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M603 · 31 December 2009, 12:05 PM

Hi everyone, I've got a friend that wants to sell me his pam 90 in good condition for 3k but he lost the box and paperwork only got a receip. Should I buy it, is it a good price?

bcacncnc · 31 December 2009, 01:36 PM

From the technical standpoint, the PAM90 has Valjoux calibre which is considered as a being mechanically "better". 3k sounds like a good price if indeed its the real deal.

M603 · 31 December 2009, 02:05 PM

Is the first time I thought about getting a Panerai watch, how can I tell if the watch is indeed authentic or where should I take the watch to in order to prove it is authentic?

louie · 31 December 2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by M603

Is the first time I thought about getting a Panerai watch, how can I tell if the watch is indeed authentic or where should I take the watch to in order to prove it is authentic?

Richemont Service Centre..

mike · 31 December 2009, 11:45 PM

No arguement from me on the 90.

In my area that's an amazing price if all is well.

100thmonkey · 1 January 2010, 12:52 PM

No Box No Papers I would not pay more than 2k, lack of complete watch reduces its value by 20-30% generally.

mrh1797 · 1 January 2010, 12:56 PM

Authenticate it first, then if the watch is what you want buy it! 3k is a good deal. Unless your a trader or a seller papers are not that important. If this is gonna be a watch you keep long term who cares!!

Vipergq · 1 January 2010, 01:14 PM

Killer deal if its Authentic.

Let me know if you pass. I'll take it.

mrh1797 · 1 January 2010, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mike

No arguement from me on the 90.

In my area that's an amazing price if all is well.

Mike,

Your pics never cease to amaze me!!!

louie · 1 January 2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mrh1797

Mike,

Your pics never cease to amaze me!!!

yeah Matt, always a pleasure to see Mike's photos...thanks Mike!

Hi M603,I would jump on it if it's a REAL deal! But seriously i find it hard to believe if someone can misplaced/lost such a big box. If i ever come across one that don't c/w any paper or box i will wanna my watch maker or the RSC to authenticate it for me before i handover the $$. Even it's a deal from my friend or relative....

M603 · 1 January 2010, 03:15 PM

I really appreciate all the good advise you guys provided me. I'll definitely have a RSC authenticate it first and if it is indeed authentic, I will be posting pictures next week!

Happy New Year!!! Wish everyone to have a good and healthy 2010!

mrh1797 · 2 January 2010, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by M603

I really appreciate all the good advise you guys provided me. I'll definitely have a RSC authenticate it first and if it is indeed authentic, I will be posting pictures next week!

Happy New Year!!! Wish everyone to have a good and healthy 2010!

I doubt RSC will authenticate a PAM...Just find a Panerai AD near you and they can tell you if its legit, or if you have access to it, since it is your friends and all...take some detailed photos, up close of dial and back from different angles and post here on the forum, I am sure the collective knowledge here can help you out quite a bit.

louie · 2 January 2010, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mrh1797

I doubt RSC will authenticate a PAM...Just find a Panerai AD near you and they can tell you if its legit, or if you have access to it, since it is your friends and all...take some detailed photos, up close of dial and back from different angles and post here on the forum, I am sure the collective knowledge here can help you out quite a bit.

RSC (Richemont service centre) just authenticated my PAM24,87 are all original. As for ADs,i don't know in the US. But here i doubt they know how to authenticate the original parts for the original serial. (many old/discontinued pams have parts replaced,eg original tritium dial to luminova dial hands bezel etc) So besides authenticating they(RSC) are also able to verify all parts are original to the serial.

PS. You never know if the straps/hands/dial/deployant buckle has been swapped,remember the fakes are getting better by the day..so my best bet is the RSC(Richemont service centre).

M603 · 5 January 2010, 10:38 AM

here is the Panerai that I was talking about... let me know if it worth 3k without box and papers. The watch is a D serie.

explodingtaco · 5 January 2010, 10:49 AM

Diamond dial on a panerai? I'm no expert but that seems VERY odd. I would pass for that reason alone.

dotcomakazee · 5 January 2010, 11:49 AM

I'm guessing it's fake due to the diamond dial. I would also guess that the diamond dial actually devalues the watch as well. I would stay away. Aftermarket anything (other than straps) on a PAM = NO BUENO!

dotcomakazee · 5 January 2010, 11:50 AM

diamond bezel rather...

A1000 · 6 January 2010, 04:37 AM

At best it's been mod'd and at worst a fake. Either way from a value perspective there's not much between the two options from a value perspective. Personally I'd go with the advice from the previous posters and avoid.

31 December 2009, 12:05 PM	#1
M603 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Brooklyn NYC Posts: 26	need advise for pam 90 Hi everyone, I've got a friend that wants to sell me his pam 90 in good condition for 3k but he lost the box and paperwork only got a receip. Should I buy it, is it a good price?

31 December 2009, 01:36 PM	#2
bcacncnc "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Bryan Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,577	From the technical standpoint, the PAM90 has Valjoux calibre which is considered as a being mechanically "better". 3k sounds like a good price if indeed its the real deal. __________________ Omega Panerai Chopard Grand Seiko

5 January 2010, 11:49 AM	#16
dotcomakazee "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Ty Location: Irving, TX Watch: Exp II 42mm Posts: 919	I'm guessing it's fake due to the diamond dial. I would also guess that the diamond dial actually devalues the watch as well. I would stay away. Aftermarket anything (other than straps) on a PAM = NO BUENO! __________________ Rolex Explorer II 42mm • Panerai 389 47mm

5 January 2010, 11:50 AM	#17
dotcomakazee "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Ty Location: Irving, TX Watch: Exp II 42mm Posts: 919	diamond bezel rather... __________________ Rolex Explorer II 42mm • Panerai 389 47mm

6 January 2010, 04:37 AM	#18
A1000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Adrian Location: UK Posts: 953	At best it's been mod'd and at worst a fake. Either way from a value perspective there's not much between the two options from a value perspective. Personally I'd go with the advice from the previous posters and avoid. __________________ Rolex 16610LV (2007) PAM 312K (2009) PAM 292K (2009)

31 December 2009, 02:05 PM	#3
M603 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Brooklyn NYC Posts: 26	Is the first time I thought about getting a Panerai watch, how can I tell if the watch is indeed authentic or where should I take the watch to in order to prove it is authentic?

31 December 2009, 11:45 PM	#5
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	No arguement from me on the 90. In my area that's an amazing price if all is well.

1 January 2010, 12:52 PM	#6
100thmonkey "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: The Major Location: Surrey, UK Watch: All Are Beautiful Posts: 356	No Box No Papers I would not pay more than 2k, lack of complete watch reduces its value by 20-30% generally.

1 January 2010, 12:56 PM	#7
mrh1797 Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Matt Location: The 505 Watch: Love em' all!! Posts: 1,237	Authenticate it first, then if the watch is what you want buy it! 3k is a good deal. Unless your a trader or a seller papers are not that important. If this is gonna be a watch you keep long term who cares!!

1 January 2010, 01:14 PM	#8
Vipergq Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: KADEN Location: Los Angeles Posts: 179	Killer deal if its Authentic. Let me know if you pass. I'll take it.

1 January 2010, 03:15 PM	#11
M603 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Brooklyn NYC Posts: 26	I really appreciate all the good advise you guys provided me. I'll definitely have a RSC authenticate it first and if it is indeed authentic, I will be posting pictures next week! Happy New Year!!! Wish everyone to have a good and healthy 2010!

5 January 2010, 10:38 AM	#14
M603 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Brooklyn NYC Posts: 26	here is the Panerai that I was talking about... let me know if it worth 3k without box and papers. The watch is a D serie.

5 January 2010, 10:49 AM	#15
explodingtaco "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Mr. Taco Location: Right Behind You. Posts: 913	Diamond dial on a panerai? I'm no expert but that seems VERY odd. I would pass for that reason alone.

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