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mcjp6 · 26 August 2009, 09:19 PM

learning from our esteemed and knowledgeable buddy Orchi here.

The red sub dial shown here is fake, it may have been a white dial and since repainted in red. on a red sub feet first dial the word "Submariner" is ALWAYS narrower than the Depth Rating "660ft=200m"...

this thread refers http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...ighlight=orchi

seller watch-navi ( 1305 )

ATTENTION to Rolex watch collectors ! Vintage Dial Part for Rolex Submariner Date Ref. 1680 RED !! No Reserve !!

Here is a vintage dial part for the Rolex Submariner Date RED Ref. 1680, has been professionally refinished on the original dial plate, in 27 mm diameter, clean with minimal wear on dial surface, markers are in a dark yellowish patina, dial feet are located at 30 & 52, fit Cal. 1570 movement, signed "SINGER" on back, ideal for restoration project or stock up as parts, selling AS IS.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintag-Dial-Part...d=p3286.c0.m14

TimeToGo · 27 August 2009, 12:08 AM

As the listing reads it was redialed, you bring out a very good point, not discussed in the lisiting...

that the red was most likely added!

Excellent attention to detail!

onkyo · 27 August 2009, 12:19 AM

Agreed Michael..... likely a white 1680 dial repainted red.

I think this is pushing the envelope of his 'professionally refinished' cover ..... to the can IMO.

blaine mattison · 27 August 2009, 01:32 AM

this seller has disclosed it as a repaint, BUT professional
done>>>NOT

.

there is nothing thats EVEN CLOSE on this dial that right besides the
red and white paint!

and willing to bet that the dial has never seen the inside of a
1680 case or touch a 1570 movement

idk01 · 27 August 2009, 02:39 AM

Looks like an attempt to cash in on the vintage market to me, and all it would take is an uneducated buyer to go nutz bidding and this could fetch a hefty price, not on my shift, excellent research guys, this needs to go

idk01 · 27 August 2009, 11:16 PM

Gone

This listing (300341065248) has been removed, or this item is not available.

Orchi · 28 August 2009, 12:49 AM

Err buddies...that's a good call...it's FAKEEEEEE...!

onkyo · 28 August 2009, 06:55 AM

Great work everyone ....

26 August 2009, 09:19 PM	#1
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	Fake 1680 Red Sub Dial learning from our esteemed and knowledgeable buddy Orchi here. The red sub dial shown here is fake, it may have been a white dial and since repainted in red. on a red sub feet first dial the word "Submariner" is ALWAYS narrower than the Depth Rating "660ft=200m"... this thread refers http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...ighlight=orchi seller watch-navi ( 1305 ) ATTENTION to Rolex watch collectors ! Vintage Dial Part for Rolex Submariner Date Ref. 1680 RED !! No Reserve !! Here is a vintage dial part for the Rolex Submariner Date RED Ref. 1680, has been professionally refinished on the original dial plate, in 27 mm diameter, clean with minimal wear on dial surface, markers are in a dark yellowish patina, dial feet are located at 30 & 52, fit Cal. 1570 movement, signed "SINGER" on back, ideal for restoration project or stock up as parts, selling AS IS. http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintag-Dial-Part...d=p3286.c0.m14 Attached Images

27 August 2009, 01:32 AM	#4
blaine mattison "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: blaine Location: memphis Watch: my next find Posts: 1,060	this seller has disclosed it as a repaint, BUT professional done>>>NOT. there is nothing thats EVEN CLOSE on this dial that right besides the red and white paint! and willing to bet that the dial has never seen the inside of a 1680 case or touch a 1570 movement

27 August 2009, 02:39 AM	#5
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Looks like an attempt to cash in on the vintage market to me, and all it would take is an uneducated buyer to go nutz bidding and this could fetch a hefty price, not on my shift, excellent research guys, this needs to go __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

27 August 2009, 11:16 PM	#6
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Gone This listing (300341065248) has been removed, or this item is not available. __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

27 August 2009, 12:08 AM	#2
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	As the listing reads it was redialed, you bring out a very good point, not discussed in the lisiting... that the red was most likely added! Excellent attention to detail!

27 August 2009, 12:19 AM	#3
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	Agreed Michael..... likely a white 1680 dial repainted red. I think this is pushing the envelope of his 'professionally refinished' cover ..... to the can IMO.

28 August 2009, 12:49 AM	#7
Orchi Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Malaysia Posts: 2,934	Err buddies...that's a good call...it's FAKEEEEEE...!

28 August 2009, 06:55 AM	#8
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	Great work everyone ....

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