Black Bay 54 - now that’s an interesting one..

[espanol]

Originally Posted by bohren

The case of the BB54 is that of the original Tudor 7922 and the Rolex 6204 also features this case in that size with that bezel design (teeth). That's all like an original Sub with the BB54 and those Subs also had a riveted bracelet and the 6204 even gilt hands and gilt framed indices, see #198

I also love and prefer the teeth on my 14060m, I just want to say, there are more vintage Subs than only 'the Sub' and the bezel design on this case is not a Tudor thing or BB-thing.

Makes sense. Unlike most here, I don't care to be a Rolex/Tudor historian, nor do I care if they attempt to pay homage to their older watches (like you cited, 7922 and 6204). I'm making a statement about the entire BB line; visually, the coin-edge bezel just doesn't look nearly as good as the bezel on Rolex subs of the last 30, 40 years. To me, it really takes away from the overall look.

[bohren]

Originally Posted by espanol

Makes sense. Unlike most here, I don't care to be a Rolex/Tudor historian, nor do I care if they attempt to pay homage to their older watches (like you cited, 7922 and 6204). I'm making a statement about the entire BB line; visually, the coin-edge bezel just doesn't look nearly as good as the bezel on Rolex subs of the last 30, 40 years. To me, it really takes away from the overall look.

I'm with you here and I like that Tudor has made the bezel on the BB54 more bold, which is not about the better grip but about the aesthetic for me. I prefer it to the thinner teeth of my BB58.

Here's the BB54 on a plain, no-rivets Oyster again:

[espanol]

Originally Posted by White Collar Boy

Still, there’s just something inimitable about the older Subs, as close as anything gets.

Also agree. For me, it's the teeth on the bezel of Rolex subs that I really enjoy. It offers visual texture that seems to lack on the entire Tudor BB line. Strange detail, I know, but to my eyes it makes a difference.

[z_charger]

Originally Posted by espanol

Also agree. For me, it's the teeth on the bezel of Rolex subs that I really enjoy. It offers visual texture that seems to lack on the entire Tudor BB line. Strange detail, I know, but to my eyes it makes a difference.

I disagree sort of. I own the P01 and part of the visual appeal for me is the teeth similarity found on vintage Rolex and Tudor models.

[dannyp]

So the Ranger end links themselves won’t just fit between the lugs of the 54? Case curvature wrong?

In that case, I’d go with the Ranger strap and no end links.

[bohren]

Originally Posted by dannyp

So the Ranger end links themselves won’t just fit between the lugs of the 54? Case curvature wrong?

In that case, I’d go with the Ranger strap and no end links.

Have you seen my comparison of the side profiles in #189? Or simply think of the case height:
The end-link is too tall. Even if I push it upwards until it meets the bottom of the bezel - which of course it shouldn't - it still protrudes from the underside of the lugs.

As I said in my post before, you can adapt a 93150 bracelet (or any other compatible as explained there) to the female end-links and if you do, you can also use the T-Fit of the BB54 with that bracelet. I can with my 93150.
The only thing worth noting is, that there could be a difference in the hue or brushing of the steel mixed, but that should be a minor thing.

Btw, the picture attached before features a 93150-style Oyster. I mounted it just for fun and won't wear it. I love the plain Oyster style and even got the Ranger bracelet for my blue BB58, but in the case of the BB54 the default bracelet just feels right and historically original.

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by bohren

Have you seen my comparison of the side profiles in #189? Or simply think of the case height:
The end-link is too tall. Even if I push it upwards until it meets the bottom of the bezel - which of course it shouldn't - it still protrudes from the underside of the lugs.

As I said in my post before, you can adapt a 93150 bracelet (or any other compatible as explained there) to the female end-links and if you do, you can also use the T-Fit of the BB54 with that bracelet. I can with my 93150.
The only thing worth noting is, that there could be a difference in the hue or brushing of the steel mixed, but that should be a minor thing.

Btw, the picture attached before features a 93150-style Oyster. I mounted it just for fun and won't wear it. I love the plain Oyster style and even got the Ranger bracelet for my blue BB58, but in the case of the BB54 the default bracelet just feels right and historically original.

Hadn't thought about that, and didn't realize that was a Ranger bracelet on it (though I should have, seeing as it has no rivets). But I see exactly what you mean .

For what it's worth, I actually like the riveted look, what I'm less a fan of is the "laddered" look of the links when viewed head on (since rivet bracelet links themselves didn't taper).

I did get to try this model on at an AD last week and will say that overall I was mighty impressed with it. Were I to add a dive-style watch, it would be this.

[bohren]

Originally Posted by dannyp

Hadn't thought about that, and didn't realize that was a Ranger bracelet on it (though I should have, seeing as it has no rivets). But I see exactly what you mean .

Just to have no one cofused: It's not the Ranger bracelet, it's a 93150 style bracelet.
The Ranger bracelet's middle section is 10 mm, the female end-links of the BB54 want 9 mm widths (as mentioned in #140)

Originally Posted by dannyp

For what it's worth, I actually like the riveted look, what I'm less a fan of is the "laddered" look of the links when viewed head on (since rivet bracelet links themselves didn't taper).

They did taper. I don't know, if they all did, but the bracelet of the Tudor 7922, the historic original of the BB54 did. See e.g. the picture at https://rolexpassionmarket.com/watch...bmariner-7922/

I get the preference, but I feel it's more a thing in pictures than on the wrist. The trick is: If you have the bracelet hanging vertical, it's is more pronounced than when it follows the shape of the wrist.
I have attached 3 pictures as examples from the step-tapering descending from 'most prominent' to almost 'I only saw it because I knew about it.'

Originally Posted by dannyp

I did get to try this model on at an AD last week and will say that overall I was mighty impressed with it. Were I to add a dive-style watch, it would be this.

Yeah! It's really a nice one.

[Rebel]

I like the 37mm. Everyone doesn't have large wrists to support 40mm+ sizes.

[bohren]

A picture from the archives, me as a young man wearing a Tudor diver. The shot must have been taken in '54. :ø)

[White Collar Boy]

That’s more buttons undone than I can count. Makes me realise watch photography (compared to most other advertising) has a distinct absence of ‘sexiness’. I guess it’s often (but not always) for other men, and assumes a heterosexual disinterest in chest hair.

[bohren]

Originally Posted by White Collar Boy

That’s more buttons undone than I can count. Makes me realise watch photography (compared to most other advertising) has a distinct absence of ‘sexiness’. I guess it’s often (but not always) for other men, and assumes a heterosexual disinterest in chest hair.

Haha, thank you!

Here's another picture of that old Tudor watch. I'm still wearing it in this day and age. :ø)

[PO.Victory]

I think the more sterile bezel of the BB54 makes the gilt dial pop better than the BB58. The BB54 is just really beautiful.

[bohren]

Originally Posted by PO.Victory

I think the more sterile bezel of the BB54 makes the gilt dial pop better than the BB58. The BB54 is just really beautiful.

Absolutely. On the one hand it makes the BB54 less 'pretty-pretty', a bit more restrained and sober than the BB58, which was always a bit too much for me in the sum of all it's gilt and on the other hand there's that amplified glow in the center. It's magic™.

New picture:

[Nav01L]

Tried it recently, it's pretty darn cool

[bp1000]

The more I wear this watch, the more I love it and I loved it from the first minute of trying it at the AD.

Size is just a number, it wears beautifully. Pretty much perfect.

[ap1]

This thing is growing on me and I blame u all

[bohren]

Originally Posted by ap1

This thing is growing on me and I blame u all

I have one more:

[csaltphoto]

Originally Posted by ap1

This thing is growing on me and I blame u all

Yeah, it's a great looking watch. Classy and understated.

[bohren]

For your pleasure:

[espanol]

Originally Posted by bohren

For your pleasure:

Dagnabbit bohren, could you please stop? My wallet doesn’t need this! Awesome pic. Really tempted to pick one up.

I know the question was floated earlier, but anyone have experience cutting the rubber strap yet?

[bohren]

Originally Posted by espanol

Dagnabbit bohren, could you please stop? My wallet doesn’t need this! Awesome pic. Really tempted to pick one up.

I know the question was floated earlier, but anyone have experience cutting the rubber strap yet?

Haha, sorry!

Regarding the rubber I cannot help, but as for posting pictures ... sure, will do. :ø)

[derAlchemist]

Originally Posted by espanol

I know the question was floated earlier, but anyone have experience cutting the rubber strap yet?

No, but i did put an oysterflex on mine and it looks really nice 🫢 :)


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[Scholar]

Originally Posted by derAlchemist

No, but i did put an oysterflex on mine and it looks really nice 🫢 :)


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Let's see!

[derAlchemist]

The end links I have are not perfect for the bb54 - I will order the correct end links and then I’ll do a proper shoot.
But even like this I find it looks pretty nice


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[bohren]

Originally Posted by derAlchemist

The end links I have are not perfect for the bb54 - I will order the correct end links and then I’ll do a proper shoot.
But even like this I find it looks pretty nice

Beautiful!

I had asked at the boutique some weeks ago for the rubber, but they hadn't gotten the prices and details. If it were a bit more 'affordable' and if could have used my T-Fit, I would have probably ordered one - just for fun.But I don't mind much as my Sub and my two BBs live on their bracelet, it's only my Seiko Turtle which I wear on a rubber, anyway.

But it looks really cool!

Apropos bracelets ...

[derAlchemist]

Originally Posted by bohren

Beautiful!

I had asked at the boutique some weeks ago for the rubber, but they hadn't gotten the prices and details. If it were a bit more 'affordable' and if could have used my T-Fit, I would have probably ordered one - just for fun.But I don't mind much as my Sub and my two BBs live on their bracelet, it's only my Seiko Turtle which I wear on a rubber, anyway.

But it looks really cool!

Apropos bracelets ...

Thanks, this is an actual rolex oysterflex that I was test fitting on it. ( works great but the endlinks are not the perfect ones, these ones are for explorer )
I’m also waiting to hear back regarding the tudor rubber bracelet, but right after I got the bb54 my contact at the ad went on vacation :(

Beautiful shot btw

Here’s mine






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[WatchThinker]

Originally Posted by bohren

Beautiful!

I had asked at the boutique some weeks ago for the rubber, but they hadn't gotten the prices and details. If it were a bit more 'affordable' and if could have used my T-Fit, I would have probably ordered one - just for fun.But I don't mind much as my Sub and my two BBs live on their bracelet, it's only my Seiko Turtle which I wear on a rubber, anyway.

But it looks really cool!

Apropos bracelets ...

This has been a great thread!! Spent part of my morning going through it - although it is a little older. I was wondering how @bohren and the others feel about the BB54 after a few months?

I want to take another look at it. I had it in hand and thought the dial was a little small, BUT, I was wearing a bit larger watches then. Since that time, I've been wearing my 40mm sub a lot - but also my Doxa 300T, which has about the same size dial, and I think I gave it a way too cursory a look.

My wrist is 6.8-7.0" and flat, so I wear a pretty big range of sizes, but don't own anything like the 54 ( who does )....

If anyone has any updates, that'd be great.

[Midlifegoals]

The rubber looks outstanding. Can the original Tudor rubber bracelet be ordered separately? Assuming I’ll need to inquire at the dealer.

I don’t have a proper chronograph for track photos, so this had to do…

[Scaramanga74]

Originally Posted by Midlifegoals

The rubber looks outstanding. Can the original Tudor rubber bracelet be ordered separately? Assuming I’ll need to inquire at the dealer.

I don’t have a proper chronograph for track photos, so this had to do…

Yes, the rubber can be bought separately but it´s really expensive as also have to buy a new clasp. Approx 800 usd my AD told me.