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Armis · 3 July 2024, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mickyd329

I had to really let these new releases sink in for a bit. I'm really starting to like the new SS version. I prefer the old ceramic over the new, though. Going to request the SS version and see how that conversation goes..

Calmer heads prevail

I did indeed have a reaction to the initial pictures and unexpected change. But seeing live pictures has been winning me over. Someone else summarized it perfectly by describing the old gen as more alluring, while the new gen is more gorgeous.

Steele · 3 July 2024, 11:54 PM

Ummmm. I like the older 15407 better than the new version. I feel the DB is now lost and added an extra layer of intricately connected color and metal types made the dial pop

NOW the new version blends together and loses the depth of the 15407 that made that dial amazing.

PP&AP · 4 July 2024, 01:56 AM

Are we sure these are the new versions we have been waiting for and not a farewell tour of the current movement? I heard the new openworked might get pushed to next year, so a July release seems odd to me.

Based on the current pics I’ve seen, I prefer all 3 of the old versions to the new lineup. The missing bridge contrast makes a bit difference I think.

HurricaneHarry · 4 July 2024, 01:16 PM

They’re all stunning. I’m excited to see real pictures of the new ceramic and yellow gold.

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conkers · 8 July 2024, 08:06 PM

Having now seen them all in the flesh I would only consider the yellow gold version and feel the original steel and ceramic versions are much nicer in my view than the new ones in those materials. Reason: the gold movements are too uniform (ie monotone) and as a result look “flat” and slightly lack the visual depth of the anthracite versions.

Just my view of course.

GW44 · 9 July 2024, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by conkers

Having now seen them all in the flesh I would only consider the yellow gold version and feel the original steel and ceramic versions are much nicer in my view than the new ones in those materials. Reason: the gold movements are too uniform (ie monotone) and as a result look “flat” and slightly lack the visual depth of the anthracite versions.

Just my view of course.

I can see what you mean here Roger, but I'd still love to see both "old" and "new" (together if possible) before deciding.

Will you go for the Yellow Gold one?

conkers · 10 July 2024, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GW44

I can see what you mean here Roger, but I'd still love to see both "old" and "new" (together if possible) before deciding.

Will you go for the Yellow Gold one?

No I won’t Gareth I already have the original steel and the frosted white gold versions so don’t want or need a third. I am not a huge YG fan but of the three new ones it is my preferred model for the aforementioned reason.

Armis · 10 July 2024, 03:21 PM

I’m still processing the visual effect of each piece, but it just occurred to me: isn’t the dial of the yellow gold essentially the same as the 15305 openwork?

The hands on the current YG version is brighter, but the remainder is very very close. Again, just going on picture comparisons for now.

GW44 · 11 July 2024, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by conkers

No I won’t Gareth I already have the original steel and the frosted white gold versions so don’t want or need a third. I am not a huge YG fan but of the three new ones it is my preferred model for the aforementioned reason.

Understood Roger.

Your frosted White gold must be incredible.

conkers · 11 July 2024, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GW44

Understood Roger.

Your frosted White gold must be incredible.

Quite bling! Some photos on my IG. Don’t wear it much.Was a surprise allocation from AP on my birthday in 2019. Good old days!

Vince_76 · 9 July 2024, 02:06 AM

Live video comparison. Best I’ve seen.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C89au...RlODBiNWFlZA==

messikens · 9 July 2024, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince_76

Live video comparison. Best I’ve seen.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C89au...RlODBiNWFlZA==

Very cool comparison vid, thank you.
Not like I'm ever going to be offered one but having seen the videos I prefer the older ones.

The new ones are of course nice but I think the rose gold is way too blingy and screams too much "look I have an AP"!!! Of course I assume for a certain clientele that's part of the appeal.

Nothing stealthy about it at all. Now if rose gold would be switched out with sand gold that may be a different story...

Vince_76 · 9 July 2024, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by messikens

Very cool comparison vid, thank you.
Not like I'm ever going to be offered one but having seen the videos I prefer the older ones.

The new ones are of course nice but I think the rose gold is way too blingy and screams too much "look I have an AP"!!! Of course I assume for a certain clientele that's part of the appeal.

Nothing stealthy about it at all. Now if rose gold would be switched out with sand gold that may be a different story...

I’m with you on that! I like the relatively lowkey nature and aesthetics of the prior 15407/15416. The new SS is the nicest one IMO but it’s pretty loud for me with all the gold OW components.

HurricaneHarry · 9 July 2024, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince_76

Live video comparison. Best I’ve seen.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C89au...RlODBiNWFlZA==

The yellow gold might be my favourite!

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GW44 · 9 July 2024, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince_76

Live video comparison. Best I’ve seen.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C89au...RlODBiNWFlZA==

Shame they were on a 7 year old's wrist

Napaswar · 9 July 2024, 08:42 PM

It's entertaining for me to see the contrast on Ceramic piece. With limited 150 pcs, they are definitely more difficult to get than the current 15416ce.

iEric · 10 July 2024, 03:20 PM

Found a nice side by side video of the CE’s…. here’s a screen shot, maybe someone can help me out. It’s the 6th video in his reels. (not my Instagram)

VogelPhoenix · 12 July 2024, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by iEric

Found a nice side by side video of the CE’s…. here’s a screen shot, maybe someone can help me out. It’s the 6th video in his reels. (not my Instagram)

Totally different watches (or at least as different as they could possibly be with the same case and same basic movement architecture).

Armis · 12 July 2024, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

Totally different watches (or at least as different as they could possibly be with the same case and same basic movement architecture).

It appears that their use of gold does seem to accentuate the overall openworked architecture. Admittedly, in the metal the previous anthracite versions demonstrate the openworkings nicely, so I am curious to see what the gold effect is IRL compared to my impression from pictures.

conkers · 12 July 2024, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Armis

It appears that their use of gold does seem to accentuate the overall openworked architecture.

Having seen them I would say the opposite.

Armis · 12 July 2024, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by conkers

Having seen them I would say the opposite.

Ugh, that’s sobering to read.

Leungjay23 · 12 July 2024, 01:23 AM

May I ask whether AP is discontinuing existing 15407OR or it will continue to produce? Thanks

Gandor · 12 July 2024, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Leungjay23

May I ask whether AP is discontinuing existing 15407OR or it will continue to produce? Thanks

This looks like a farewell batch to get rid of the remaining movements. We’ll probably see the new architecture for the 150th.

PP&AP · 12 July 2024, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Gandor

This looks like a farewell batch to get rid of the remaining movements. We’ll probably see the new architecture for the 150th.

This is my expectation as well, though I haven't confirmed it yet

VogelPhoenix · 12 July 2024, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Leungjay23

May I ask whether AP is discontinuing existing 15407OR or it will continue to produce? Thanks

I was told that the prior models are discontinued.

Leungjay23 · 12 July 2024, 04:56 PM

Personally I love the bridge in the old model and the overall look is stunning. The new gold dial looks nice but just from the picture there may be not enough of depth and contrast. And that is why I like 15407 more than the 39mm jumbo Openwork.

johnsonsxusfrt · 13 July 2024, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Leungjay23

Personally I love the bridge in the old model and the overall look is stunning. The new gold dial looks nice but just from the picture there may be not enough of depth and contrast. And that is why I like 15407 more than the 39mm jumbo Openwork.

Agree, the gold bridge against the dark grey dial is sublime, IMO it makes the watch

Mbbgysam · 14 July 2024, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Leungjay23

Personally I love the bridge in the old model and the overall look is stunning. The new gold dial looks nice but just from the picture there may be not enough of depth and contrast. And that is why I like 15407 more than the 39mm jumbo Openwork.

Agree on both fronts. I turned down the 16204 for this exact reason. I think the original 15407 movement is perfection :)

7sins · 18 July 2024, 10:15 AM

Utterly sickening these are already on the grey market, only a few weeks after release.

mickyd329 · 18 July 2024, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 7sins

Utterly sickening these are already on the grey market, only a few weeks after release.

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8 July 2024, 08:06 PM	#5
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10 July 2024, 03:20 PM	#17
iEric "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Cypress, CA Posts: 4	Found a nice side by side video of the CE’s…. here’s a screen shot, maybe someone can help me out. It’s the 6th video in his reels. (not my Instagram) Attached Images

18 July 2024, 10:15 AM	#29
7sins "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: B. Location: Beverly Hills, CA Posts: 3,621	Utterly sickening these are already on the grey market, only a few weeks after release. __________________ Richard Mille RG RM030 \|\| Richard Mille RM72ti \|\| AP 26240 50TH Green Royal Oak Chrono \|\| AP Royal Oak Off Shore Gulf Blue 26238 \|\| AP Royal Oak Blue JUMBO SS 15202ST \|\| AP ROO Diver Green 15720ST \|\| ♕ Rolex Platinum Daytona Diamond 116506 \|\| Cartier Santos

3 July 2024, 11:54 PM	#2
Steele "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2023 Location: Florida Watch: All of them Posts: 800	Ummmm. I like the older 15407 better than the new version. I feel the DB is now lost and added an extra layer of intricately connected color and metal types made the dial pop NOW the new version blends together and loses the depth of the 15407 that made that dial amazing.

4 July 2024, 01:56 AM	#3
PP&AP "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: US Watch: 15407 Posts: 93	Are we sure these are the new versions we have been waiting for and not a farewell tour of the current movement? I heard the new openworked might get pushed to next year, so a July release seems odd to me. Based on the current pics I’ve seen, I prefer all 3 of the old versions to the new lineup. The missing bridge contrast makes a bit difference I think.

4 July 2024, 01:16 PM	#4
HurricaneHarry "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Europe Posts: 179	They’re all stunning. I’m excited to see real pictures of the new ceramic and yellow gold. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10 July 2024, 03:21 PM	#8
Armis "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: . Posts: 1,584	I’m still processing the visual effect of each piece, but it just occurred to me: isn’t the dial of the yellow gold essentially the same as the 15305 openwork? The hands on the current YG version is brighter, but the remainder is very very close. Again, just going on picture comparisons for now.

9 July 2024, 08:42 PM	#16
Napaswar "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 70	It's entertaining for me to see the contrast on Ceramic piece. With limited 150 pcs, they are definitely more difficult to get than the current 15416ce.

12 July 2024, 01:23 AM	#22
Leungjay23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2023 Location: HK Posts: 10	May I ask whether AP is discontinuing existing 15407OR or it will continue to produce? Thanks

12 July 2024, 04:56 PM	#26
Leungjay23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2023 Location: HK Posts: 10	Personally I love the bridge in the old model and the overall look is stunning. The new gold dial looks nice but just from the picture there may be not enough of depth and contrast. And that is why I like 15407 more than the 39mm jumbo Openwork.

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