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Old 9 May 2010, 01:42 PM   #1
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is it weird that I like the 14060M no date COSC sub better then the non COSC one?

I like that extra bit of writing on the dial. I understand the "non-clutter" dial prefrence/argument, and I'm kinda surprised that I don't agree with it.

But I don't. When I save up my beer money, I'm getting the COSC one.
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Old 9 May 2010, 01:49 PM   #2
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I like that extra bit of writing on the dial. I understand the "non-clutter" dial prefrence/argument, and I'm kinda surprised that I don't agree with it.

But I don't. When I save up my beer money, I'm getting the COSC one.
It is a little weird, and against the common grain.......But I like going against what the masses think.

I don't really mind the extra text on the dial, it is the engraved rehaut that bugs me. But hey, at least you are considering a watch with lug-holes, so that is a good thing
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Old 9 May 2010, 01:53 PM   #3
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Nothing weird about your personal preference. Rolex has been making a killing over each person's taste.

Your wrist should have what it wants.
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Old 9 May 2010, 02:21 PM   #5
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it is the engraved rehaut that bugs me.
what's that? What's a "rehaut?"
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Old 9 May 2010, 02:26 PM   #6
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Rehaut is French for flange and it refers to the vertical stainless "wall" between the dial and the crystal.

The current watches, or most, anyway, have the coronet engraved at twelve o'clock, the word Rolex repeated around the rehaut, with the serial number at six o'clock, or something like that.

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Old 9 May 2010, 02:31 PM   #7
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Rehaut is French for flange and it refers to the vertical stainless "wall" between the dial and the crystal.

The current watches, or most, anyway, have the coronet at twelve o'clock, the word Rolex repeated around the rehaut, with the serial number at six o'clock, or something like that.
yeah, that Rolex around the rehaut does kinda blow
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Old 9 May 2010, 02:40 PM   #8
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Not at all weird; it's your money and hopefully a relationship with a watch that you will have for a very long time. Choose what makes you happy. Good luck.
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Old 9 May 2010, 07:21 PM   #9
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I agree with the OP on this one.

I remember when i saw a Rolex in flesh for the first time, it had the "Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified" writing on the dial and since then i couldnīt imagine a Rolex without it. 14060 without the COSC-writing feels so "naked".
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Old 9 May 2010, 07:35 PM   #10
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I like the clean look with the 14060M. Of course, that's just me.
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Old 9 May 2010, 08:33 PM   #11
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I am with you - I prefer the COSC statement on the dial of the 14060M as I think it enhances the overall appearance. That said I think most members of this Forum prefer the non-COSC dial - just a matter of personal taste.

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Rehaut is French for flange and it refers to the vertical stainless "wall" between the dial and the crystal.

The current watches, or most, anyway, have the coronet engraved at twelve o'clock, the word Rolex repeated around the rehaut, with the serial number at six o'clock, or something like that.

Hey, I'm famous!!! Grady is using my pic as an example to explain something on a forum

JJ, that is how you know that you have made it..............When your pictures pop-up being used by someone else on various fora on the internet. Hopefully you can get there someday, but I believe everyone is scared-off by those woolly forests you call arm-hair.
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Old 9 May 2010, 10:42 PM   #13
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I like the COSC version - just bought the last one my AD had!

Interestingly enough, although most on TRF seem to prefer the non-COSC version, I would think in the long run the COSC version will actually turn out to be much rarer (since Rolex produced the non-COSC version for a much longer period of time)?
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I like the COSC version - just bought the last one my AD had!

Interestingly enough, although most on TRF seem to prefer the non-COSC version, I would think in the long run the COSC version will actually turn out to be much rarer (since Rolex produced the non-COSC version for a much longer period of time)?
You speak as if the COSC 14060M has been ceased from production. Honestly, there is no telling how much longer they will produce this particular model IMHO.
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Old 9 May 2010, 11:52 PM   #15
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Old 10 May 2010, 12:02 AM   #16
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You speak as if the COSC 14060M has been ceased from production. Honestly, there is no telling how much longer they will produce this particular model IMHO.
You are correct sir!

I remember before Basel there was much speculation that the COSC 14060M would be discontinued, but Rolex displayed it this year, so it appears to still be in production... When I purchased my 14060, just before this year's Basel show, my AD said it was the last one they had, and that they had placed an order for more several months previously, but nothing had arrived. They thought that perhaps Rolex was discontinuing it?

Like with "all things Rolex", nobody really knows anything in advance of it actually happening. Heck, my AD told me they aren't even made aware of price increases in advance. One day, a new price list simply arrives from Rolex, with no warning, and with a requirement to return the existing price list by return post. It appears that ADs place orders for watches, and the watches show up if and when Rolex decides to fill the orders. All estimates/predictions appear to be pure conjecture, no matter who is doing the predicting! <grin>

IMHO (and it's only conjecture), as Rolex continues to move the Sub models to maxi dials, ceramic bezels and updated bracelets/clasps, it's only a matter of time before the 14060 is eclipsed by a "new & improved" version. Might be next year, might not...
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Hey, I'm famous!!! Grady is using my pic as an example to explain something on a forum....
I'm glad you spoke up. When I decided to post a picture to illustrate the rehaut, I went to my file of Rolex pictures that I've collected over the last couple of years.

Yours was the best I could find. Of course, I have no idea who took what or where they came from by now.

As for the aesthetics of the engraved rehaut, I have to say that because of fine pictures like jclevoy's I wasn't very fond of the concept either. However, when you view the watches with the naked eye in normal lighting, the engraving is next to invisible and is not obtrusive at all.

It's like the coronet on the crystal. We have photos on the board that make the laser etching look as obvious as the nose on your face, when in fact, there are some folks who've never managed to find it on their own watches.

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Old 10 May 2010, 01:40 AM   #18
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It is not weird. I also like the extra text. It reminds me of the old 5512 vs 5513 in a good way.

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I like that extra bit of writing on the dial. I understand the "non-clutter" dial prefrence/argument, and I'm kinda surprised that I don't agree with it.

But I don't. When I save up my beer money, I'm getting the COSC one.
Nothing wrong or right my friend. It is all individual liking and preference.. I like the COSC one with extra text on the dial and also the engraved rehaut...
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<snip>..............IMHO (and it's only conjecture), as Rolex continues to move the Sub models to maxi dials, ceramic bezels and updated bracelets/clasps, it's only a matter of time before the 14060 is eclipsed by a "new & improved" version. Might be next year, might not...
Personally, I hope they leave the current 14060M "as is" for a number of years so that there will at least be an entry level sub that is not prohibitively priced, and is a little reminiscent of the subs of old.
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You speak as if the COSC 14060M has been ceased from production. Honestly, there is no telling how much longer they will produce this particular model IMHO.
Have to agree and exactly the same movement whether tested or not. Fact today most modern movements all brands and prices, with some careful regulation,could pass the now the quite antiquated COSC test.
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Personally, I hope they leave the current 14060M "as is" for a number of years so that there will at least be an entry level sub that is not prohibitively priced, and is a little reminiscent of the subs of old.
I hope they leave it "as is" too! The simplicity and non-bling straightforwardness of the 14060M is what attracted me to it in the first place!
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I like the 5513 dial, so clean and really nice looking.
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Nothing weird in your taste!!
Thatīs what personal tastes are all about!!

In my case, I own a 14060M COSC, bought NIB at a local AD, because I couldnīt get the non COSC version, though I looked after it.

I really would prefer the Rolex watches without the large inscription on its dial. I find this inscription too long and that it deserves to be stamped on the case back better.

The uncluttered dial of the 14060 non COSC reminds me that of the classic 5513, plain, simple and timeless... but then... These are just personal tastes!!

Enjoy your watch, its a Great Rolex indeed!

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