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Old 27 April 2010, 10:40 PM   #1
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Icon8 Just got sub back from RSC its the case is scratched

Hi all I have been to my AD to pick up my sub as they sent it in to have the bezel insert replaced and it has come back and the case sides have loads of scratches. It’s as if they have used a cloth to clean it and put long lines down the sides. Should I complain or leave it as it could have been the AD giving it a wipe before giving it to me. I will try and get some pics but my camera doesn’t has a macro mode.

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Old 27 April 2010, 10:43 PM   #2
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I would definitely complain. To me, this is unacceptable.
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Old 27 April 2010, 10:47 PM   #3
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Hi Richard

Take the watch back to the AD as soon as possible. It should have left the RSC in at least the same condition as when you gave it to the AD. Take some pics as well - do you have any 'before' pics?

If the scratches are light, it will be easy for the RSC to buff it up like new again





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Old 27 April 2010, 10:48 PM   #4
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When I got my Explorer II back from Bexley a couple of months ago it came in one of the plastic boxes they use when the watches are first supplied to the AD's.....it was un-touched and perfect.....sounds like your AD took it out and gave it a wipe thinking they were doing you a service when in reality they have spoilt it for you.....however your watch (unless it is a safe queen) is going to soon have many such scratches unless you are unbelievably careful with it....I know it's no excuse and I would have been gutted too....but my Explorer II now has plenty of fine scratches......I suppose it depends just how bad they are and just how annoyed you are as to whether it's worth complaining.....

Clive, that sounds like a reasonable option until you know how long Bexley take.....they are quite brilliant but they do take their time being brilliant!!!
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Old 27 April 2010, 10:49 PM   #5
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Hi all I have been to my AD to pick up my sub as they sent it in to have the bezel insert replaced and it has come back and the case sides have loads of scratches. It’s as if they have used a cloth to clean it and put long lines down the sides. Should I complain or leave it as it could have been the AD giving it a wipe before giving it to me. I will try and get some pics but my camera doesn’t has a macro mode.

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First I cannot understand why they sent your watch to the RSC for such a simple thing in changing a bezel insert.It takes even if you never done it before around half a hour and thats being very careful.Once you done a few
times its just minutes,if the RSC put the scratches on then they should make it good. But if they used a cloth it must have been a dirty gritty cloth to scratch the polished sides..
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Old 27 April 2010, 10:53 PM   #6
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Clive, that sounds like a reasonable option until you know how long Bexley take.....they are quite brilliant but they do take their time being brilliant!!!

Guess I'm spoilt Bill - Rolex Australia are a 20 min stroll away from me (not that it makes them any faster/slower...)


Personally I wouldn't worry about light scratches - as you say, they're going to happen anyway. But better if you put 'em there yourself...




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Old 27 April 2010, 10:54 PM   #7
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The AD is goldsmiths and they dont have a watchmaker onsite thats why it was sent to Rolex direct. The scratches are very light and i no i will get more but the sides of the case had none before it was sent in. If i had done them i could live with it.
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Old 27 April 2010, 10:58 PM   #8
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Richard - if the scratches are very light, perhaps try using a Cape Cod cloth on the case sides?

I know the first scratches are annoying, but there will be many more. At service time the watch can be refinished like new.



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Old 27 April 2010, 11:01 PM   #9
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The AD is goldsmiths and they dont have a watchmaker onsite thats why it was sent to Rolex direct. The scratches are very light and i no i will get more but the sides of the case had none before it was sent in. If i had done them i could live with it.
That's fair do's, Richard....I'd be cheesed off as well.....funnily enough it's a branch of Goldsmiths I use as well....they were an AD for years but ours is a small town and they just mustn't have shifted enough stock....they lost their AD status about ten years ago, I was gutted.....but, they still give me absolutely top class service, I cannot sing their praises loud enough...they always give me the option of "their man" with a Rolex parts account, same price but twice as quick, or the full Bexley service...I had to use Bexley for the Explorer II, it needed a good polish and I think the kit they use to do the bezel is a bit special and not all independants have it......
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Old 27 April 2010, 11:09 PM   #10
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Utterly unacceptable. They should fix it.
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Old 27 April 2010, 11:13 PM   #11
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Have just tried to take a picture but cant get the watch into focus as im only using a compac. I really dont no what to do. On one had i want it fixed but on the other i only really want it polished when serviced.
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Old 27 April 2010, 11:17 PM   #12
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Set your camera to very high resolution, take a picture under strong light or with a flash, the flash especially will show up all the hairlines....if you have a macro setting use that, if you don't then you will need to take a picture from further back and then crop out the part with your watch in and post that.....
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Old 27 April 2010, 11:17 PM   #13
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Unreal. I'd go apesh*t. Lodge a formal complaint and keep us posted.
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Old 27 April 2010, 11:18 PM   #14
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Richard - it doesn't sound as though it would take much polishing to restore the finish i.e. if it was caused by a dirty cloth. The RSC/AD should make things right for you. I guess it comes down to whether you want to be without the watch again for however long it takes...




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Old 27 April 2010, 11:36 PM   #15
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That's unacceptable. It's a principle thing, have them return the watch to you in the condition they received it in.
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Old 28 April 2010, 12:13 AM   #16
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Is the Sub gold or SS? Gold will definitely scratch with just a cloth, but...

SS would take a lot more than that, like Scotchbrite.
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Old 28 April 2010, 12:16 AM   #17
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sorry to hear about your experience, hope you get it fixed right and soon.
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Old 28 April 2010, 12:36 AM   #18
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Hi There,

I feel for yo mate, exactly the same thing happened to me when I sent my watch to bexley. It came back with a fairly bad scratch on the case and lots of small little scratches that you are talking about.

I got absolutely no satisfaction from the service manager at Bexley. They took it back after some fairly heated telephone conversations but they still did not correct the marks to my satisfaction. ie the watch was unmarked when it was sent in originaly as it was only 2 months old but when they returned it to me the second time I can still see imperfections on the case.

I had another very heated conversation with Rolex and they pretty much dont want to hear any complaints as they were very dismissive.

I decided I would not send it back for a 3rd time as they had now had the watch for longer than me!

i would call them and make your feelings known but its up to you wether you send your watch back to them. It was killing me not having a watch that I paid so much money for.
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Old 28 April 2010, 12:38 AM   #19
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That's unacceptable. It's a principle thing, have them return the watch to you in the condition they received it in.

Bexley would not do this! I would be looking to send my watch to another RSC.
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Old 28 April 2010, 01:30 AM   #20
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I would absolutely take it back and have then polish the scratches out. They should definitely accommodate you.
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Old 28 April 2010, 03:30 AM   #21
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The same thing happened to my Sub...although I scratched it myself. Gave it a good washing, then decided to do a once over with a cloth that my Omega AD gave me when I bought my Speedmaster. Polished sides were perfect until I wiped it with said cloth. It still bugs me, but since I did it I dont worry. If someone else did it I might want to have it fixed.
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Old 28 April 2010, 03:36 AM   #22
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Complain & make them fix it.
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Old 28 April 2010, 05:59 AM   #23
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I've polished mine withe microfibre cloth they gave me after warranty service. Works beautifully. Watch looks like new.
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Old 28 April 2010, 06:10 AM   #24
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If you feel confident that your RSC will fix it properly then send it back if you are not happy. Can you AD polish out the scratches???
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Old 28 April 2010, 08:59 AM   #25
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Take pictures and send with watch to RSC..my money is on the AD causing the problem..but that is just a guess.
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Old 28 April 2010, 09:05 AM   #26
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That is not right, I would take it back for them to fix it. It is the right thing to do.
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Old 28 April 2010, 09:11 AM   #27
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Richard, if it bothers you by all means take it back and complain.
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Old 28 April 2010, 09:30 AM   #28
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I had a bad experance like yours. I send a GMT back under warrenty it came back with vise or clamp gouges on the lugs
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Old 28 April 2010, 09:54 AM   #29
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First I cannot understand why they sent your watch to the RSC for such a simple thing in changing a bezel insert.It takes even if you never done it before around half a hour and thats being very careful.Once you done a few
times its just minutes,if the RSC put the scratches on then they should make it good. But if they used a cloth it must have been a dirty gritty cloth to scratch the polished sides..

Im in the process of doing the same BECAUSE Rolex US only allow the LV inserts to be replaced in house...they wont ship out the part to AD or Authorized watch maker...
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SS would take a lot more than that, like Scotchbrite.
No any cloth will do it if it's not totally clean but it's a very simple fix. Send it back in or if you want to try, use a cape cod cloth first.
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