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Old 8 July 2010, 04:02 PM   #31
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Hey Joe ... beter take a walk on the wild side .. with your technical stuff . You forgot to calculate with the "cojones"
I'm more then happy to take that walk Tristan.

Personally I'm very happy to see Spain advance, and now they really MUST win against Holland (which have a team in this tournament, that I really don't like - to much foul play and diving, etc).

So vamos Spain!

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Old 9 July 2010, 04:30 AM   #33
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Isn't that octopus in Germany?
He, or she may be calamari for dinner if Spain wins.
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/ne...308/index.html

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I wouldn't like to call this one, Holland haven't lost in 20 games, Spain are full of talented players (As are the Dutch), all in all it should be a superb final
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Old 9 July 2010, 06:39 AM   #36
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Dave ... do you want me to call it for you ?
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I wouldn't like to call this one, Holland haven't lost in 20 games, Spain are full of talented players (As are the Dutch), all in all it should be a superb final
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That's right, Frans..............and not a single loss (not even a draw) in this World Cup - all wins so far!!
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Nu krijgen we de Nederlanders op ons dak !
That will make it even harder NOT getting that 26th victory
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I stand corrected good sir.

Guys.... all streaks come to an end. It is fact of life. Besides, Holland has never faced such a determined team with this much talent!!!!!:thumbsup :
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Dave ... do you want me to call it for you ?
I am in the good position of being a neutral, I will enjoy the game and some Pimms, will get drunk without knowing it.
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The dutch got to a final once before , the spanish never got there before . Let the best team win ! .. Spain !!!! OLE
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I'm more then happy to take that walk Tristan.

Personally I'm very happy to see Spain advance, and now they really MUST win against Holland (which have a team in this tournament, that I really don't like - to much foul play and diving, etc).

So vamos Spain!

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The number of foul plays can be measured by the yellow and red cards. We are not at the top. The diving? Are they any worse than other sides? Me thinks not, even if I'm Dutch. But perhaps you can explain to me what you dislike about this team. Technically, not with biassed and emotional dislikes.
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The dutch got to a final once before , the spanish never got there before . Let the best team win ! .. Spain !!!! OLE
They got to two finals before: 1974 and 1978, both days still scar our nation
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I think it will be a cracking game, the best two teams in Europe, now the best two teams in the world, Im really looking forward to it.
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They got to two finals before: 1974 and 1978, both days still scar our nation
Of course you did , the glory days of dutch football .. Johan Cruyff and plenty of other great players . The glory years the AJAX team !
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Of course you did , the glory days of dutch football .. Johan Cruyff and plenty of other great players . The glory years the AJAX team !
The 1974 side was the best. On paper. You're only best if you hold that cup in your hands and they didn't
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Frans ? Derde keer goede keer ? Of gaan wij hier een serieus feetje bouwen op zondag ?
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Several of my colleagues have stated that they won't be at the office early next Monday if 'we' win, me including. Germany is our 'angst gegner' but they are eliminated. May the best side win
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The number of foul plays can be measured by the yellow and red cards. We are not at the top. The diving? Are they any worse than other sides? Me thinks not, even if I'm Dutch. But perhaps you can explain to me what you dislike about this team. Technically, not with biassed and emotional dislikes.
I don't want to start a big discussion here, but since you asked me, I will of course try to answer your questions.

No, you're not at the top of the list when it comes to yellow and red cards. But does that say much really? Have you seen the referring this WC? How is it even possible for a guy like Van Bommel to not get a red card against Uruguay? He gets a yellow at the end for arguing with the ref... hmmm

Start by reading this article; mark-van-bommel-is-a

This is nice, isn't it? (Look at his left leg/foot and how he plans it in advance) No foul was given by the ref, and this happened just before the 1-0 goal.





Robben and Sneijder - you don't think they dive/over reacting, a lot that is? I was watching the game between Holland and Brazil. One of the commentators used to play for PSV Eindhoven in the 70's (5 years), and always admits that he is cheering for Holland when he is commentating their games. After 60 min he said something like; "I can't take this any longer, if he (that being Robben) continues like this, I'm going to stop watching the game..." He wasn't as harsh in the Uruguay game (same guy commentating), but I can tell you that he wasn't very pleased with what he was seeing. Many people I've been talking to (and also reading article, blogs etc) thinks Robben is catching up, and doing it pretty fast, with the nr1 diving player in the world - Ronaldo. But then again, perhaps I'm just listening or reading the wrong articles. Sneijer arguably doesn't dive as much, but unfortunately way to much for my liking. It also seems to be very difficult for him to accept, that the ref sometimes actually needs to give the opponents a free kick.

Here's another nice clip from the Holland - Uruguay game;
"REF! I got hit with an ax in my back. Do something!! Oh great, he got a yellow card so now I'm fine and can easily take that free kick myself..."


Sorry, I don't have anything against Nederland as a nation. I usually like to watch Holland play, and I remember the grand old days with Van Basten, Gullit, Rijkaard etc. It was a great show they put on when you guys won the EURO back in 88.
It's just that I don't like this particular team, and the way they play football (the way they do it).

Yes, one can easily argue that there are other teams out there with players acting exactly the same way. That is of course totally true, but I was talking about Holland in my previous post, because they are the ones in the final and therefore I was commenting on them since they will meet Spain.

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