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ppierce · 2 November 2023, 11:17 PM

Kinda debating between these 2. You can find the zenith for around $8k on the secondary market so prices are similar. Thoughts?

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jed11 · 2 November 2023, 11:20 PM

Speedy. Not even close as far as I'm concerned...and you can a brand new Speedy from an AD at a discount so arguably better value.

Carguy87 · 3 November 2023, 02:47 AM

Have a Speedmaster Moonphase and love it; also want to add a Zenith. The movement in the Zenith has a really cool history but the Speedmaster is iconic. I’d try to get to a place you can try both on and see what sings to you.

ButtButt · 3 November 2023, 03:03 AM

I had both, sold the Zenith and loved the Speedy so much that I sold it for a 321 lol.

Easy E · 3 November 2023, 04:53 AM

I have owned both, sold both off. The Speedy - great legibility, great heritage. I found it to be a bit dry and I hardly ever wore it. The Zenith is a looker, although the back had some slight legibility issues in some lighting(I found the white better in that regard), really cool movement, but damn that clasp is awful on that watch. Plus, if you are the type to do your own link work the Zenith requires an extra gear of patience.

WatchTimes · 3 November 2023, 05:01 AM

Love my 3186 Speedy
SHOCKED at how much I wear it!

Michael1968 · 3 November 2023, 05:30 AM

Zenith for sure

salnuaimi · 3 November 2023, 05:57 AM

Speedy

unknown · 3 November 2023, 06:35 AM

The zenith is the better watch with the better movement that’s not even a discussion

Concerning the looks…. That’s something personal ofcourse

I like and own both

charger_vital · 3 November 2023, 07:35 AM

Speedy is a better watch with a better movement… but since that’s not a discussion, id say get the one you like. I’ve owned a couple zeniths El Primeros and a couple speedies. Both are great watches. But I have a preference for the speedy. I find the Zenith to be sort of a beta watch (except for the a386). Omega does not have that problem.

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bonovox · 3 November 2023, 07:59 AM

Speedy would be my choice.

AEC · 3 November 2023, 10:20 AM

I love my Speedmaster Pro. I have a soft spot for classic chronographs, and I'll have an El Primero in the collection some day. I think if choosing one or the other I would stick with the Speedmaster Pro.

Thank goodness we're not arguing in this thread about which crystal belongs on the Omega

(which, of course, is plexiglass

).

Justindo · 3 November 2023, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unknown

The zenith is the better watch with the better movement that’s not even a discussion

Concerning the looks…. That’s something personal ofcourse

I like and own both

I would agree with this, but I like the looks of the Speedmaster better.

1William · 3 November 2023, 11:04 PM

I have tried to like the Zenith but can not pull it off. Speedmaster for me.

danwang0520 · 4 November 2023, 12:06 AM

Personally, I don’t like modern iteration of the El Primero….I currently own Speedy right now, and honestly, I’ll pick Breitling B01 chrono over the Zenith

mongrelnomoad · 4 November 2023, 06:54 AM

Speedy.

beefeater21 · 5 November 2023, 02:49 AM

I owned a Speedy Pro and sold it. 2 things for me: 1) I absolutely did not enjoy winding it. Always found it to be tough to grip the crown with the crown guards. 2) it always felt too tall for me, as if it sat up on my wrist. Just my experience.

Not what you asked, but I bought a Zenith in the 38mm A386 case and have really enjoyed it. It feels a little more compact, the overlapping sundials are visually interesting, and the automatic movement negates the winding issue. That said, winding the Zenith is no real joy with the pushers constantly getting in the way of my oversized fingers. But wind once and then don't worry until it gets put away for something else.

BLACKHORSE 6 · 5 November 2023, 05:35 AM

Speedy

learningtofly · 5 November 2023, 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unknown

The zenith is the better watch with the better movement that’s not even a discussion

Concerning the looks…. That’s something personal ofcourse

I like and own both

Without question, for me. I would go for the Zenith - in fact, I own the Zenith and have just (yet again) sold my somewhat bland Speedy.

DoricSpiker · 6 November 2023, 06:48 AM

Speedmaster

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StanCho · 7 November 2023, 07:02 PM

Tastes vary, but 3861 Speedy is the most unworn and boring watch in my collection. Actually, I am selling it for the same reason.

After 2 years I've concluded it's a watch that looks great in the photos but on the wrist is quite underwhelming.

learningtofly · 7 November 2023, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StanCho

Tastes vary, but 3861 Speedy is the most unworn and boring watch in my collection. Actually, I am selling it for the same reason.

After 2 years I've concluded it's a watch that looks great in the photos but on the wrist is quite underwhelming.

Agreed, especially when this beauty as the alternative!

Saoirse32 · 8 November 2023, 05:16 AM

Both are great.
One has the heritage though.
Buy them both lol

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CKLinLA · 9 November 2023, 03:08 AM

Speedmaster has history and (to me) has a slightly duller look.
Zenith has history and the tri-colour dials especially look really beautiful.

You gotta try them and see what works for you.

2 November 2023, 11:17 PM	#1
ppierce "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2023 Location: Ohio Posts: 209	Zenith Chrono Sport or Speedmaster Pro Kinda debating between these 2. You can find the zenith for around $8k on the secondary market so prices are similar. Thoughts? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

3 November 2023, 02:47 AM	#3
Carguy87 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2022 Real Name: Steve Location: Nevada Watch: JC 126660 Posts: 4,533	Have a Speedmaster Moonphase and love it; also want to add a Zenith. The movement in the Zenith has a really cool history but the Speedmaster is iconic. I’d try to get to a place you can try both on and see what sings to you. __________________ Rolex: James Cameron 126660, 126710BLNR jubilee Omega: Speedmaster Moonphase Tag Heuer: Monaco blue dial, Formula One alarm Tudor: Black Bay GMT Opaline

3 November 2023, 05:01 AM	#6
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,787	Love my 3186 Speedy SHOCKED at how much I wear it! __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

3 November 2023, 06:35 AM	#9
unknown "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 2,872	The zenith is the better watch with the better movement that’s not even a discussion Concerning the looks…. That’s something personal ofcourse I like and own both __________________ Instagram : @collectible_watches

5 November 2023, 02:49 AM	#17
beefeater21 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: New Jersey Posts: 57	I owned a Speedy Pro and sold it. 2 things for me: 1) I absolutely did not enjoy winding it. Always found it to be tough to grip the crown with the crown guards. 2) it always felt too tall for me, as if it sat up on my wrist. Just my experience. Not what you asked, but I bought a Zenith in the 38mm A386 case and have really enjoyed it. It feels a little more compact, the overlapping sundials are visually interesting, and the automatic movement negates the winding issue. That said, winding the Zenith is no real joy with the pushers constantly getting in the way of my oversized fingers. But wind once and then don't worry until it gets put away for something else. Last edited by beefeater21; 5 November 2023 at 02:51 AM.. Reason: Added specificity

2 November 2023, 11:20 PM	#2
jed11 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: West Side Posts: 2,718	Speedy. Not even close as far as I'm concerned...and you can a brand new Speedy from an AD at a discount so arguably better value.

3 November 2023, 03:03 AM	#4
ButtButt "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: Asia Posts: 860	I had both, sold the Zenith and loved the Speedy so much that I sold it for a 321 lol.

3 November 2023, 04:53 AM	#5
Easy E 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: GA Posts: 5,071	I have owned both, sold both off. The Speedy - great legibility, great heritage. I found it to be a bit dry and I hardly ever wore it. The Zenith is a looker, although the back had some slight legibility issues in some lighting(I found the white better in that regard), really cool movement, but damn that clasp is awful on that watch. Plus, if you are the type to do your own link work the Zenith requires an extra gear of patience.

3 November 2023, 05:30 AM	#7
Michael1968 Banned Join Date: Aug 2021 Real Name: Michael Location: Europe Watch: UN,RolexTudor&more Posts: 2,742	Zenith for sure

3 November 2023, 05:57 AM	#8
salnuaimi "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Dubai Posts: 767	Speedy

3 November 2023, 07:35 AM	#10
charger_vital "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Basel Watch: LF Sport & Pepsi Posts: 1,008	Speedy is a better watch with a better movement… but since that’s not a discussion, id say get the one you like. I’ve owned a couple zeniths El Primeros and a couple speedies. Both are great watches. But I have a preference for the speedy. I find the Zenith to be sort of a beta watch (except for the a386). Omega does not have that problem. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

3 November 2023, 07:59 AM	#11
bonovox 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Colorado Watch: your time Posts: 1,447	Speedy would be my choice.

3 November 2023, 10:20 AM	#12
AEC 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Tony Location: Orchard Park, NY Watch: Idiot Savant Posts: 3,376	I love my Speedmaster Pro. I have a soft spot for classic chronographs, and I'll have an El Primero in the collection some day. I think if choosing one or the other I would stick with the Speedmaster Pro. Thank goodness we're not arguing in this thread about which crystal belongs on the Omega (which, of course, is plexiglass ).

3 November 2023, 11:04 PM	#14
1William 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 47,764	I have tried to like the Zenith but can not pull it off. Speedmaster for me.

4 November 2023, 12:06 AM	#15
danwang0520 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: Daniel Location: Taipei, Taiwan Watch: my signature Posts: 2,684	Personally, I don’t like modern iteration of the El Primero….I currently own Speedy right now, and honestly, I’ll pick Breitling B01 chrono over the Zenith

4 November 2023, 06:54 AM	#16
mongrelnomoad 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Here and there... Posts: 1,902	Speedy.

5 November 2023, 05:35 AM	#18
BLACKHORSE 6 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: USA Watch: Rolex SS Daytona Posts: 2,679	Speedy

6 November 2023, 06:48 AM	#20
DoricSpiker 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,515	Speedmaster Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

7 November 2023, 07:02 PM	#21
StanCho "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2022 Location: Croatia Posts: 318	Tastes vary, but 3861 Speedy is the most unworn and boring watch in my collection. Actually, I am selling it for the same reason. After 2 years I've concluded it's a watch that looks great in the photos but on the wrist is quite underwhelming.

8 November 2023, 05:16 AM	#23
Saoirse32 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 1,066	Zenith Chrono Sport or Speedmaster Pro Both are great. One has the heritage though. Buy them both lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ PANERAI Luminor 8 Days GMT “Dot” Dial (PAM00233) PANERAI Submersible (PAM01055) PANERAI Radiomir (PAM01385) ROLEX Sea-Dweller Mk1 (126600) ROLEX DeepSea D-Blue (136660) OMEGA Speedmaster “Silver Snoopy Award” (310.32.42.50.02.001) OMEGA Seamaster Diver 300M 75th Anniversary (210.30.42.20.03.003) IWC Chronograph Top Gun Edition “Woodland” (IW389106)

9 November 2023, 03:08 AM	#24
CKLinLA "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: KL Location: Los Angeles Watch: Explorer II Black Posts: 1,480	Speedmaster has history and (to me) has a slightly duller look. Zenith has history and the tri-colour dials especially look really beautiful. You gotta try them and see what works for you.

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