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Old 21 May 2024, 03:19 AM   #1
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A small observations about the 3235 movement in my Datejust

I've read numerous times that I need to fully wind the watch (40 - 45 turns) before measuring it on the timegrapher. First measurement seems to be always dial up. For a 32xx movement at 53 degree lift angle the maximum is around 270 amplitude. That's mostly what's accepted. I did that last night to my 4 year old watch. And it reached no more than 250's. Other positions showed 190's to 220's. So naturally I got worried thinking the good old bug has finally infected my watch as well. But when i woke up this morning to remeasure it showed 265 dial up. And I've worn it few hours now and it showed a healthy 270 to 275 amplitude. What am I missing? So if you measure it right after fully winding it then it'll show lower amplitude? But measuring it after wearing it is more accurate? In other words, should I let the watch "settle in" for few hours before measuring? Should I leave it on the timegrapher for at least 10 to 15 minutes to get an accurate reading? Maybe getting a timegrapher was not a good idea... haha.

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A small observations about the 3235 movement in my Datejust

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So if you measure it right after fully winding it then it'll show lower amplitude? But measuring it after wearing it is more accurate? In other words, should I let the watch "settle in" for few hours before measuring? Should I leave it on the timegrapher for at least 10 to 15 minutes to get an accurate reading?
No, No, No, Yes.
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Old 21 May 2024, 06:29 AM   #4
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No, No, No, Yes.
Then may I ask you what you think is happening with my watch? No problems or early sign of low amplitude/losing time coming ahead in the near future?
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Old 21 May 2024, 07:17 AM   #5
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I've read numerous times that I need to fully wind the watch (40 - 45 turns) before measuring it on the timegrapher. First measurement seems to be always dial up. For a 32xx movement at 53 degree lift angle the maximum is around 270 amplitude. That's mostly what's accepted. I did that last night to my 4 year old watch. And it reached no more than 250's. Other positions showed 190's to 220's. So naturally I got worried thinking the good old bug has finally infected my watch as well. But when i woke up this morning to remeasure it showed 265 dial up. And I've worn it few hours now and it showed a healthy 270 to 275 amplitude. What am I missing? So if you measure it right after fully winding it then it'll show lower amplitude? But measuring it after wearing it is more accurate? In other words, should I let the watch "settle in" for few hours before measuring? Should I leave it on the timegrapher for at least 10 to 15 minutes to get an accurate reading? Maybe getting a timegrapher was not a good idea... haha.
In theory and assuming the watch is mechanically sound and you are sufficiently active.
It should(for the most part) be in the fully wound condition for the vast bulk of the day. That's your starting point.
Unless the watch is losing time so much that you are noticing it, i wouldn't necessarily be inclined to be at all concerned.
Use the Timegrapher as you see fit but seriously, i wouldn't use it unless i had reason to, or periodically every 6 months or so playing around a tracking things, or until before the warranty ran out just in case
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In theory and assuming the watch is mechanically sound and you are sufficiently active.
It should(for the most part) be in the fully wound condition for the vast bulk of the day. That's your starting point.
Unless the watch is losing time so much that you are noticing it, i wouldn't necessarily be inclined to be at all concerned.
Use the Timegrapher as you see fit but seriously, i wouldn't use it unless i had reason to, or periodically every 6 months or so playing around a tracking things, or until before the warranty ran out just in case
Thank you for the insight. I've owned this watch for the last two of the four years since it left the AD. It loses or gains about 1 second a day. It's been pretty much perfect. I put it back on the timegrapher just now and it's fluctuating between 265 to 275... even up to 279. I'm sure i have nothing to worry about but honestly all this talk about low amplitude and sudden loss of time has put a squirrel running in the back of my head... haha. I don't do that with my other three Datejusts (two 3135 and one 3035). But for some reason I wonder about this 3235 watch. I rarely use the timegrapher but i just wanted to use it again last night. Maybe i shouldn't have.
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I think you should carry the timeographer with you so the next time someone asks you the time, you can say “oh it’s 3:11pm with 265 amplitude in the upright position.”
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