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joeychitwood · 24 December 2009, 12:18 AM

I agreed to buy a 16618 Submariner from TheRolex88. It is pictured and described in this ad:

FS: Rolex 18k Gold Submariner 16618 All Blue

I wired cash to him Monday morning. We agreed to ship each other watches involved in the trade before Christmas Eve. I shipped two Rolex watches via FedEx Overnight in trade to him Monday morning. Someone signed for the watches at his address Tuesday morning. The total transaction was for $12,000.

I've have made repeated attempts to contact him by phone and email, but have heard nothing since Sunday. It is now Wednesday. He had no problem communicating with me when he was interested in getting my money and my watches.

What do I do now? I continue to send emails and make phone calls, all of which go to voice mail. How long do I wait before I initiate action, and do I lose valuable time by waiting? I need some advice.

Mosco · 24 December 2009, 12:23 AM

Where is he located?

Nicko · 24 December 2009, 12:31 AM

He is banned here,,,OMG, let' hope everything works out.

valentine · 24 December 2009, 12:33 AM

DUDE! no way! I'd get the authorities and your bank, etc involved ASAP, and where is he located?

valentine · 24 December 2009, 12:33 AM

BTW. report the serial numbers of YOUR watches as stolen ASAP

DAVIDSW · 24 December 2009, 12:33 AM

Take action IMMEDIATELY...

I also agreed to buy the 18k sub from him.... I told him I would fly out there and do a face to face deal with him... He said he was out of town and could not do it.... I was not comfortable with it at all so did not send him payment..

His references were not good at all and his communication was not consistent

Andrew Hayes
404 Waterville Dr
Columbia SC

This is the address he gave me...

Lets get together guys and see what else we can get on this guy

subfanatic · 24 December 2009, 12:34 AM

I just saw that...my stomach hurts and it's not even my money. i really hope this works out. He was told to have pics of the paperwork days ago. I was interested in that Sub as well.

Pep04 · 24 December 2009, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeychitwood

I agreed to buy a 16618 Submariner from TheRolex88. It is pictured and described in this ad:

FS: Rolex 18k Gold Submariner 16618 All Blue

I wired cash to him Monday morning. We agreed to ship each other watches involved in the trade before Christmas Eve. I shipped two Rolex watches via FedEx Overnight in trade to him Monday morning. Someone signed for the watches at his address Tuesday morning. The total transaction was for $12,000.

I've have made repeated attempts to contact him by phone and email, but have heard nothing since Sunday. It is now Wednesday. He had no problem communicating with me when he was interested in getting my money and my watches.

What do I do now? I continue to send emails and make phone calls, all of which go to voice mail. How long do I wait before I initiate action, and do I lose valuable time by waiting? I need some advice.

I would contact the authorities in both your town and his. And right before Christmas!

Good Luck

Prince · 24 December 2009, 12:35 AM

TheRolex88 has been banned, but I don't know who did it.

Numismatist · 24 December 2009, 12:37 AM

AGREED! Report it ASAP to police and postal authorities.

subfanatic · 24 December 2009, 12:38 AM

Lol-x did a spot check for some paperwork that would go with the watch, he did not produce.

RebreatherDiver · 24 December 2009, 12:38 AM

I am assuming you have his name and bank account number?

Contact the South Carolina State Attorney General and get the proper forms to start a formal complaint.

Secondly, I would call the police in the town of his address and ask them if this is considered a internet theft. If they agree, I would ask to file formal charges and have them make a visit to make contact with the individual.

I would also start getting paperwork together for private litigation and be ready to sue him civilly.

In the mean time, I would gather all communication that is pertinent to your transaction, ask the carrier (FedEx or US Mail) for a copy of the signature card. Moreover, since he is now banned, I would ask TRF for any information they can share on his whereabouts.

I am very sorry for your loss, this is a horrible time to be taken advantage of. I am not sure how to offer a solution to this, other than having a first selling transaction be less than "X" amount, and then be labeled as Level 1 seller, and offer different level's of sellers as reputation grows.

Wish it was in NC, I could pick up the phone and have a cruiser over at the house by noon.

best of luck,

Tom

valentine · 24 December 2009, 12:39 AM

columbia, SC? lemme see what I can do. I used to live in SC. like david said. lets get together and get this HANDLED.

Numismatist · 24 December 2009, 12:42 AM

He was active in the last 24 hours of TRF. Strange.

DAVIDSW · 24 December 2009, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by valentine

columbia, SC? lemme see what I can do. I used to live in SC. like david said. lets get together and get this HANDLED.

I called his local Branch Monday just to check up and the account number matched his name but I could not get a confirmation on his address matching the account....

joeychitwood · 24 December 2009, 12:50 AM

OMG! The email address on the FS ad is now different than it was before. I feel like an idiot! $12,000!

mrh1797 · 24 December 2009, 12:52 AM

This would not be considered theft unfortunately, sadly there is not much recourse in terms of legalities. Most often these types of transactions are considered civil issues and can only be handled through civil court. Joey contact me at [email protected] or 719-214-2277....I can let you know what your options are. I am so sorry buddy.

Dennis in MA · 24 December 2009, 12:52 AM

Oh man that stinks. Google Maps comes up with the street, but no finding on the #. Based on the Google-maps #'ing, he lives on a nice cul-de-sac.

Let's hope his dog died or he's in the hospital or something. I'd be sick for you otherwise.

subfanatic · 24 December 2009, 12:53 AM

I feel for you, hoping this is taken care of.

Pep04 · 24 December 2009, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis in MA

Oh man that stinks. Google Maps comes up with the street, but no finding on the #. Based on the Google-maps #'ing, he lives on a nice cul-de-sac.

Let's hope his dog died or he's in the hospital or something. I'd be sick for you otherwise.

I did the same thing, but the numbers on the house only reach 396.

1000ftSub · 24 December 2009, 12:55 AM

Wow, 12,000 bucks!!!!!

AWATCH · 24 December 2009, 12:57 AM

I am so sorry to hear this, DON'T WASTE A SECOND, go after the guy NOW.

Good luck

Nicko · 24 December 2009, 12:57 AM

Now, why was he banned? Did the Mod know something you didn't? Maybe his selling privileges should have been questioned? Damn! I hope the hell this works out and it's all a minor mix up and he is just not home or something silly like that.

clew84 · 24 December 2009, 12:58 AM

Makes me sick to read this - I am so sorry.

We need our own TRF Task Force...

1000ftSub · 24 December 2009, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AWATCH

I am so sorry to hear this, DON'T WASTE A SECOND, go after the guy NOW.

Good luck

indeed.

Nicko · 24 December 2009, 01:00 AM

Can someone blow up this pic and see if there is an address on the cert?

TimeToGo · 24 December 2009, 01:06 AM

I am so sorry this has happened to you.

He was BANNED for not providing a copy of the certificate as requested...See link below:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=103682

Nicko · 24 December 2009, 01:11 AM

What a fvcking turd!

If he is indeed a scammer!

Mosco · 24 December 2009, 01:15 AM

If he's reading this, I hope he will realize that a couple Rolexes aren't worth two broken kneecaps and other permanent bodily damage and comes clean. In modern day it is not that hard to find him. Search is in the works.

TurboWatch · 24 December 2009, 01:15 AM

Not before Xmas. I contacted the guy while back but no solid or verifiable references....

and now this. Anyone lives nearby to help the Doc out?

It stinks to have this happened right here at TRF. I've always thought we're one of the safest place ...

24 December 2009, 12:18 AM	#1
joeychitwood "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Way Up North USA Watch: Rolexes & Tudors Posts: 6,361	I May Have Been Scammed Right Here On TRF I agreed to buy a 16618 Submariner from TheRolex88. It is pictured and described in this ad: FS: Rolex 18k Gold Submariner 16618 All Blue I wired cash to him Monday morning. We agreed to ship each other watches involved in the trade before Christmas Eve. I shipped two Rolex watches via FedEx Overnight in trade to him Monday morning. Someone signed for the watches at his address Tuesday morning. The total transaction was for $12,000. I've have made repeated attempts to contact him by phone and email, but have heard nothing since Sunday. It is now Wednesday. He had no problem communicating with me when he was interested in getting my money and my watches. What do I do now? I continue to send emails and make phone calls, all of which go to voice mail. How long do I wait before I initiate action, and do I lose valuable time by waiting? I need some advice.

24 December 2009, 12:23 AM	#2
Mosco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Greg Location: Cincinnati Watch: I like to... Posts: 18,567	Where is he located? __________________ Instagram - @CaliberSwiss *“A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance.” - Hunter S. Thompson*

24 December 2009, 12:35 AM	#9
Prince "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Real Name: Allan Location: St. Augustine, FL Watch: Daytona/Sub/GMT/DJ Posts: 20,323	TheRolex88 has been banned, but I don't know who did it. __________________ Member: Rolex Keeper's Society "You see, you can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself." - Rick Nelson

24 December 2009, 12:37 AM	#10
Numismatist "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Chris Location: Camden ME & STT Watch: 116600 Posts: 6,350	AGREED! Report it ASAP to police and postal authorities. __________________ Rolex 116600 Sea-dweller Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White Legrand FP Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White RB Montblanc Meisterstück Diamond Mozart BP Montblanc Meisterstück Mozart BP

24 December 2009, 12:42 AM	#14
Numismatist "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Chris Location: Camden ME & STT Watch: 116600 Posts: 6,350	He was active in the last 24 hours of TRF. Strange. __________________ Rolex 116600 Sea-dweller Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White Legrand FP Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White RB Montblanc Meisterstück Diamond Mozart BP Montblanc Meisterstück Mozart BP

24 December 2009, 12:31 AM	#3
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	He is banned here,,,OMG, let' hope everything works out.

24 December 2009, 12:33 AM	#4
valentine Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Justin Location: Baltimore, MD Watch: TT Diamond DJ Posts: 2,809	DUDE! no way! I'd get the authorities and your bank, etc involved ASAP, and where is he located?

24 December 2009, 12:33 AM	#6
DAVIDSW ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 SubLV41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: David Location: Orlando, Florida Watch: 1655 EXP Posts: 36,337	Take action IMMEDIATELY... I also agreed to buy the 18k sub from him.... I told him I would fly out there and do a face to face deal with him... He said he was out of town and could not do it.... I was not comfortable with it at all so did not send him payment.. His references were not good at all and his communication was not consistent Andrew Hayes 404 Waterville Dr Columbia SC This is the address he gave me... Lets get together guys and see what else we can get on this guy

24 December 2009, 12:34 AM	#7
subfanatic "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Eric Location: KANSAS CITY,MO Watch: 114060 Posts: 183	I just saw that...my stomach hurts and it's not even my money. i really hope this works out. He was told to have pics of the paperwork days ago. I was interested in that Sub as well.

24 December 2009, 12:38 AM	#11
subfanatic "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Eric Location: KANSAS CITY,MO Watch: 114060 Posts: 183	Lol-x did a spot check for some paperwork that would go with the watch, he did not produce.

24 December 2009, 12:38 AM	#12
RebreatherDiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Thomas Location: Greater Boston Watch: Rotational Posts: 666	I am assuming you have his name and bank account number? Contact the South Carolina State Attorney General and get the proper forms to start a formal complaint. Secondly, I would call the police in the town of his address and ask them if this is considered a internet theft. If they agree, I would ask to file formal charges and have them make a visit to make contact with the individual. I would also start getting paperwork together for private litigation and be ready to sue him civilly. In the mean time, I would gather all communication that is pertinent to your transaction, ask the carrier (FedEx or US Mail) for a copy of the signature card. Moreover, since he is now banned, I would ask TRF for any information they can share on his whereabouts. I am very sorry for your loss, this is a horrible time to be taken advantage of. I am not sure how to offer a solution to this, other than having a first selling transaction be less than "X" amount, and then be labeled as Level 1 seller, and offer different level's of sellers as reputation grows. Wish it was in NC, I could pick up the phone and have a cruiser over at the house by noon. best of luck, Tom

24 December 2009, 12:39 AM	#13
valentine Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Justin Location: Baltimore, MD Watch: TT Diamond DJ Posts: 2,809	columbia, SC? lemme see what I can do. I used to live in SC. like david said. lets get together and get this HANDLED.

24 December 2009, 12:50 AM	#16
joeychitwood "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Way Up North USA Watch: Rolexes & Tudors Posts: 6,361	OMG! The email address on the FS ad is now different than it was before. I feel like an idiot! $12,000!

24 December 2009, 12:52 AM	#17
mrh1797 Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Matt Location: The 505 Watch: Love em' all!! Posts: 1,237	This would not be considered theft unfortunately, sadly there is not much recourse in terms of legalities. Most often these types of transactions are considered civil issues and can only be handled through civil court. Joey contact me at [email protected] or 719-214-2277....I can let you know what your options are. I am so sorry buddy.

24 December 2009, 12:52 AM	#18
Dennis in MA "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Dennis Location: Massachusetts Posts: 55	Oh man that stinks. Google Maps comes up with the street, but no finding on the #. Based on the Google-maps #'ing, he lives on a nice cul-de-sac. Let's hope his dog died or he's in the hospital or something. I'd be sick for you otherwise.

24 December 2009, 12:53 AM	#19
subfanatic "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Eric Location: KANSAS CITY,MO Watch: 114060 Posts: 183	I feel for you, hoping this is taken care of.

24 December 2009, 12:55 AM	#21
1000ftSub "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Mike Location: Orlando Posts: 2,471	Wow, 12,000 bucks!!!!!

24 December 2009, 12:57 AM	#22
AWATCH "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: al Location: GEORGIA Watch: Explorer II Posts: 1,759	I am so sorry to hear this, DON'T WASTE A SECOND, go after the guy NOW. Good luck __________________ Al

24 December 2009, 12:58 AM	#24
clew84 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Chris Location: Cincinnati Watch: me soar Posts: 930	Makes me sick to read this - I am so sorry. We need our own TRF Task Force... __________________ Rolex Sea Dweller 16600 Omega SMP IWC 3227-01 Autodromo Prototipo

24 December 2009, 01:00 AM	#26
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	Can someone blow up this pic and see if there is an address on the cert?

24 December 2009, 01:06 AM	#27
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,735	I am so sorry this has happened to you. He was BANNED for not providing a copy of the certificate as requested...See link below: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=103682

24 December 2009, 01:11 AM	#28
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	What a fvcking turd! If he is indeed a scammer!

24 December 2009, 01:15 AM	#29
Mosco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Greg Location: Cincinnati Watch: I like to... Posts: 18,567	If he's reading this, I hope he will realize that a couple Rolexes aren't worth two broken kneecaps and other permanent bodily damage and comes clean. In modern day it is not that hard to find him. Search is in the works. __________________ Instagram - @CaliberSwiss *“A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance.” - Hunter S. Thompson*

24 December 2009, 01:15 AM	#30
TurboWatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,641	Oh shit! Not before Xmas. I contacted the guy while back but no solid or verifiable references.... and now this. Anyone lives nearby to help the Doc out? It stinks to have this happened right here at TRF. I've always thought we're one of the safest place ...

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