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JJ Irani · 13 November 2009, 01:23 PM

Two superb watches, both with the Time Zone facility and identical 3186 movements now with the Blue Parachrome spring......and that's where the similarity ends!!

On the one hand we have the stunning and more expensive GMT-IIC with the Ceramic bezel, so easy to handle, the more solid and improved bracelet and clasp as well as the Maxi dial and TRIPLOCK crown!!

On the other hand, we have the much cheaper and more affordable version of the 3186 movement - the now famous Explorer-II which is available in WHITE or BLACK dials. One of the most comfortable Rolexes out there at just 125 grams, this baby can do almost all that his above kissing cousin can, except rotate his bezel!!

The bracelet has hollow links and the clasp is still the same old one (now with a secure lock), but it certainly seems to serve the purpose and is still immensely strong!!

meloncap78 · 13 November 2009, 01:26 PM

Darn it JJ! Your going to make me spend $$

Something about the white dial Exp II calls to me. The GMT IIC is sexy too though. Sigh. I gotta stop looking at posts with photos.

Colnago · 13 November 2009, 01:32 PM

JJ I'm the same but different......only one of mine has the 3186 movement and neither has yellow Gold.........still brilliant pieces and so much to love about either....great travelling partners!!....I have even managed to fit a Jubilee to my Exp. but like you I'd love one now for my GMT

sleddog · 13 November 2009, 01:33 PM

A good comparison JJ......
Only thing is the comparison stops with the movement...!!! Both have the same function,but completely different in looks!!!!
The Exp has a sharp clean look and the GMT is the refined,elegant big brother!!
Just my opinion,I love both,but one is leaps and bounds above he other!!!
Again,congrats on the new Rolex JJ!!

submariner16610 · 13 November 2009, 01:46 PM

nice one jj. i love your 2c tt

Speed · 13 November 2009, 03:06 PM

What about a White-Dialed GMT IIC with a Black Bezel??? Hmm???

onkyo · 13 November 2009, 04:09 PM

Agreed JJ..... IMHO the Exp II is THE MOST COMFORTABLE modern Rolex out there.

bodybump · 13 November 2009, 04:29 PM

This is what i call PASSION ON WATCHES!!!

Andad · 13 November 2009, 04:34 PM

C'mon JJ,

We need one of your special comparison reviews with some pix (in focus).

JJ Irani · 13 November 2009, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directioneng

C'mon JJ,

We need one of your special comparison reviews with some pix (in focus).

Thanks, Eddie. How's Ashley reacting to those Polar pics?

Like I said in my PM to you, I carried out the wiggle and 8-hour jump with one full revolution of the crown tests as you had shown me when you were here - both tests came up aces!!!

slcbbrown · 14 November 2009, 03:45 AM

Just goes to show how much watch you get for the price with an EXP II. Nice comparison.

GerardoG · 14 November 2009, 03:57 AM

JJ: So what is different on the EXPY clasp? Secure lock? Would you mind explaining?

cobblecanyon · 14 November 2009, 04:03 AM

Can't get over how beautiful that TT GMT IIc is...100% convinced that is my next purchase.

JJ Irani · 14 November 2009, 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GerardoG

JJ: So what is different on the EXPY clasp? Secure lock? Would you mind explaining?

Hi Gerardo,

Secure lock is just the normal flip over clip that slots into place after you've locked down the clasp.

Z-Sub · 14 November 2009, 04:34 AM

Love that expy II polar. It's the second Rolex I've ever purchased.....

GerardoG · 14 November 2009, 04:39 AM

Thank you, so it would also be known as Oyster Lock (shorter clasp) vs the sub's Flip Lock (larger clasp)?

JJ Irani · 14 November 2009, 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GerardoG

Thank you, so it would also be known as Oyster Lock (shorter clasp) vs the sub's Flip Lock (larger clasp)?

Correct, but the Sub's bracelet is actually called the OYSTER FLIPLOCK because of the extension diver links!!

GerardoG · 14 November 2009, 04:48 AM

Ok, got it. Thank you!

Mrdi · 14 November 2009, 05:02 AM

The White Explorer II reminds me of a
beautiful "BALD" woman.
And now JJ's gonna dress her up.

13 November 2009, 01:23 PM	#1
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	3186 vs 3186 - Identical, yet so different!! Two superb watches, both with the Time Zone facility and identical 3186 movements now with the Blue Parachrome spring......and that's where the similarity ends!! On the one hand we have the stunning and more expensive GMT-IIC with the Ceramic bezel, so easy to handle, the more solid and improved bracelet and clasp as well as the Maxi dial and TRIPLOCK crown!! On the other hand, we have the much cheaper and more affordable version of the 3186 movement - the now famous Explorer-II which is available in WHITE or BLACK dials. One of the most comfortable Rolexes out there at just 125 grams, this baby can do almost all that his above kissing cousin can, except rotate his bezel!! The bracelet has hollow links and the clasp is still the same old one (now with a secure lock), but it certainly seems to serve the purpose and is still immensely strong!! __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

13 November 2009, 01:32 PM	#3
Colnago "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Bill Hart Location: Richmond, NY, UK Watch: Rlx=3, Tdr=3, Om=3 Posts: 3,053	JJ I'm the same but different......only one of mine has the 3186 movement and neither has yellow Gold.........still brilliant pieces and so much to love about either....great travelling partners!!....I have even managed to fit a Jubilee to my Exp. but like you I'd love one now for my GMT Attached Images __________________ Bill "There's only three kinds of people in this world....those that can count....and those that can't" TRF's "JJ's" Bar & NightClub Patron

13 November 2009, 01:33 PM	#4
sleddog TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,931	A good comparison JJ...... Only thing is the comparison stops with the movement...!!! Both have the same function,but completely different in looks!!!! The Exp has a sharp clean look and the GMT is the refined,elegant big brother!! Just my opinion,I love both,but one is leaps and bounds above he other!!! Again,congrats on the new Rolex JJ!! __________________ He who wears a Rolex is always on time, even when late!! TRF's "After Dark" Bar & Nightclub Patron-Founding Member..

13 November 2009, 04:29 PM	#8
bodybump ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 SubLV41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Oscar Location: Florida Watch: Me!!! Posts: 23,233	This is what i call PASSION ON WATCHES!!! __________________

13 November 2009, 04:34 PM	#9
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,533	C'mon JJ, We need one of your special comparison reviews with some pix (in focus). __________________ E

13 November 2009, 01:26 PM	#2
meloncap78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Joshua Location: Syracuse, NY Watch: LV C Posts: 2,204	Darn it JJ! Your going to make me spend $$ Something about the white dial Exp II calls to me. The GMT IIC is sexy too though. Sigh. I gotta stop looking at posts with photos.

13 November 2009, 01:46 PM	#5
submariner16610 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: united states Watch: submariner,daytona Posts: 707	nice one jj. i love your 2c tt

13 November 2009, 03:06 PM	#6
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	What about a White-Dialed GMT IIC with a Black Bezel??? Hmm???

13 November 2009, 04:09 PM	#7
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	Agreed JJ..... IMHO the Exp II is THE MOST COMFORTABLE modern Rolex out there.

14 November 2009, 03:45 AM	#11
slcbbrown "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: steve Location: dallas area Watch: 50's TT t-bird Posts: 3,689	exp Just goes to show how much watch you get for the price with an EXP II. Nice comparison.

14 November 2009, 03:57 AM	#12
GerardoG Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Real Name: Gerardo Location: Here Watch: ALL of them Posts: 32,098	JJ: So what is different on the EXPY clasp? Secure lock? Would you mind explaining?

14 November 2009, 04:03 AM	#13
cobblecanyon "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: JT Location: Texas Watch: 116710LN, 116610LN Posts: 453	Can't get over how beautiful that TT GMT IIc is...100% convinced that is my next purchase.

14 November 2009, 04:34 AM	#15
Z-Sub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	Love that expy II polar. It's the second Rolex I've ever purchased..... __________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

14 November 2009, 04:39 AM	#16
GerardoG Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Real Name: Gerardo Location: Here Watch: ALL of them Posts: 32,098	Thank you, so it would also be known as Oyster Lock (shorter clasp) vs the sub's Flip Lock (larger clasp)?

14 November 2009, 04:48 AM	#18
GerardoG Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Real Name: Gerardo Location: Here Watch: ALL of them Posts: 32,098	Ok, got it. Thank you!

14 November 2009, 05:02 AM	#19
Mrdi Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Posts: 3,478	The White Explorer II reminds me of a beautiful "BALD" woman. And now JJ's gonna dress her up.

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