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Nicko · 22 April 2010, 04:39 AM

like with regards to value down the road? I know these watches have appreciated a great deal over the years and I was wondering what the future might hold for them. It's an early model if you don't already know, it's a 1.7 mil serial circa 1967.

BASSETHOUNDS · 22 April 2010, 04:46 AM

Steve , why don't receive it and wear it for a while first ... and think of selling it later.

Serious , they must be one of the best models to have in terms of gaining value . Knowing where it came from , you should have a nice specimen . We see all too many " rebuilds " popping up for sale . I believe only the "good " ones will increase in value .

Nicko · 22 April 2010, 04:50 AM

No selling intended Tristan, just curious if I am ever out on the street begging for ham sandwiches, at least I'll know how much it's worth..

I would like to know for the insurance as well..No plans on letting it go, unless a 5508 pops up and then of course I'd have to add funds and with the horse, new Merc, etc, well, you know the rest, can't do it...

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Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

Steve , why don't receive it and wear it for a while first ... and think of selling it later.

Serious , they must be one of the best models to have in terms of gaining value . Knowing where it came from , you should have a nice specimen . We see all too many " rebuilds " popping up for sale . I believe only the "good " ones will increase in value .

Renoir · 22 April 2010, 05:01 AM

Steve, since it's an honest, early model....you're investment should be safe.

It also helps that they aren't making 'em anymore!

BASSETHOUNDS · 22 April 2010, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicko

No selling intended Tristan, just curious if I am ever out on the street begging for ham sandwiches, at least I'll know how much it's worth..

I would like to know for the insurance as well..No plans on letting it go, unless a 5508 pops up and then of course I'd have to add funds and with the horse, new Merc, etc, well, you know the rest, can't do it...

What do you want a 5508 for ? They only go 100 meters

Nicko · 22 April 2010, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

What do you want a 5508 for ? They only go 100 meters

Only for my weekend dives!

Nicko · 23 April 2010, 04:11 PM

Anyone else have any information on future value?

TurboWatch · 23 April 2010, 04:23 PM

but the values of the 5513, and 5512 have increased almost 30% over the past year, so it'll take sometimes for the market to digest. But hang on to it Niko, you have a winner in your hand there.

rfknauss · 24 April 2010, 07:52 AM

Steve, current reference prices listed for the 5513 Sub in Mondani's "100 Years of Rolex" book are as follows.

Fair Condition ...... $3500 - $4100
Good Condition ..... $5800 - $7300
Very Good Condition ..... $8800 - $10300
Excellent Condition ...... $11700 - $13200
Exceptional Condition ....... $16200 - $20600

Nicko · 24 April 2010, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rfknauss

Steve, current reference prices listed for the 5513 Sub in Mondani's "100 Years of Rolex" book are as follows.

Fair Condition ...... $3500 - $4100
Good Condition ..... $5800 - $7300
Very Good Condition ..... $8800 - $10300
Excellent Condition ...... $11700 - $13200
Exceptional Condition ....... $16200 - $20600

Cheers Richard!

Nicko · 24 April 2010, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TurboWatch

but the values of the 5513, and 5512 have increased almost 30% over the past year, so it'll take sometimes for the market to digest. But hang on to it Niko, you have a winner in your hand there.

Wow, 30%...That's a big increase...

DRAWTOOL · 24 April 2010, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rfknauss

Steve, current reference prices listed for the 5513 Sub in Mondani's "100 Years of Rolex" book are as follows.

Fair Condition ...... $3500 - $4100
Good Condition ..... $5800 - $7300
Very Good Condition ..... $8800 - $10300
Excellent Condition ...... $11700 - $13200
Exceptional Condition ....... $16200 - $20600

Well played Richard!

CaveDiver · 24 April 2010, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rfknauss

Steve, current reference prices listed for the 5513 Sub in Mondani's "100 Years of Rolex" book are as follows.

Fair Condition ...... $3500 - $4100
Good Condition ..... $5800 - $7300
Very Good Condition ..... $8800 - $10300
Excellent Condition ...... $11700 - $13200
Exceptional Condition ....... $16200 - $20600

This is interesting. What about a 5512? Also, do they define what, very good, excellent and exceptional ratings require?
Thanks

Perdu · 24 April 2010, 10:40 AM

My wife bought me one in 1988 and I sold it. Duh!

rfknauss · 24 April 2010, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CaveDiver

This is interesting. What about a 5512? Also, do they define what, very good, excellent and exceptional ratings require?
Thanks

Current reference prices listed for the 5512 Sub in Mondani's "100 Years of Rolex" book are as follows.

Fair Condition ...... $4100 - $4700
Good Condition ..... $6700 - $8100
Very Good Condition ..... $9100 - $10300
Excellent Condition ...... $11700 - $14700
Exceptional Condition ....... $19100 - $23500

They do not define what each rating requires ...... I only have the iPhone version of Mondani's book ..... so I'm not sure if it is defined in the book itself.
Perhaps one of our TRF sellers could give their opinion on the requirements for each condition.

pz93c · 24 April 2010, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Perdu

My wife bought me one in 1988 and I sold it. Duh!

Bet you look like your avatar saying that.

Love Frankie Howerd.

sakuraba · 24 April 2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicko

like with regards to value down the road? I know these watches have appreciated a great deal over the years and I was wondering what the future might hold for them. It's an early model if you don't already know, it's a 1.7 mil serial circa 1967.

Don't know about the watch's value down the road, but you might want to customize it. Maybe install a superdome plexi?

Nicko · 24 April 2010, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sakuraba

Don't know about the watch's value down the road, but you might want to customize it. Maybe install a superdome plexi?

Why? and do you have any pics of one with a superdome installed?

Nicko · 24 April 2010, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sakuraba

Don't know about the watch's value down the road, but you might want to customize it. Maybe install a superdome plexi?

Why? and do you have any pics of one with a superdome installed?

truetime · 26 April 2010, 02:10 AM

dont know about the price range, but my GREAT FRIEND
always educated me the CONDITION is the most important!!!!!

and Steve, i love this photo

bests,
Krit

mike · 26 April 2010, 02:17 AM

Steve, the 5513 is certainly not a rare reference, but it shows that rarity and collectability don't always go hand in hand. It's hard to imagine a collection of vintage Rolex divers without a 5513.

It's a reference that IMO is a win-win in that it represents a great daily wear with a good measure of potential upside as new collectors come into the hobby.

Speed · 26 April 2010, 02:22 AM

My search goes on for an all original 5513 - no WG surrounds - w/ original bracelet, box & papers .

sakuraba · 28 April 2010, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicko

Why? and do you have any pics of one with a superdome installed?

The superdome is far more streamlined than the standard crystal. Changing it would be a matter of taste as not everyone is crazy about the standard crystal and its tall sides.

Don't have pics of a superdome of my own, and I'm not sure about protocol regarding posting someone else's pic since I no longer know who posted them

(I have this habit of saving awesome pics on my computer for referrence, and not remembering who posted them

)

Lion · 28 April 2010, 01:43 AM

Isn't it hard to predict what the future holds especially when forecasting price(value). I say wear it and enjoy it and whatever happens...happens!!!

pz93c · 28 April 2010, 02:53 AM

Future looks bleak brother.

Once you've had vintage, you can't go back.

22 April 2010, 04:39 AM	#1
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	Now that I have a 5513, what does the future look like with regards to value down the road? I know these watches have appreciated a great deal over the years and I was wondering what the future might hold for them. It's an early model if you don't already know, it's a 1.7 mil serial circa 1967.

23 April 2010, 04:23 PM	#8
TurboWatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,641	I hope it goes sky high for you Niko but the values of the 5513, and 5512 have increased almost 30% over the past year, so it'll take sometimes for the market to digest. But hang on to it Niko, you have a winner in your hand there.

24 April 2010, 07:52 AM	#9
rfknauss 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Richard Location: Macungie, PA Watch: 5513 Sub, LV Sub Posts: 14,497	Steve, current reference prices listed for the 5513 Sub in Mondani's "100 Years of Rolex" book are as follows. Fair Condition ...... $3500 - $4100 Good Condition ..... $5800 - $7300 Very Good Condition ..... $8800 - $10300 Excellent Condition ...... $11700 - $13200 Exceptional Condition ....... $16200 - $20600 __________________ *"Few things in life give man as great a pleasure as wearing a Rolex!"* TRF's "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Patron

24 April 2010, 10:40 AM	#14
Perdu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Gary Location: GMT-6 Watch: GMT Posts: 3,350	My wife bought me one in 1988 and I sold it. Duh! __________________ Omega Seamaster 300M GMT Noire Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra 8500 Benson 1937 Sterling Silver Hunter

28 April 2010, 01:43 AM	#24
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Isn't it hard to predict what the future holds especially when forecasting price(value). I say wear it and enjoy it and whatever happens...happens!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

22 April 2010, 04:46 AM	#2
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Steve , why don't receive it and wear it for a while first ... and think of selling it later. Serious , they must be one of the best models to have in terms of gaining value . Knowing where it came from , you should have a nice specimen . We see all too many " rebuilds " popping up for sale . I believe only the "good " ones will increase in value .

22 April 2010, 05:01 AM	#4
Renoir "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Renato Location: New York Posts: 2,396	Steve, since it's an honest, early model....you're investment should be safe. It also helps that they aren't making 'em anymore!

23 April 2010, 04:11 PM	#7
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	Anyone else have any information on future value?

26 April 2010, 02:10 AM	#20
truetime "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Krit Location: GMT +0 Watch: 1652055131675 Posts: 302	dont know about the price range, but my GREAT FRIEND always educated me the CONDITION is the most important!!!!! and Steve, i love this photo bests, Krit

26 April 2010, 02:17 AM	#21
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Steve, the 5513 is certainly not a rare reference, but it shows that rarity and collectability don't always go hand in hand. It's hard to imagine a collection of vintage Rolex divers without a 5513. It's a reference that IMO is a win-win in that it represents a great daily wear with a good measure of potential upside as new collectors come into the hobby.

26 April 2010, 02:22 AM	#22
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	My search goes on for an all original 5513 - no WG surrounds - w/ original bracelet, box & papers .

28 April 2010, 02:53 AM	#25
pz93c "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Brian Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 2,776	Future looks bleak brother. Once you've had vintage, you can't go back.

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