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Chunky · 19 December 2009, 01:47 AM

I was wondering if someone could help me out here.

I have a red sub circa 1970. I had put it away since april 2009 and decided to take it out and wear it this morning.

I started to wind it so that I could set the right date. Can someone tell me if there should be a little rubber gasket visible when you release the winder?
Seems to me that I remember seeing one there before but now, I'm not 100% sure anymore. Maybe it dried up and fell off?
I certainly don't want to get it wet if a gasket is missing.

Thanks in advance for any info on this.

Chunky

mike · 19 December 2009, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chunky

I was wondering if someone could help me out here.

I have a red sub circa 1970. I had put it away since april 2009 and decided to take it out and wear it this morning.

I started to wind it so that I could set the right date. Can someone tell me if there should be a little rubber gasket visible when you release the winder?
Seems to me that I remember seeing one there before but now, I'm not 100% sure anymore. Maybe it dried up and fell off?
I certainly don't want to get it wet if a gasket is missing.

Thanks in advance for any info on this.

Chunky

Yep, probably, maybe!!

Aw, I had to say that. I'm sorry.

At it's birth the RED probably did not have a visible o-ring. It would have started with a twinlock, but if were serviced sometime in the past it would have been upgraded with the triplock with o-ring.

Diverdick, one of the real experts on all things Submariner, created this post a while back that is one of the best explanations I've seen.

He can do it much better than I.

http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...rt=0&rid=29165

Chunky · 19 December 2009, 02:00 AM

Hey Mike,

Thanks for the link. Extremely helpfull. After seiing the pictures, I definately am missing that little gasket.

Thanks again for your reply.

Chunky

mike · 19 December 2009, 02:07 AM

Sweet.

I should add that it also depends on when everyting came on line. With Rolex nothing is set in stone. My white 1680 originally came with the twinlock. Rolex wastes nothing.

SLS · 19 December 2009, 07:04 AM

Both of my 1680's came without the gasket on the tube. When I had them serviced made the choice to have a new crown & tube installed. IMHO, it does little or nothing to the value of the watch, and even if it did affect the value, I still would have changed them out. My guess is that your watch was serviced, but the crown & tube was not changed.
Scott

Chunky · 22 December 2009, 03:23 AM

I guess this is really what I need to ask.

Now that I know I am missing this o-ring, should I remove my watch when I shower or wash my hands? Should I be concerned about dirt or dust as well?

Would installing a new o-ring entail a full service once again, or can my service man simply snap another one on?

Any more advice would be great.

Chunky

onkyo · 22 December 2009, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike

Yep, probably, maybe!!

Aw, I had to say that. I'm sorry.

At it's birth the RED probably did not have a visible o-ring. It would have started with a twinlock, but if were serviced sometime in the past it would have been upgraded with the triplock with o-ring.

Diverdick, one of the real experts on all things Submariner, created this post a while back that is one of the best explanations I've seen.

He can do it much better than I.

http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...rt=0&rid=29165

Thanks for that link Mike....

I did not know the early triple locks did not come with the o-ring.

Tools · 22 December 2009, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chunky

I guess this is really what I need to ask.

Now that I know I am missing this o-ring, should I remove my watch when I shower or wash my hands? Should I be concerned about dirt or dust as well?

Would installing a new o-ring entail a full service once again, or can my service man simply snap another one on?

Any more advice would be great.

Chunky

If you are actually missing the o-ring, then you would see the groove that it is seated in... That groove would be noticeable..

However, there are still o-rings around the stem inside and one in the crown.. although I wouldn't go diving with it.

Chunky · 22 December 2009, 04:25 AM

I just snapped this picture with my crappy phone. The groove is definately there where the o-ring belongs.

Thanks for your inputs.

SLS · 22 December 2009, 06:28 AM

Is it smooth at the very end of the tube or is there a space (where the tube should go) then threads? If it is the what I first described, which it also looks like to me, then you have the older original style tube, just get it pressure tested to be sure it is still watertight.
Scott

DadsWatch72 · 22 December 2009, 07:02 AM

Are the crowns different on the twin compared to the triple? Number of dots?

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?p=1442130

maverick · 23 December 2009, 11:10 AM

I alway have the tube and crown replaced when I have a watch serviced. JMHO =) maverick

dkpw · 27 December 2009, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick

I alway have the tube and crown replaced when I have a watch serviced. JMHO =) maverick

Always fly first class even if you cannot go as far.............

Two pieces of sound advice!

ciclisto · 17 January 2010, 10:14 AM

what causes gaskets to need replacing... age or use

ParisDakarBmw · 17 January 2010, 10:22 AM

I remove my gaskets to be different!

Sgthuff · 18 January 2010, 05:57 AM

Wow,great information!

19 December 2009, 01:47 AM	#1
Chunky "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Charles Location: Montreal, QC Watch: 1680 Red, 116710 Posts: 359	Red Sub gasket question I was wondering if someone could help me out here. I have a red sub circa 1970. I had put it away since april 2009 and decided to take it out and wear it this morning. I started to wind it so that I could set the right date. Can someone tell me if there should be a little rubber gasket visible when you release the winder? Seems to me that I remember seeing one there before but now, I'm not 100% sure anymore. Maybe it dried up and fell off? I certainly don't want to get it wet if a gasket is missing. Thanks in advance for any info on this. Chunky __________________ 1972 1680 SUB 2018 116710 BLNR 2005 Citizen Skyhawk C651

19 December 2009, 02:00 AM	#3
Chunky "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Charles Location: Montreal, QC Watch: 1680 Red, 116710 Posts: 359	Hey Mike, Thanks for the link. Extremely helpfull. After seiing the pictures, I definately am missing that little gasket. Thanks again for your reply. Chunky __________________ 1972 1680 SUB 2018 116710 BLNR 2005 Citizen Skyhawk C651

19 December 2009, 07:04 AM	#5
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,401	Both of my 1680's came without the gasket on the tube. When I had them serviced made the choice to have a new crown & tube installed. IMHO, it does little or nothing to the value of the watch, and even if it did affect the value, I still would have changed them out. My guess is that your watch was serviced, but the crown & tube was not changed. Scott __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

22 December 2009, 03:23 AM	#6
Chunky "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Charles Location: Montreal, QC Watch: 1680 Red, 116710 Posts: 359	I guess this is really what I need to ask. Now that I know I am missing this o-ring, should I remove my watch when I shower or wash my hands? Should I be concerned about dirt or dust as well? Would installing a new o-ring entail a full service once again, or can my service man simply snap another one on? Any more advice would be great. Chunky __________________ 1972 1680 SUB 2018 116710 BLNR 2005 Citizen Skyhawk C651

22 December 2009, 04:25 AM	#9
Chunky "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Charles Location: Montreal, QC Watch: 1680 Red, 116710 Posts: 359	I just snapped this picture with my crappy phone. The groove is definately there where the o-ring belongs. Thanks for your inputs. Attached Images __________________ 1972 1680 SUB 2018 116710 BLNR 2005 Citizen Skyhawk C651

19 December 2009, 02:07 AM	#4
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Sweet. I should add that it also depends on when everyting came on line. With Rolex nothing is set in stone. My white 1680 originally came with the twinlock. Rolex wastes nothing.

22 December 2009, 06:28 AM	#10
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,401	Is it smooth at the very end of the tube or is there a space (where the tube should go) then threads? If it is the what I first described, which it also looks like to me, then you have the older original style tube, just get it pressure tested to be sure it is still watertight. Scott __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

22 December 2009, 07:02 AM	#11
DadsWatch72 Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Watch: DRSD 1665 #3551XXX Posts: 2,401	Are the crowns different on the twin compared to the triple? Number of dots? http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?p=1442130 Attached Images

23 December 2009, 11:10 AM	#12
maverick Banned Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: maverick Location: Prescott Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,180	I alway have the tube and crown replaced when I have a watch serviced. JMHO =) maverick

17 January 2010, 10:14 AM	#14
ciclisto Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: john Location: San Diego Posts: 46	what causes gaskets to need replacing... age or use

17 January 2010, 10:22 AM	#15
ParisDakarBmw Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Paul Location: New Haven, CT Watch: 116610 Sub-C Posts: 6,552	I remove my gaskets to be different!

18 January 2010, 05:57 AM	#16
Sgthuff Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Salem,or Posts: 31	Wow,great information!

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