Rolex vs Omega Depth Challenge

[santoshlv426]

This is my first post to the forum, which I stumbled upon quite by accident. Still familiarizing myself.
My first question is out of academic interest. I don't dive. The recent Summer Range of Omega's with the absolutely gorgeous Omega Ultra Deep has got me asking, which brand has the watch that has the deepest dive capility.

Is it Omega at 6000m vs the Rolex Sea Dweller at 3900m?
Does any other brand go deeper ?

[Wcdhtwn]

Rolex also has the Deep Sea Challenge that is 11,000m. It’s cartoonishly massive though, way bigger than the Omega Ultra and the DSSD.

[Tools]

The average depth of the ocean is around 3,600Meters.

Any of them will hit the bottom and sit there when you drop them in; that's the only way they will ever see anything close to the "marketing" depths they proclaim.

[KatGirl]

I always thought it was silly that any watch manufacturer designs watches with these deep diving capabilities. 99% of consumers who buy them, myself included, use them to wade in the ocean, or dive into their pools. Professional divers use computerized equipment. I have a Sinn with 1000 M depth rating. I’m more than ready for any water activity I’ll be doing.

Kat


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[Driver8]

On the numbers alone, the Rolex wins with the DSC, but as noted by Tools, real world applications are few and far between, so the "ever deeper arms race" becomes nothing more than a...err..... "male organ swinging" competition between manufacturers.

[santoshlv426]

Like I said, more academic. I read up on the Deep Sea Challenge from Rolex, but it's so extreme in design, it harldy warrants to be thought of as a pracitcal wearble watch. I stand to be corrected as I've never seen one physically and probably never will.

[alllexandru]

Originally Posted by santoshlv426

Is it Omega at 6000m vs the Rolex Sea Dweller at 3900m?
Does any other brand go deeper ?

The correct question is : Which one can be safely wear diving as human at 4000 mt or 6000 mt? No sub involved

Cmon...

[padi56]

Originally Posted by santoshlv426

This is my first post to the forum, which I stumbled upon quite by accident. Still familiarizing myself.
My first question is out of academic interest. I don't dive. The recent Summer Range of Omega's with the absolutely gorgeous Omega Ultra Deep has got me asking, which brand has the watch that has the deepest dive capility.

Is it Omega at 6000m vs the Rolex Sea Dweller at 3900m?
Does any other brand go deeper ?

In the real world the W/R rating on these watch are a bit of a joke because they will never be used to the rated depth my man or even superman in water.The deepest dive by man on scuba gear carefully planned with lots of back up was just over 300m.Today some buy these types of watches as a Bragg factor minds bigger and can go deeper than yours.

[Mystro]

I find the WR pissing matches are more of a technical flex between brands. Remember a lot of non divers or even non watch enthusiasts have no clue about watches so they purchase excessive WR to be on the “safe side” for when they go swimming. Rolex knows this and why WR100M is what an Oyster case is designed for.
In Rolex real world activities all you need is a WR of 100m to swim and snorkel all day long.

[diracpoint]

Originally Posted by santoshlv426

Like I said, more academic. I read up on the Deep Sea Challenge from Rolex, but it's so extreme in design, it harldy warrants to be thought of as a pracitcal wearble watch. ... .

That "extreme design" is a HUUUU...GE part of the charm!!! (pun intended ) ... if you appreciate the engineering aspects that goes into designing such things. Plus, it's connection with the past deep sea explorations by our species and the part Rolex played in those expeditions ...

But, as always, it's not for everybody, and for that matter, no watch is ...

As a side note, wearability is again highly subjective, and there are several members on this forum (roughly 7-8 so far) who wear it regularly and quite enjoy wearing it!

[OG1982]

Originally Posted by diracpoint

That "extreme design" is a HUUUU...GE part of the charm!!! (pun intended ) ... if you appreciate the engineering aspects that goes into designing such things. Plus, it's connection with the past deep sea explorations by our species and the part Rolex played in those expeditions ...

But, as always, it's not for everybody, and for that matter, no watch is ...

As a side note, wearability is again highly subjective, and there are several members on this forum (roughly 7-8 so far) who wear it regularly and quite enjoy wearing it!

7-8, that many!

[diracpoint]

Originally Posted by Ollie1982

7-8, that many!

Yup! And, a few more are waiting! Hope they get theirs' soon!!!

[creepy neville]

Can’t wait for mine !

I’m even enjoying the wait - it’s like it’s perpetually Christmas Eve !

[brandrea]

The deepest I could find

Advertised as 12000 meters

https://uniquewatchguide.com/technomarine-abyss/

[diracpoint]

Originally Posted by brandrea

The deepest I could find

Advertised as 12000 meters

https://uniquewatchguide.com/technomarine-abyss/

One of the issues with these oil-filled quartz watches is that while the case can survive the depth, the quartz movement cannot. This is the case for Sinn UX hydro.

Maybe this technomarine-abyss is different, but I couldn't find much details about the movement. 🤷

Here's the data sheet for Sinn:

[Driver8]

Originally Posted by diracpoint

One of the issues with these oil-filled quartz watches is that while the case can survive the depth, the quartz movement cannot. This is the case for Sinn UX hydro.

I had a Sinn UX for a while, and I think (if I recall correctly), there was a time when they used to claim it was good to "all reachable depths"....but as stated, the quartz movement would actually give out before those depths were reached. The UX was quite a nice novelty watch, but on technical abilities alone it wouldn't match the DSC. While being very polarising as a watch, the DSC is quite the feat of engineering.

[diracpoint]

Originally Posted by brandrea

The deepest I could find

Advertised as 12000 meters

https://uniquewatchguide.com/technomarine-abyss/

Also, a bit confused. I clicked on the link, and it says "No longer available on the Technomarine site you can find them at Amazon." But, when I go to amazon, the specs of the same watch says "Water resistant to 660 feet (200 M): suitable for recreational scuba diving".

[aehaas]

Well, my H20 Kalmar 2 is good to 25,000m:

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by aehaas

Well, my H20 Kalmar 2 is good to 25,000m:

Ooooof

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[Subzy]

My Submariner once went to the bottom of the hot tub, about 1m.

[PenDelicate]

Originally Posted by santoshlv426

The recent Summer Range of Omega's with the absolutely gorgeous

Yup, I thought so, too.

What a great idea: grading the colours over the full line-up of the Seamaster model. I absolutely loved that.

[CFR]

I was trying on an Ultra Deep again last weekend - stainless steel w/blue dial and bracelet. This was probably the 4th time I've tried it on. I won't get it only because I already have a 126660 JC, and I don't like these types of watches enough to wear them very often or own too many of them. But if I didn't already have the Rolex, it'd be a really tough call. Omega hit a home run with that particular version.

[santoshlv426]

Originally Posted by diracpoint

Yup! And, a few more are waiting! Hope they get theirs' soon!!!

So I'm assuming that one need not OWN the watches under discussion in order to be members ?

Although ownership is great !

[alphadweller]

I like this latest Ultra Deep, 75th Anniversary of the Seamaster. Very cool dial with a mapping of the ocean floor in the Mariana Trench.

The Omega Ultra Deep prototype (not the 6k WR commercial version) went deeper than the Rolex Sea-Dweller Deep Sea Challenge prototype (10,935m vs. 10,908m).

[ratty]

Originally Posted by padi56

...

The deepest dive by man on scuba gear carefully planned with lots of back up was just over 300m. ...

You have just answered the question I was about to ask.

I don't want to hijack the thread but I'm interested to learn more about this, so I hope no one minds too much if I ask a question.

As far as depth / pressure goes, what are the limiting factors in how deep a human can go underwater?

I believe that beyond certain depths divers have to breath certain mixed of gas, but what is the pressure limit to the human body apart from the breathing mix problems?

I hope that this makes sense!

Thanks very much.

[Driver8]

Originally Posted by alphadweller

I like this latest Ultra Deep, 75th Anniversary of the Seamaster. Very cool dial with a mapping of the ocean floor in the Mariana Trench.

I agree.

That said, the only thing I don't like on the latest Ultra Deep is the gimmicky UV light "easter egg" on the dial saying "Omega was here!". Quite cringe inducing for me, and totally unnecessary on what is otherwise a very cool dial. Also a bit silly that the UV scribble says 10,935m, and they've put it on a watch that's "only" WR to 6000m. Maybe they also needed to add on the dial, "BTW if anyone asks, it says 10,935m as the prototype of this watch went to that depth.... but this one doesn't".

[aehaas]

'Amazing how many people say that a watch does not need to be more than 100mWR. True. People want these watches because that's what they want. Just like people only need clothing from Goodwill to cover up, nothing more. People only need a $19 watch to tell time.

My mother always said that if you have nothing good to say about somebody, don't say anything at all. If you can be happy for others then you will be happier too.

Ali