, or you have to constantly change the film. Could this be a good solution? In contrary, Rolex spent decades to find the best metal for their casings. Among other things, this is what makes a Rolex perfect. However if you don't trust their expertise, it's probabaly better for you to choose from other manufacturer's watches. It's not an offensive advice, but a suggestion. If you're so afraid that you can accidentally scratch a tool watch, then it means that you won't be able to enjoy that watch the way you should do.

It's not about money or spending. It's about the miss of the enjoyment. This way you will never get the feeling that you wear a Rolex. Yeah, I know, that you will know that you wear a Rolex, but you will never feel it, mostly, because you will not feel the metal, but the plastic cover only. But then, what's in it for you?

However, this is my personal opinion only, what I don't want to tell again. In the same time, as I don't want to ruin anyone's religion, so I don't want to be more participate in this contest Accoringly, please let me send you my best wishes, and in the same time please let me exit from this debate as this is not amuses me at all.

But didn’t you already say you were leaving the thread before?
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