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brainbizz · 16 October 2009, 12:01 PM

I definitely agree that the depth rating is absolutely silly but I just like the watch. Initially did not care for it much but once I put it on i loved it. I typically wear PAMs so the size is appealing to me. Sure it may be over engineered but if one likes the product who cares. I own several daytonas and chronos which I have never used the chrono function doesnt mean I dont like the watch for some engineering or function which I will never appreciate fully.

Zgar · 16 October 2009, 12:27 PM

Hey guys big or bigger watches aren't for everyone I have owned many Rolex and now have a DSSD an I love it. I am also 6'0'' tall and weigh 195 lbs. If I were 5'8'' I may not like it on me. and thats ok that's why there are so many different models out there... I think the Panerai 44 mm looks alot bigger because the dial is bigger that the DSSD. the DSSD is tall though but very comfortable IMO.. People tend to wear what they like and in my opinion they are all very nice watches

Bon Temps · 16 October 2009, 12:29 PM

I recently used my DSSD in trade toward the purchase of a new Rolex. I think it is a great watch. What attracted me to it initially was the technology, amazing. I also think it looked great and it was more accurate than any of my other watches. In the end I just couldn't get comfortable with it on my wrist and I am one who likes to wear all of my watches. If I had money to burn I would have kept it and let it sit in the safe. To me watch selection is a very personal thing and the only thing that matters is how it makes it's owner feel.

Mike O · 16 October 2009, 03:27 PM

Depth rating on almost every watch made is already overkill.... 12,800, 2,000, 600 feet. 99% of people that are buying dive watches do it because they love the watch for whatever reason it is that makes the watch call out to them.

Like BigHat said, the Deepsea is a hit for some and a miss for others. If you love it buy one, if not get something else. That is why many watch brands have a following. The deepsea is a watch that shocked the Rolex following. It is outside the box thinking from what people are used to seeing.

Some think Rolex made a watch that is now the undisputed king of the ocean, and others feel rolex went in the wrong direction. That is why you can still get a Sub, that will go deeper than most of the population will ever take it.....

camster · 16 October 2009, 05:04 PM

I tried one on about 2 months ago,and now I have started a secret fund to purchase that beast of a watch. It absolutely makes my SS TOG look like a period at the end of a sentence. But it just feels so good on the wrist. A thing of human created beauty. I hope to own one soon.

Singslinger · 16 October 2009, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike O

Depth rating on almost every watch made is already overkill.... 12,800, 2,000, 600 feet. 99% of people that are buying dive watches do it because they love the watch for whatever reason it is that makes the watch call out to them.

Like BigHat said, the Deepsea is a hit for some and a miss for others. If you love it buy one, if not get something else. That is why many watch brands have a following. The deepsea is a watch that shocked the Rolex following. It is outside the box thinking from what people are used to seeing.

Some think Rolex made a watch that is now the undisputed king of the ocean, and others feel rolex went in the wrong direction. That is why you can still get a Sub, that will go deeper than most of the population will ever take it.....

Agree 100%, especially the part about outside-the-box thinking from what people were used to seeing. There were many Rolex fans who, having gotten used to the 40mm Sub/SD/GMT look, were suddenly confronted by this beast of a 43mm watch and so reacted with shock/surprise and in some cases, revulsion.

Funny thing is, I don't think Panerai fans were overly shocked/surprised/repulsed when the brand went in the other direction, and produced a Luminor Marina 40mm version after establishing its name as a maker of 44mm watches.

Deep Sea · 16 October 2009, 10:07 PM

For those who haven't seen it, here's a link to the Watchtime article on the DSSD, including techincal info & testing info on depth.

If you haven't read it, take a little time to do so; it may answer some of the questions re weight, thickness, etc. Good reference info, if nothing else.

http://www.watchbizz.com/archive/wt_...T_0209_094.pdf

wsaraceni · 16 October 2009, 10:09 PM

the DSSD is the only rolex i've ever tried on. since its the only one i could get the clasp over my hand when fully extended. having 8.5 - 9" wrists suck.

Deep Sea · 16 October 2009, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigHat

Hi Eddie,
Late getting back to TRF. You make good points...as usual... but I still disagree. Maybe "over-engineer to the point of stupidity" just gets people's backs up. Of course, if I stated it a different way you'd still disgree with me so why bother.

I along with others have been debating the pros and cons of the SDDS since the first peek at the pics from Basel. Really nothing to say that hasn't been said before. Bottom line is it's a "hit" for some and a "miss" for others. As I understand it from discussions with ADs (one with a national presence) they aren't selling very well. The most likely reason (IMO) is that they're too big for a significant piece of the watch buying demographic. Thus, striving for a meaningless depth rating cost at the price of excessive size has cost them sales.

Finally, as I stated before, I don't get upset if others disagree with my conclusions regarding the watch. I'm happy for anyone that gets happy from buying ANY watch.

I had a similar conversation this summer with a fairly high level person in one of Rolex's biggest accounts. His ascertation wasn't the size as much as the price of the watch, affecting the sales numbers.

Considering it is a $3000 premium over the previous model, many folks could not justify the increase, and simply didn't care (and/or understand) about the newer/higher technology stuffed into the watch.

Joe Watchbuyer looks at the $9000+ price tag, and then looks at a $6000 Sub, and doesn't see and extra $3K worth of value to him in the DSSD.

Easy answer...the Sub will win nearly every time with the average person looking for a sporty Rolex.

Cheers!

wsaraceni · 16 October 2009, 11:50 PM

[QUOTE=Deep Sea;1403213]
Considering it is a $3000 premium over the previous model, many folks could not justify the increase, and simply didn't care (and/or understand) about the newer/higher technology stuffed into the watch. UOTE]

i wonder if that is because of the fact that technology is useless for the average person. first, i highly doubt anyone is going deep enough to test the ratings on any of these watches. especially not recreationally. then add a helium release valve, that unless you get lowered in a chamber and are living in it, another useless feature.

so unless you like the style ( I do) or want the bragging rights that the watch can do more than the person wearing it ever could do, there is no added value.

i actually like the DSSD more. because its different enough from the Submariner that if i could afford, id get both. whereas the seadweller wasnt different enough for me to want both.

tthopp05 · 17 October 2009, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigHat

Already have a Sub -- thanks. Happy that you like your SDDS, but that doesn't mean others have to and can't discuss what we don't like about it. If you want to take it personally, well that's your issue.

Suggest you study up if you think your SDDS with "been to that depth." Also if you think your COSC certified Panny running 30 secs off each day is something typical you'd be wrong there too. Sad if that's the case, but an occasional Rolex watches needs immediate regulation as well.

Oh and why are you still listing and showing the 328 in your avatar if you don't own it and find it to be part of a poor brand?

Is there something you would like to share with the rest of the forum to prove that the watches are not tested as stated by Rolex and Watchtime.If not, maybe you should "STUDY UP" before suggesting that Rolex and other very respectable companys are misrepersenting the facts.

Breakerone · 17 October 2009, 01:47 AM

Seriously, guys. There should be enough education on this board to not fall for the "this watch ist awful"-trap discussion.
There are no awful watches and there are millions of awful watches. It all depends on the point of view, and arguing about has nothing else but potential for bad words.
I also own the DS and I love it. I not only love the watch, its proportions, its design and feel, I also love exactly what you guys are judging.

I love the fact that it costs a lot more then the old model, justified only by useless features (except the glidelock, which is incredible), I love the fact that its so high AND heavy AND big that many people cant wear it, especially lots of regular Rolex owners.

And why? Because its the first Rolex which totally hits my taste but NOT everyone elses, like a daytona. A daytona is great. No doubt about it. Refined over the years, its the center of sales for Rolex, as they only give them out with super unneccessary bundles of other watches to dealers. Thats why no one sells you a brand new daytona under list price. Not only because everyone wants it, but also because they hate ordering them and need to be compensated for the other forced buys which wont sell that easy.

The daytona was the only Rolex I ever liked, but I never wanted to buy one, cause everyone and his mother has one or wants one (talking about watch enthusiasts with money of course, the guys without money like to wear it as a fake).

So, when I am asked, I'd give Rolex a lot of credit for going into something different, clearly knowing it will cause discussions and turn off some of the classic Rolex owners.

I admit I also like the submariner, but when I first asked my friend to show me his and he took if off his wrist, it felt like a toy in my hands (I alsmost asked if its fake). So I could also start with rants and call it lightweight like plastic, like a playmobil watch compared to the DS.

Did I tell him? No, of course not, he loves his watch, and he spent a good amount of money on it, and every man who buys watches like that, finds some sort of identification in wearing it. So why express my opinion in a very clear way, when I know there will be a bit of a pain for him when he hears that.

No matter how hard you think you are. If someone tells you that something which matters to you is totally shitty, a part of you will be hurt. Writing a seperated review and pointing things out which you dont like is something else entirely then pointing to someones wrist, saying: omg, I never thought someone would really be stupid enough to fall for that...

1000ftSub · 17 October 2009, 01:56 AM

I love the DeepSea but the weight can take a little getting use to.

16 October 2009, 10:07 PM	#37
Deep Sea "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Martin Location: NC Watch: A Rolex or two Posts: 952	For those who haven't seen it, here's a link to the Watchtime article on the DSSD, including techincal info & testing info on depth. If you haven't read it, take a little time to do so; it may answer some of the questions re weight, thickness, etc. Good reference info, if nothing else. http://www.watchbizz.com/archive/wt_...T_0209_094.pdf __________________ Deep Sea A few Rolex & a Tudor Sub An Omega & a bunch of Breitling

16 October 2009, 12:01 PM	#31
brainbizz Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 608	I definitely agree that the depth rating is absolutely silly but I just like the watch. Initially did not care for it much but once I put it on i loved it. I typically wear PAMs so the size is appealing to me. Sure it may be over engineered but if one likes the product who cares. I own several daytonas and chronos which I have never used the chrono function doesnt mean I dont like the watch for some engineering or function which I will never appreciate fully.

16 October 2009, 12:27 PM	#32
Zgar Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 459	Hey guys big or bigger watches aren't for everyone I have owned many Rolex and now have a DSSD an I love it. I am also 6'0'' tall and weigh 195 lbs. If I were 5'8'' I may not like it on me. and thats ok that's why there are so many different models out there... I think the Panerai 44 mm looks alot bigger because the dial is bigger that the DSSD. the DSSD is tall though but very comfortable IMO.. People tend to wear what they like and in my opinion they are all very nice watches

16 October 2009, 12:29 PM	#33
Bon Temps "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: LA Watch: SD43 Posts: 360	I recently used my DSSD in trade toward the purchase of a new Rolex. I think it is a great watch. What attracted me to it initially was the technology, amazing. I also think it looked great and it was more accurate than any of my other watches. In the end I just couldn't get comfortable with it on my wrist and I am one who likes to wear all of my watches. If I had money to burn I would have kept it and let it sit in the safe. To me watch selection is a very personal thing and the only thing that matters is how it makes it's owner feel.

16 October 2009, 03:27 PM	#34
Mike O Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 46	Depth rating on almost every watch made is already overkill.... 12,800, 2,000, 600 feet. 99% of people that are buying dive watches do it because they love the watch for whatever reason it is that makes the watch call out to them. Like BigHat said, the Deepsea is a hit for some and a miss for others. If you love it buy one, if not get something else. That is why many watch brands have a following. The deepsea is a watch that shocked the Rolex following. It is outside the box thinking from what people are used to seeing. Some think Rolex made a watch that is now the undisputed king of the ocean, and others feel rolex went in the wrong direction. That is why you can still get a Sub, that will go deeper than most of the population will ever take it.....

16 October 2009, 05:04 PM	#35
camster "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Maine Posts: 55	I tried one on about 2 months ago,and now I have started a secret fund to purchase that beast of a watch. It absolutely makes my SS TOG look like a period at the end of a sentence. But it just feels so good on the wrist. A thing of human created beauty. I hope to own one soon.

16 October 2009, 10:09 PM	#38
wsaraceni Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: US Posts: 169	the DSSD is the only rolex i've ever tried on. since its the only one i could get the clasp over my hand when fully extended. having 8.5 - 9" wrists suck.

16 October 2009, 11:50 PM	#40
wsaraceni Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: US Posts: 169	[QUOTE=Deep Sea;1403213] Considering it is a $3000 premium over the previous model, many folks could not justify the increase, and simply didn't care (and/or understand) about the newer/higher technology stuffed into the watch. UOTE] i wonder if that is because of the fact that technology is useless for the average person. first, i highly doubt anyone is going deep enough to test the ratings on any of these watches. especially not recreationally. then add a helium release valve, that unless you get lowered in a chamber and are living in it, another useless feature. so unless you like the style ( I do) or want the bragging rights that the watch can do more than the person wearing it ever could do, there is no added value. i actually like the DSSD more. because its different enough from the Submariner that if i could afford, id get both. whereas the seadweller wasnt different enough for me to want both.

17 October 2009, 01:47 AM	#42
Breakerone Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Germany Watch: PAM 214,268, DSSD Posts: 27	Seriously, guys. There should be enough education on this board to not fall for the "this watch ist awful"-trap discussion. There are no awful watches and there are millions of awful watches. It all depends on the point of view, and arguing about has nothing else but potential for bad words. I also own the DS and I love it. I not only love the watch, its proportions, its design and feel, I also love exactly what you guys are judging. I love the fact that it costs a lot more then the old model, justified only by useless features (except the glidelock, which is incredible), I love the fact that its so high AND heavy AND big that many people cant wear it, especially lots of regular Rolex owners. And why? Because its the first Rolex which totally hits my taste but NOT everyone elses, like a daytona. A daytona is great. No doubt about it. Refined over the years, its the center of sales for Rolex, as they only give them out with super unneccessary bundles of other watches to dealers. Thats why no one sells you a brand new daytona under list price. Not only because everyone wants it, but also because they hate ordering them and need to be compensated for the other forced buys which wont sell that easy. The daytona was the only Rolex I ever liked, but I never wanted to buy one, cause everyone and his mother has one or wants one (talking about watch enthusiasts with money of course, the guys without money like to wear it as a fake). So, when I am asked, I'd give Rolex a lot of credit for going into something different, clearly knowing it will cause discussions and turn off some of the classic Rolex owners. I admit I also like the submariner, but when I first asked my friend to show me his and he took if off his wrist, it felt like a toy in my hands (I alsmost asked if its fake). So I could also start with rants and call it lightweight like plastic, like a playmobil watch compared to the DS. Did I tell him? No, of course not, he loves his watch, and he spent a good amount of money on it, and every man who buys watches like that, finds some sort of identification in wearing it. So why express my opinion in a very clear way, when I know there will be a bit of a pain for him when he hears that. No matter how hard you think you are. If someone tells you that something which matters to you is totally shitty, a part of you will be hurt. Writing a seperated review and pointing things out which you dont like is something else entirely then pointing to someones wrist, saying: omg, I never thought someone would really be stupid enough to fall for that...

17 October 2009, 01:56 AM	#43
1000ftSub "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Mike Location: Orlando Posts: 2,471	I love the DeepSea but the weight can take a little getting use to.

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