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smartson · 16 July 2010, 02:45 PM

Hi all, newbie here.
I am thinking of getting a GMT. Considering this one but am perplexed at the model...
ROLEX Mens GMT MASTER DATE Quick-Set Steel Watch 16710
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ROLEX-Mens-GMT-MA...item5888975c0c

It says 16710, cal 3185, but dial says GMT Master! What do you guys think? Any comment about the seller Interwatches?

Thanks

TimeToGo · 16 July 2010, 10:25 PM

WELCOME TO THE FORUM!

You are correct, if the model is 16710, it should be a GMT Master II. It is possible the dial was replaced at some point.

Here is a little history:

http://www.gmtmasterhistory.com/gmt-...ref_16710.html

sakuraba · 17 July 2010, 01:18 AM

Have to agree, dial was replaced sometime ago.

But why didn't they use a replacement dial like an RSC would? RSCs have been known to replace with a newer dial, not an older, reference incompatible one like this.

Implies the use of an indie watchmaker for a relatively recent reference. Nothing wrong there, but now you have to check the cred of the indie.

BASSETHOUNDS · 17 July 2010, 01:33 AM

The bezel color separation at the 6 looks a bit off center to me .

sakuraba · 17 July 2010, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

The bezel color separation at the 6 looks a bit off center to me .

Color separation has been inconsistent through the years. Tough to tell a fugazi that way.

Here's a pic from our super mod, Mike.

Dan Pierce · 17 July 2010, 01:48 AM

If it doesn't add up, it doesn't add up.

I'd walk, strike that, run!
dP

ParisDakarBmw · 17 July 2010, 01:48 AM

Good catch!

BASSETHOUNDS · 17 July 2010, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sakuraba

Color separation has been inconsistent through the years. Tough to tell a fugazi that way.

Here's a pic from our super mod, Mike.

Great info Jib

smartson · 17 July 2010, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

If it doesn't add up, it doesn't add up.

I'd walk, strike that, run!
dP

Agreed. I walked away from it. In fact I checked other auctions of the same seller. I think they are very fancy watchmaker who put watch together from donor parts and sell for profit. Nothing wrong, just not my kind of tea.

16 July 2010, 02:45 PM	#1
smartson "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Roger Location: Toronto Posts: 604	Perplexed! GMT Master or 16710? Hi all, newbie here. I am thinking of getting a GMT. Considering this one but am perplexed at the model... ROLEX Mens GMT MASTER DATE Quick-Set Steel Watch 16710 http://cgi.ebay.ca/ROLEX-Mens-GMT-MA...item5888975c0c It says 16710, cal 3185, but dial says GMT Master! What do you guys think? Any comment about the seller Interwatches? Thanks

17 July 2010, 01:18 AM	#3
sakuraba "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Jib Location: SJ, California Watch: sun dial Posts: 8,189	Have to agree, dial was replaced sometime ago. But why didn't they use a replacement dial like an RSC would? RSCs have been known to replace with a newer dial, not an older, reference incompatible one like this. Implies the use of an indie watchmaker for a relatively recent reference. Nothing wrong there, but now you have to check the cred of the indie. __________________ F 14000 AirKing black F 16710 GMT Pepsi F 16570 Explorer II white T 16600 SD D 16610 LV "fine quality is remembered long after the pain of spending money" -Steve Mulholland

17 July 2010, 01:48 AM	#6
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16 July 2010, 10:25 PM	#2
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	WELCOME TO THE FORUM! You are correct, if the model is 16710, it should be a GMT Master II. It is possible the dial was replaced at some point. Here is a little history: http://www.gmtmasterhistory.com/gmt-...ref_16710.html

17 July 2010, 01:33 AM	#4
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	The bezel color separation at the 6 looks a bit off center to me .

17 July 2010, 01:48 AM	#7
ParisDakarBmw Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Paul Location: New Haven, CT Watch: 116610 Sub-C Posts: 6,552	Good catch!

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