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Old 16 January 2024, 10:42 PM   #31
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That doesn’t look small to me on you one bit.

I think Daytona works on all size wrists personally - 36mm I have outgrown as time has evolved.

Reality doesn't matter Jay, only what you read on the internet.
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Old 16 January 2024, 10:48 PM   #32
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Have a 116500 white and 126500 black. The 126500 does really wear broader and slimmer at the same time. IMO the numbers look negligible, but on the wrist, it’s actually quite different, and the 126500 has a far more retro/vintage feel to it. I honestly think the 116500 wears slightly better, and I’m used to wearing larger watches, so I’m not overly sensitive to big case sizes.

It's the height of the 12 at the end link. Despite being shorter lug to lug the down turned lugs and matching end link creates more volume above and below the watch head.
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Old 17 January 2024, 12:34 AM   #33
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Yeah but isn’t 1mm the same thickness of a credit card?

Does that really make that much of a difference
Makes absolutely no difference, it's just forum infatuation. What makes more of a difference is lug length/width, dial changes to make is seem larger as an illusion etc. Case size is hardly relevant to fit.
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Old 17 January 2024, 05:40 AM   #34
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For those who didn’t. Click the link in Brads post#18 ..

Clasp width at locking side: 17.62 mm for both

Clasp length: 36.64 mm for both

Sizeable links: 15.48 mm for both

Sapphire glass:
116500: 30.31 mm
126500: 30.24 mm

Thickness (caseback to crystal):
116500: 12.16 mm
126500: 12.0 mm

Bezel (full extents of bezel/metal ring):
116500: 38.48 mm
126500: 38.76 mm

Span across watch SEL to SEL (12 to 6):
116500: 50.40 mm
126500: 49.34 mm

Span across watch crown to case (9 to 3):
116500: 42.6 mm
126500: 43.0 mm

What’s interesting (to me) is that the measurements suggest the 12 overall will wear smaller than the 11, but in pictures, the 12 looks bigger.
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Old 17 January 2024, 05:46 AM   #35
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What’s interesting (to me) is that the measurements suggest the 12 overall will wear smaller than the 11, but in pictures, the 12 looks bigger.

I totally agree with you my friend. To my eye the new reference looks larger.

I guess maybe it’s a bit like the 321 vs the 3861. By the measurements one is 2+ mm’s larger, but in real life I find the 321 wears about the same (maybe has an even larger looking dial)

I’m really not trying to turn this into an Omega thread


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Old 17 January 2024, 05:50 AM   #36
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I totally agree with you my friend. To my eye the new reference looks larger.

I guess maybe it’s a bit like the 321 vs the 3861. By the measurements one is 2+ mm’s larger, but in real life I find the 321 wears about the same (maybe has an even larger looking dial)

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That’s interesting about the 321 vs 3861.

How does the thickness compare? Is the 321 noticeably thicker?
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Old 17 January 2024, 06:21 AM   #37
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That’s interesting about the 321 vs 3861.

How does the thickness compare? Is the 321 noticeably thicker?

They wear very similar as far as wearing goes. I find the longer thinner lugs of the 321 help to balance it out.

In reality the 321 is a taller watch at about 13.7 mm. Not really THAT tall compared to a lot of divers, but compared to a Daytona it is.

I believe the sapphire 3861 is 13.2 (ish). I think the 3861 solid caseback is 13.5 mm.

I guess it just goes to show, dimensions only tell part of the story


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Old 17 January 2024, 08:27 AM   #38
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That’s interesting about the 321 vs 3861.

How does the thickness compare? Is the 321 noticeably thicker?

What’s important about the difference between the 321 and 3861 is how they actually sit differently on your wrist. The lugs have a tendency to sit off the wrist on the 321 vs the 3861 which tends to hug the wrist more. They feel very different for me on the wrist.

Here is a Daytona 116xxx vs 321 photo I took for others the other day for another thread like this. The 3861 sits closer to the Daytona vs the 321. YMMV based on your wrist shape.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=915758


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They wear very similar as far as wearing goes. I find the longer thinner lugs of the 321 help to balance it out.

In reality the 321 is a taller watch at about 13.7 mm. Not really THAT tall compared to a lot of divers, but compared to a Daytona it is.

I believe the sapphire 3861 is 13.2 (ish). I think the 3861 solid caseback is 13.5 mm.

I guess it just goes to show, dimensions only tell part of the story


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What’s important about the difference between the 321 and 3861 is how they actually sit differently on your wrist. The lugs have a tendency to sit off the wrist on the 321 vs the 3861 which tends to hug the wrist more. They feel very different for me on the wrist.

Here is a Daytona 116xxx vs 321 photo I took for others the other day for another thread like this. The 3861 sits closer to the Daytona vs the 321. YMMV based on your wrist shape.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=915758


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Many thanks, gents, good stuff.
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Old 17 January 2024, 09:40 AM   #40
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What’s important about the difference between the 321 and 3861 is how they actually sit differently on your wrist. The lugs have a tendency to sit off the wrist on the 321 vs the 3861 which tends to hug the wrist more. They feel very different for me on the wrist.

Here is a Daytona 116xxx vs 321 photo I took for others the other day for another thread like this. The 3861 sits closer to the Daytona vs the 321. YMMV based on your wrist shape.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=915758


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And much of that has to do with the shape of your wrist vs. mine. I find the 321 wears beautifully, the lugs actually hug my wrist. I remember that thread well and YMMV, and that’s Ok

Getting back to the topic at hand, 12 vs 11 Daytona … dimensionally they are very similar, but I’m sure due to subtle changes in the design, one will wear better for some than others.
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Old 20 January 2024, 12:23 AM   #41
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You are not the only one. I know that some have passed it it because of this size which supposedly about 38.5mm.
After wearing the last gen for years, the new one wears larger for sure. Small changes here and there equal a larger wearing more substantial Daytona.
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Old 20 January 2024, 12:25 AM   #42
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It's an incredible watch, there's a reason why the hype is so strong. Not many watches nail every category from fit, aesthetics, rolex build quality, history, fascinating movement etc... the list goes on.
Truth. Just moved a few regular rotation pieces and the Daytona's get most of the wrist time.
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Old 21 January 2024, 11:14 PM   #43
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Same, I have just over a 7" wrist and the 116500LN is my most comfortable sport Rolex by a mile.

The 11 series we'll be remembered like the old 5 digit Subs and GMTs for for and feel but with a much better bracelet. The new Daytona will go down like the first gen ceramic Subs and share the term "super Case".

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This "new" case design is 20 years old and I've never heard anyone call it that.
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This "new" case design is 20 years old and I've never heard anyone call it that.
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