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Old 21 September 2024, 05:14 PM   #1
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If anyone could answer my query I'd be grateful. I have a Sea Dweller with the 3235. Not worn often and usually for just a day or two at a time. After it has run down, I can put it on my wrist for any length of time and the second hand fails to move. I appreciate I need to wind the watch, but every other automatic watch I have will start to function with very little physical movement required. I have taken it to the AD and he just told me I need to wind the watch to get it started. Does this sound accurate? Appreciate your time.

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Old 21 September 2024, 06:23 PM   #2
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Hello All,

If anyone could answer my query I'd be grateful. I have a Sea Dweller with the 3235. Not worn often and usually for just a day or two at a time. After it has run down, I can put it on my wrist for any length of time and the second hand fails to move. I appreciate I need to wind the watch, but every other automatic watch I have will start to function with very little physical movement required. I have taken it to the AD and he just told me I need to wind the watch to get it started. Does this sound accurate? Appreciate your time.

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Over the years and the various watches that have come and gone, some of my Rolexes would start ticking when worn from an empty power reserve but most behaved like yours. I don't have any 3235s now but from memory they either needed a wind or a gentle swirl to start ticking. My Tudor sometimes needed a gentle tap too.

Its quite normal and nothing to worry about.
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Old 21 September 2024, 08:18 PM   #3
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Hello All,

If anyone could answer my query I'd be grateful. I have a Sea Dweller with the 3235. Not worn often and usually for just a day or two at a time. After it has run down, I can put it on my wrist for any length of time and the second hand fails to move. I appreciate I need to wind the watch, but every other automatic watch I have will start to function with very little physical movement required. I have taken it to the AD and he just told me I need to wind the watch to get it started. Does this sound accurate? Appreciate your time.

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The mainspring is not like a instant electronic light switch, you have wind power into mainspring to get enough torque to overcome the inherent friction in pallet fork to start the balance wheel in all mechanical movements. And they all do vary somewhat no matter the brand or movement, so all normal nothing to worry about, some might even need a gentle shake or swirl to start ticking after winding.
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Old 21 September 2024, 08:19 PM   #4
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Over the years and the various watches that have come and gone, some of my Rolexes would start ticking when worn from an empty power reserve but most behaved like yours. I don't have any 3235s now but from memory they either needed a wind or a gentle swirl to start ticking. My Tudor sometimes needed a gentle tap too.

Its quite normal and nothing to worry about.
Did you sell the CHNR Scott?
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Old 21 September 2024, 11:09 PM   #5
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Wear it every day, all day. It seems like a lot of movement “problems” and power reserve “issues” postings here include the phrases “a day or 2 at a time” or “I wear it once every 2 weeks”. They are designed to be worn, not sit.
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Old 22 September 2024, 12:48 AM   #6
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Old 22 September 2024, 01:08 AM   #7
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The mainspring is not like a instant electronic light switch, you have wind power into mainspring to get enough torque to overcome the inherent friction in pallet fork to start the balance wheel in all mechanical movements. And they all do vary somewhat no matter the brand or movement, so all normal nothing to worry about, some might even need a gentle shake or swirl to start ticking after winding.
Peter, good explanation as usual.
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Old 22 September 2024, 01:37 AM   #8
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Thanks all for the replies, I can now wear it without concern
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Old 22 September 2024, 01:40 AM   #9
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Old 22 September 2024, 07:04 AM   #10
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Thanks all for the replies, I can now wear it without concern
Yes, it sounds reasonably normal to me.

A few things to note.
As a Swiss movement, it's supposed to be able to self start.

There is a sliding action between the Pallet jewels on the lever and the Escape wheel teeth. Depending on their relative positions when the movement stops, they can sort of stick/jam slightly due to friction and all it can take is a slight movement of the parts or a tap of a finger on the watch to get them unlocked and sliding again.
I believe that winding more power into the Mainspring can actually jam them together more due to the increased torque until they can start to slip thereby releasing the friction.

I have found that a freshly serviced or brand new watch will inherently be more inclined to "self start".
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Old 22 September 2024, 07:47 AM   #11
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Both of my 32XX watches require the boost of a few winds to get started from a dead stop. It’s never bothered me an they both keep good time.
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Old 22 September 2024, 02:32 PM   #12
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After it has run down, I can put it on my wrist for any length of time and the second hand fails to move.
I don't think it should be like that. After wearing it for a few minutes, the watch should start working.
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Old 22 September 2024, 11:09 PM   #13
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Before being worn for the first time, or if it has stopped, a Rolex watch must be wound manually in order to function correctly and precisely. To wind the watch manually, unscrew the winding crown completely, then turn it several times clockwise (turning in the other direction has no effect). A minimum of 25 turns is required for adequate partial winding. Carefully screw the crown back down against the case to ensure waterproofness. The watch will then be wound automatically as long as it is worn on the wrist.
Rolex's own words, and I think puts this issue to rest. This isn't a $100 Seiko 5 (though I love those too).

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Over 30 Rolexes over the years and never had anything like this happen. Never had a 32xx
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I did Brian, yes.

Beautiful watch, but having the 116509 changed my outlook. That and not being fully confident in the 32xx movements (yet)

It made way for my Santos
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Wind + a "flick" of the wrist for me is often the only way to get my pieces going. 3185/3135/3130 etc.
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Yeah, if my watches aren’t running, I give them a good kick in the ass wind and them about 40 to 50 times. It doesn’t matter if it’s a 31xx, a 32xx, or an Omega. I always thought this is what you’re supposed to do.


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