Anyone know

[Moondoggy]

Anything about NPD…pssssss that’s not No Patek Today.

[Maleg]

Narcissistic Personality Disorder?

Do you think you need to see a specialist?

[ltmgeller]

?

[Dyim]

You are the best and you are fine.

Don't worry about the plebs.

[White Collar Boy]

It’s an interesting subject, and increasingly common to hear ‘narcissist’ used as an insult by people who may have read about it but aren’t psychiatrists or psychologists (the only people qualified to make a diagnosis). The way it is talked about like that probably puts people with NPD off seeking help.

[Maleg]

Originally Posted by White Collar Boy

It’s an interesting subject, and increasingly common to hear ‘narcissist’ used as an insult by people who may have read about it but aren’t psychiatrists or psychologists (the only people qualified to make a diagnosis). The way it is talked about like that probably puts people with NPD off seeking help.

Or, it could be that being a narcissist means they don’t consider themselves as someone that would need help. Would a true narcissist be upset to know he is a narcissist?

[White Collar Boy]

Originally Posted by Maleg

Or, it could be that being a narcissist means they don’t consider themselves as someone that would need help. Would a true narcissist be upset to know he is a narcissist?

This is all beyond my ken, to be honest. But that is something I’ve read about narcissists: they’re often unwilling to accept that they need help.

[Moondoggy]

It is as nearly complex as an uncertain mind can attain imo, no i am not one (wish I was sometimes) but by gee if you study it there are many around us and more then often they are harmless however live a challenging journey and I do not wish that upon anyone.

[Moondoggy]

Originally Posted by Maleg

Or, it could be that being a narcissist means they don’t consider themselves as someone that would need help. Would a true narcissist be upset to know he is a narcissist?

That’s a good question.

[AzPaul]

The thing to look out for is the narcissist/sociopath dividing line. Not all narcissists (NPD) are sociopaths APD), but all sociopaths are narcissists. I've been around both and the straight narcissist is much easier to deal with. You know where you stand with them. They're ego driven but more or less honest. The sociopath is basically a manipulative predator who's always in it for themselves and is willing to use any means necessary to get what they want from you.

[Moondoggy]

Originally Posted by AzPaul

The thing to look out for is the narcissist/sociopath dividing line. Not all narcissists (NPD) are sociopaths APD), but all sociopaths are narcissists. I've been around both and the straight narcissist is much easier to deal with. You know where you stand with them. They're ego driven but more or less honest. The sociopath is basically a manipulative predator who's always in it for themselves and is willing to use any means necessary to get what they want from you.

You reckon a straight narcissist is more or less honest......reason I bring this topic up is I am joining the dots of an associate I have known for years and since exploring oh man they are a narcissist on steroids however honesty is definitely not one of their traits. In their eyes they are honest.

I am understanding it is a condition that is so common but so few realise it, I just thought it was eccentricity, I was wrong.

[Speedbird-1]

"I'm not vain, but, my god, I've every right, to be".




Symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder and how severe they are can vary.
People with the disorder can:

Have an unreasonably high sense of self-importance and require constant, excessive admiration.
Feel that they deserve privileges and special treatment.
Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements.
Make achievements and talents seem bigger than they are.
Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate.
Believe they are superior to others and can only spend time with or be understood by equally special people.
Be critical of and look down on people they feel are not important.
Expect special favors and expect other people to do what they want without questioning them.
Take advantage of others to get what they want.
Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others.
Be envious of others and believe others envy them.
Behave in an arrogant way, brag a lot and come across as conceited.
Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office.
At the same time, people with narcissistic personality disorder have trouble handling anything they view as criticism. They can:

Become impatient or angry when they don't receive special recognition or treatment.
Have major problems interacting with others and easily feel slighted.
React with rage or contempt and try to belittle other people to make themselves appear superior.
Have difficulty managing their emotions and behavior.
Experience major problems dealing with stress and adapting to change.
Withdraw from or avoid situations in which they might fail.
Feel depressed and moody because they fall short of perfection.
Have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, humiliation and fear of being exposed as a failure.


Doesn't sound like it makes for a happy life.

[Andad]

How do you handle all that Steve?

[Moondoggy]

Originally Posted by Speedbird-1

"I'm not vain, but, my god, I've every right, to be".




Symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder and how severe they are can vary.
People with the disorder can:

Have an unreasonably high sense of self-importance and require constant, excessive admiration.
Feel that they deserve privileges and special treatment.
Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements.
Make achievements and talents seem bigger than they are.
Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate.
Believe they are superior to others and can only spend time with or be understood by equally special people.
Be critical of and look down on people they feel are not important.
Expect special favors and expect other people to do what they want without questioning them.
Take advantage of others to get what they want.
Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others.
Be envious of others and believe others envy them.
Behave in an arrogant way, brag a lot and come across as conceited.
Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office.
At the same time, people with narcissistic personality disorder have trouble handling anything they view as criticism. They can:

Become impatient or angry when they don't receive special recognition or treatment.
Have major problems interacting with others and easily feel slighted.
React with rage or contempt and try to belittle other people to make themselves appear superior.
Have difficulty managing their emotions and behavior.
Experience major problems dealing with stress and adapting to change.
Withdraw from or avoid situations in which they might fail.
Feel depressed and moody because they fall short of perfection.
Have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, humiliation and fear of being exposed as a failure.


Doesn't sound like it makes for a happy life.

You nailed it. I have little sympathy not sure that’s good or bad.

[Moondoggy]

Originally Posted by Andad

How do you handle all that Steve?

He can now, just let it all out in a post. Geez.

[Speedbird-1]

Originally Posted by Andad

How do you handle all that Steve?

I think of you mate, and I realise how lucky I am!

[Andad]

How DO you handle that Steve?

Not how do YOU.

[Speedbird-1]

Originally Posted by Andad

How DO you handle that Steve?

Not how do YOU.

Oh, you mean; "How, does one, handle that, Steve?"

You've been away too long, Edward. You seem to have forgotten, how to communicate, in English.

[Andad]

My apologies.

English is not my first language.

ps. Edward Charles Stablewski.

[Speedbird-1]

Originally Posted by Andad

My apologies.

English is not my first language.

ps. Edward Charles Stablewski.

No prob's, Mate. I forgot, about your Welsh heritage.

[Speedbird-1]

Originally Posted by Andad

My apologies.

English is not my first language.

ps. Edward Charles Stablewski.

Nor, your second, it seems!
No prob's, Mate. I forgot, about your Welsh heritage.




Hope you are all well, down there, Eddie.

[Andad]

All good thanks Steve.

Weather is changing, the trees know it and the rain on the east coast is unbelievable.

Still 24C today though.

Some history for you:

Dad was born in France.
His dad was Polish.
Dad was repatriated to the UK after joining up with the British army.
Dad’s brother, my uncle Jean Stablewski (know as Jean Stablinski because the Americans had an issue spelling and pronouncing Stablewski) was a world champion cyclist and quite well known in France.
At my age I need my electric bicycle.

BTW I attended the Aberdeen Grammar School for 11 years.

Did you go to school where you lived?



Hope you are all well over there.

E