Best position to change time on 14060ND?

[JBat]

[xxthe_remedyxx]

Originally Posted by snow_rocks

Was this her?

[donas]

I thought with the older automatic watches (any make) the time shouldn't be set between certain hours, like 10 PM - 2 AM or something, pretty sure my Omega manual says that. Is that not true? I know it doesn't matter with newer ones though.

[JBat]

It is true with Omega's, but not with newer Rolex's.

[tandrup]

I have never heard that argument before on the No-date models. I agree that you could put stress on the crown and the mechanics it is attached to if you don't pull it out straight. And that it is probably easier to "control" that when it's not on your wrist.

But the argument that you shouldn't set time in a certain time interval seems like nonsense.

[R1@160@alltimes]

Remedy dude if you live in NYC then you should have heard of a little place call NY Rolex Service Center (NYRSC)

Bring it there and let them do their magic.

[ayecarumba]

Originally Posted by JBat

I'm guessing people have been setting & adjusting their watches like this for years, with little or no adverse effect.

Doesn't say anything in any of their owner manuals or website, nor has there ever been any damage issues like this noted here on TRF as far as I know....

[Tools]

Originally Posted by donas

I thought with the older automatic watches (any make) the time shouldn't be set between certain hours, like 10 PM - 2 AM or something, pretty sure my Omega manual says that. Is that not true? I know it doesn't matter with newer ones though.

Many watches do engage gears and pinions and the date is engaged between those hours so you may damage the watch if you change it then... Rolex changed their movements back in ~1977 to overcome this.. You can change a Rolex date at any time (post 1977). Omega you cannot... most manuals warn you about that..

As to setting/winding while on the wrist... If your watch is tight, then your finger under the crown can put lateral (upward) pressure on the stem.... Whether it is enough to do any damage is an argument for another day.......

[watchmaker]

I always recommend to take the watch off the wrist first for the very reason given above. It can, particularly on older watches, cause accidental bending of the stem, and in turn, (moreso on watches without screwdown crowns) cause wear around the pendant, and sometimes cause the hole to become more oval than round.

These things are rare, but do happen.

[Welshwatchman]

Originally Posted by watchmaker

I always recommend to take the watch off the wrist first for the very reason given above. It can, particularly on older watches, cause accidental bending of the stem, and in turn, (moreso on watches without screwdown crowns) cause wear around the pendant, and sometimes cause the hole to become more oval than round.

These things are rare, but do happen.

So the "blonde" is wiser than a lot of members here.

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

So the "blonde" is wiser than a lot of members here.

Agreed, Paul..............thankfully I don't fall into the "hair" category!!

[xxthe_remedyxx]

Originally Posted by R1@160@alltimes

Remedy dude if you live in NYC then you should have heard of a little place call NY Rolex Service Center (NYRSC)

Bring it there and let them do their magic.

I think I might just do that. Many thanks to everyone for all the great advice, really appreciate it!

[esm]

interesting.

Sounds like the saleswoman was trying to impress you with her rolex knowledge

Important question - did you get her number? ;-)

[KidK]

I have been told that on a watch with a date, you shouldn't adjust the time BACKWARDS beyond 8:00 am as it will impact the date mechanism. Since my GV doesn't have a date window, I didn't ask the question to my Rolex AD.

Maybe this is what she was refering to?

[matt.wu]

Originally Posted by Tools

Many watches do engage gears and pinions and the date is engaged between those hours so you may damage the watch if you change it then... Rolex changed their movements back in ~1977 to overcome this.. You can change a Rolex date at any time (post 1977). Omega you cannot... most manuals warn you about that..

As to setting/winding while on the wrist... If your watch is tight, then your finger under the crown can put lateral (upward) pressure on the stem.... Whether it is enough to do any damage is an argument for another day.......

My thoughts exactly.

[Mockingbird]

Holy smokes batman! Tourneau has struck again!

To the rolexmobile!

[Andad]

Originally Posted by JBat

I'm guessing people have been setting & adjusting their watches like this for years, with little or no adverse effect.

You shave you arms John?

[Andad]

Originally Posted by mfer

Guys, she's actually right!

You should not wind or adjust your watch while it is on your wrist as you are MUCH more likely to put undo stress on the stem when it is in its weakest position.

I agree, blondes make me weak.

[SLS]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Agreed, Paul..............thankfully I don't fall into the "hair" category!!

I beg to differ, I've seen some of your wrist shots!
Scott

[Subexplorer]

Originally Posted by watchmaker

I always recommend to take the watch off the wrist first for the very reason given above. It can, particularly on older watches, cause accidental bending of the stem, and in turn, (moreso on watches without screwdown crowns) cause wear around the pendant, and sometimes cause the hole to become more oval than round.

These things are rare, but do happen.

Completely agree with this explanation. I was given same advice several times during more than 50 years of wearing wrist watches, specially those with manual movements.
May be the blondie seller was right but didn´t explain well the reasons of her counsel.
Best regards, Abel

[Sub'erman]

Originally Posted by The GMT Master

There's nothing to stop you changing the time on your watch at any point, except, perhaps, underwater. I've never heard such madness in my life

It is still waterproof with the crown out.
Wouldn't set it under water myself, though...

[republik-of-mancunia]

Originally Posted by Tools

Many watches do engage gears and pinions and the date is engaged between those hours so you may damage the watch if you change it then... Rolex changed their movements back in ~1977 to overcome this.. You can change a Rolex date at any time (post 1977). Omega you cannot... most manuals warn you about that..

As to setting/winding while on the wrist... If your watch is tight, then your finger under the crown can put lateral (upward) pressure on the stem.... Whether it is enough to do any damage is an argument for another day.......

all sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

[The GMT Master]

Originally Posted by Sub'erman

It is still waterproof with the crown out.
Wouldn't set it under water myself, though...

Indeed, one of the reasons why they were used by the military, if I remember correctly. Got to love the Triplock

[padi56]

Originally Posted by xxthe_remedyxx

I recently took my 14060ND to Tourneau to have it looked at and while waiting one of the employees gave me a tip about changing the time. She said NEVER to unscrew the crown and change the time while it was on my wrist. She also told me never to change it during certain times but for the life of me I cant remember what times she specified.

Anyone know?

Well the lady and Larry both correct you should never wind or reset time date on wrist.If you think of it the winding stem is one of the weakest parts of any watch.Now while on wrist you could put un-needed stress on the crown stem you try and wind and reset watch while on wrist.And again on the older movements it was not recomended to change date between 8am to 2pm but on modern movements doubt if any harm would be done.

[poppydog]

Originally Posted by Sub'erman

It is still waterproof with the crown out.
Wouldn't set it under water myself, though...

Seriously? Doesn't seem likely to me. I don't recall reading that in any of the literature that came with my Sub or SD. How do you know this?