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Old 3 July 2023, 09:45 PM   #1
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Buy a Rolex Explorer 36mm TT to Purchase Rolex Starbucks

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Visited an international Rolex dealer and saw a Starbucks in the shop window. Enquired about the Starbucks and was told it is possible to purchase, only if bundled with an Explorer M124273-0001.

I know this is technically frowned upon by Rolex, but it was actually refreshing to see a dealer be up front and honest with me, telling me what I need to do in order to acquire the piece that I want, rather than the games the UK ADs usually play.

Can anyone from UK tell me what the list prices are for the 2 watches? I am seriously considering it.

What is the current resale price of the Explorer 36mm TT? It's not a watch that I want, and I'm not looking to make any profit on it. I would be happy to get list back just so I can get the Starbucks.

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Old 3 July 2023, 09:47 PM   #2
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That doesn’t seem like a terrible deal if I’m being honest. I’d bet you could get retail on the explorer or within $1000 which is cheaper than going gray
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Old 3 July 2023, 09:48 PM   #3
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A Rolex Starbucks? The nicknames are getting increasingly trashy. :(
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Old 3 July 2023, 09:49 PM   #4
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You'd get about £7k back, I presume there is Tax where you are and the Starbucks will be more expensive... Name:  Screenshot_20230703_124708_Samsung Internet.jpg
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Old 3 July 2023, 09:53 PM   #5
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You'd get about £7k back, I presume there is Tax where you are and the Starbucks will be more expensive... Attachment 1376454

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Thanks for this. Going by the exchange rate, the Explorer is working out at around £10,950.

So looks like it's 1k more expensive to begin with.

The Submariner is working out at around £10,050.

What's the list for the Sub back home?
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Old 3 July 2023, 09:55 PM   #6
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Thanks for this. Going by the exchange rate, the Explorer is working out at around £10,950.



So looks like it's 1k more expensive to begin with.



The Submariner is working out at around £10,050.



What's the list for the Sub back home?
£9100 so £950 more.


Then on the explorer you will lose about 4k, so it's cost you about 14k to get the Starbucks....

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Old 3 July 2023, 09:56 PM   #7
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That would be a cool little duo to have.


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Old 3 July 2023, 09:58 PM   #8
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£9100 so £950 more.


Then on the explorer you will lose about 4k, so it's cost you about 14k to get the Starbucks....

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Thank you mate, much appreciated.

Doesn't seem like a good deal after all!
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Old 3 July 2023, 10:07 PM   #9
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That deal is a whole lot better then the more usual “deal” of buy this and it will help you get a Submariner
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Old 3 July 2023, 11:30 PM   #10
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Explorers seem to be one of if not the most readily available models to purchase, so I wouldn't expect secondary market resale to be very good.
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Old 3 July 2023, 11:42 PM   #11
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I love the candidness of the AD. That's cool, even though I wouldn't take that deal. I wouldn't wear that TT Explorer if you bought it for me and covered the shipping.
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Old 4 July 2023, 12:05 AM   #12
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A Rolex Starbucks? The nicknames are getting increasingly trashy. :(
Just in an AD and overheard the SA was telling a customer that the nicknames were from people on the watch forums, not from Rolex and most customers have never heard of them. LOL
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If you like the Explorer and want two watches I’d do the deal
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Old 4 July 2023, 12:13 AM   #14
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Hi all.

Visited an international Rolex dealer and saw a Starbucks in the shop window. Enquired about the Starbucks and was told it is possible to purchase, only if bundled with an Explorer M124273-0001.

I know this is technically frowned upon by Rolex
It's not frowned upon by Rolex. Rolex don't care.

I would not buy a watch I didn't want to get a watch I wanted but it's your money and your choice. If you think it's a good deal you should take it.

Sounds like they have having trouble shifting TT Explorers. This would explain why my AD had one in the window for sale last week.
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Old 4 July 2023, 12:31 AM   #15
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Like a criminal telling you what he's going to do to you before he actually does it. Refreshing, indeed.
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It's not frowned upon by Rolex. Rolex don't care.

I would not buy a watch I didn't want to get a watch I wanted but it's your money and your choice. If you think it's a good deal you should take it.

Sounds like they have having trouble shifting TT Explorers. This would explain why my AD had one in the window for sale last week.
Rolex does care (or at least makes an effort to). From the Rolex Pricing Policies section of their website:

"The sale of Rolex watches above the suggested retail price, as well as any tie-in sale, is not permitted."

But I agree, don't buy anything you don't want but it's a catch 22 with ever being allocated anything special so do what you want with your money OP.
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Old 4 July 2023, 01:20 AM   #17
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Rolex does care (or at least makes an effort to). From the Rolex Pricing Policies section of their website:

"The sale of Rolex watches above the suggested retail price, as well as any tie-in sale, is not permitted."

But I agree, don't buy anything you don't want but it's a catch 22 with ever being allocated anything special so do what you want with your money OP.
One could technically interpret that as a non-Rolex tie-in sale. After all, it does say “watches” (plural) .
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Old 4 July 2023, 01:21 AM   #18
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Now let’s see Patek’s nautilus list of requirements !
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Old 4 July 2023, 01:33 AM   #19
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Now let’s see Patek’s nautilus list of requirements !
different game
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Old 4 July 2023, 04:05 AM   #20
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At least giving you the option.

If you could obtain the Explorer with stickers intact, perhaps you could do better on resale?
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agreed. I think the TT explorer is not long for this world.
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Old 4 July 2023, 05:48 AM   #23
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I'd do it. I think the TT Explorer would grow on you.
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Old 4 July 2023, 06:16 AM   #24
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It’s not totally awful. Not sure where some get their numbers. These are all in GBP and include tax. U.K. MSRP is £9,900 for the Explorer + £9,100 for the LV = £19,000.

There’s plenty worn explorers listed on the usual sites for £8k - £9k. Even if you could get £7,500 from a private sale, that would be £11,500 for the LV which is right in between list price and grey. But yeah, depends what you can get for the Explorer. Would take 10 minutes to phone round a few greys and see what they’d give you for an unworn example.

On a side note, I can’t believe the Explorer is more expensive than the LV at MSRP…..
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Old 4 July 2023, 06:59 AM   #25
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What is Rolex's current intent with the Explorer, given that it doesn't have any complications, e.g. how is it really different from an Oyster Perpetual?
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Old 4 July 2023, 04:53 PM   #26
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As always I say forget the AD and their games, if you want a Starbucks just buy a pre owned model, unworn if you prefer, plenty around now at £14000 or under
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Old 4 July 2023, 08:05 PM   #27
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If the Ad is overseas you should do it and wear the Starbucks out but not the explorer then go try and return the unworn explorer. I’m sure they will decline and if they still refuse tell them you will report them to Rolex corporate and cite the info above. Tell them you weren’t aware of the policy at the time. As a last carrot tell them but tell them you’ll agree to a 10% restocking fee. I’d say screw the AD playing such games. It tarnishes the brand!
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Old 4 July 2023, 08:19 PM   #28
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A Rolex Starbucks? The nicknames are getting increasingly trashy. :(
Yeah, that one makes my teeth grate.
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Why not, I like them both
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I would buy the TT Explorer and forget about the Sub.
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