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Old 1 August 2010, 05:25 AM   #1
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Hacking movements?

Hello,

Do any Panerai Luminor watches, that are currently in production, have a hacking seconds hand feature?

I'm going to make an educated guess and say that most likely the movements that are based on the Unitas 6497 (manual wind) probably aren't hacking and that the automatic movement Luminors probably are hacking?

Their website doesn't mention it anywhere.


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Old 1 August 2010, 06:13 AM   #2
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the new P9000s, and P2000 manufactured are hacking...
not too familiar with the ETA based ones...
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Old 1 August 2010, 10:30 AM   #3
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All the auto's hack. 6497's don't
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Old 2 August 2010, 01:21 AM   #4
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Hacking is an important feature IMHO.
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Old 2 August 2010, 01:43 AM   #5
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Even though references such as the 111 do not feature a hacking function it is possible the "self-hack" the watch.

From a rest wind the watch 3 or 4 turns and then apply slight back pressure to the winding stem in the setting position. This cause the seconds hand to stop (wait till it gets to 12). Set the seconds hand as desired, fully wind the watch and set the hour hand.

It's important to only wind a few turns from rest as references such as the 111 with their extended power reserve have a mainspring that will over power your efforts.

Doing this will not harm the movement and is done with many references (brands) that do not have a hacking function.
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Some of the in-house movements have the nifty 'seconds reset' feature, whereby the second hand resets at 12/0 when the crown is pulled out. The 233, 320, 270, etc... have this.
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Some of the in-house movements have the nifty 'seconds reset' feature, whereby the second hand resets at 12/0 when the crown is pulled out. The 233, 320, 270, etc... have this.
Really? That's nice to know...
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Really? That's nice to know...
Yes, it's a really useful feature but for some reason the 312 does not have it (as you will know)

Perhaps ironically, 6497s can be modified to to the same thing - and have a central second hand.
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Even though references such as the 111 do not feature a hacking function it is possible the "self-hack" the watch.

From a rest wind the watch 3 or 4 turns and then apply slight back pressure to the winding stem in the setting position. This cause the seconds hand to stop (wait till it gets to 12). Set the seconds hand as desired, fully wind the watch and set the hour hand.

It's important to only wind a few turns from rest as references such as the 111 with their extended power reserve have a mainspring that will over power your efforts.

Doing this will not harm the movement and is done with many references (brands) that do not have a hacking function.

That's a neat trick, Mike.

When you say "back pressure" do you mean wind it forward 3-4 times, then slightly wind it reverse? Or, do you mean pull the crown out farther? Or, push it in farther? :) Just want to be clear, thanks.

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Old 5 August 2010, 01:37 AM   #10
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That's a neat trick, Mike.

When you say "back pressure" do you mean wind it forward 3-4 times, then slightly wind it reverse? Or, do you mean pull the crown out farther? Or, push it in farther? :) Just want to be clear, thanks.

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Yep. It's called manually hacking. Just a couple turns then pop the winding crown out to the hands setting position. Because the 111 does not hack slight back pressure on the winding crown to freeze the small seconds hand (I do it on any 5 second marker) till the known time source and your watch are in sync then let go.

Set you hands to the correst time push in and wind the watch fully.

(Here's a little seceret you can't tell anybody)--Sometimes, depending on the movement strength giving a full wind will put you a second or two fast. If your movement is like this set it slow a second or two then wind to full.

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What's it called when the seconds hand automatically goes to the 12 o'clock position when setting the time? Whatever it is, I like it. :)
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What's it called when the seconds hand automatically goes to the 12 o'clock position when setting the time? Whatever it is, I like it. :)
Panerai call this 'seconds reset' (as per my earlier post) - very useful
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