DSSD: A Better buy than Sub C

[tgoose1]

I like both, but on a bad day the sub out sells the dweller by more than 10/1.

[therolexguy]

I wish there were fewer threads about the Deep Sea too since it would save me lots of money! The more pics I see, the more I think about it....and we all know where that leads.

[rfknauss]

Originally Posted by therolexguy

I wish there were fewer threads about the Deep Sea too since it would save me lots of money! The more pics I see, the more I think about it....and we all know where that leads.

[Tombstone]

If money were no object I would buy both.

[gpfps]

I've owned a 1680, SD, non date sub and a two tone blue sub. All were great watchs but my taste for watchs change. I own a DS now it and beats them all ! Ask me when I owned the others I would have said the same thing!

[Singslinger]

Both watches have their place in the Rolex lineup. Moreover, I don't think the two are mutually exclusive - I know Deepsea owners who own both (me, for example and at least 2 other WIS friends).

Is one watch "better'' than the other, as per the original question? For me, the question is better rephrased as "which one suits my needs better on any given day?''

For those occasions that demand an exclusively sporty look, I'd wear my Deepsea; for those which require a sporty look but with a bit more elegance or refinement, I'd wear my ceramic Sub.

And I agree with Mike - there shouldn't be a need to justify one's purchase by shooting down others. If all of us only liked Subs and GMTs, the world would be a pretty boring place.

[kol]

I have the SDDS, new Sub, old Sub in two versions plus 14060M. Furthermore, I am an eager diver.
If somebody like the SDDS, fine. I have also the old SD and I like it much more. When speaking about diving watches, one must remember that the ultimate limit in scuba diving is 60 meters. Few people are technical divers and again, very few technical divers go below 100 meters and just a couple to 200 meters. Any Rolex diving watch is good for all kinds of diving and for me, 14060M represents the DNA of Rolex diving watches in the best possible way.
Kari

[SeamasterGMT]

Originally Posted by DCgator

My first sports model Rolex is the Deepsea. If they had not made the DS I would've purchased the Sea Dweller for sure. I love my DS for everyday wear (on a Breitling Diver Pro II strap). Even before the ceramic bezel models came out my personal preference has always been the Sea Dweller and the GMT II. GMT IIc coming in a couple of days. Yeay!

Me too. I seriously looked at the GMT IIc and then settled on the SD4000. If the Deepsea had not come out then it would have been the SD4000 for sure...I still have something niggling at me to get that watch.

[TurboWatch]

Originally Posted by rolexsubdate

Even though they are different, it is like comparing apples to oranges,
I am reading a lot more reports of unsatisfied sub C people than unsatisfied DSSD people....

Eventhough the DSSD is not for everyone, those who do see it and handle it and do not buy it, most of them are awed by it and can't deny its appeal.

The same is not true for Sub C. Most look at it and don't wanna handle it... yet the DSSD draws a crowd...

In short, Rolex has done a better job creating the DSSD for a niche market then creating the Sub C for the masses....

yes, for those who have the wrists for it. What's the point of buying when you don't want to wear the watch because the darn thing looks like a "brick" on your wrist

[notlostyet]

Great looking "Brick" though

[andrew79]

each one has its own characteristics.... it doesn't mean a better buy against another....

[davestan]

Originally Posted by rolexsubdate

I am reading a lot more reports of unsatisfied sub C people than unsatisfied DSSD people....

Well I've heard the opposite....but they both have quite dominant individual appeals and therefore will self select their owners.

[jets]

Originally Posted by psv

Come on guys, this just sounds silly or like trying to justify your own purchase post the event.

The DSSD is not a better buy or a better watch. It doesn't matter how many times you repeat it to yourself, the argument still isn't a valid one.

The DSSD is a more extreme watch, arguably the most extreme automatic production dive watch in the world, but that doesn't make it a "better" watch or buy per se.

For the vast majority out there, the Sub (or great many other dive watches) is a more suitable buy and certainly extreme and durable enough. The DSSD was created after 20-30 years of innovation gap from Rolex - the regular SD used to be the most extreme dive watch but the design got long in the tooth and Rolex refused to update the bezel, put larger hands/plots and a new bracelet on it. When they came around the decided to win back the heavy-weight title in terms of depth rating, but again none of that makes it a better buy or a better watch. Just more extreme.

Some people feel better owning the most extreme instrument out there, for whatever reason. Other people own it because they like larger/heavier watches and Rolex didn't have any offering for them of many, many years.

Needless to say, Rolex will sell 50 Submariners for every DSSD they sell, simply because it is rather large/heavy/thick and for most people not an optimal everyday watch.

If you have one and it floats your boat - enjoy it, but there is no reason to keep making posts to put down the watches other people chose to own and pretending that your choice/hardware is better. Different perhaps, but not better by most definitions.

Rock on folks!

If I buy a Ram 3500HD pickup is it better or more extreme than someone else's Ram 1500? [sarcasm]Yes, I want a more extreme pickup than the one over there please...[/sarcasm]

Technically the dweller is a better watch to me because I don't need to take it off to adjust the bracelet. It's also better because it can withstand deeper depths than a sub. It's all relative and I do think the dweller is a better buy but I am biased

[rzielinski]

Originally Posted by TurboWatch

yes, for those who have the wrists for it. What's the point of buying when you don't want to wear the watch because the darn thing looks like a "brick" on your wrist

I've seen the "brick" in the store; it doesn't look that good.

[sakuraba]

Originally Posted by therolexguy

I wish there were fewer threads about the Deep Sea too since it would save me lots of money! The more pics I see, the more I think about it....and we all know where that leads.

Damn enablers!

[sleddog]

Originally Posted by sakuraba

Damn enablers!

King of the enablers right there!!!

[acadianl79]

Originally Posted by tgoose1

I like both, but on a bad day the sub out sells the dweller by more than 10/1.

Yes , the sub is common and everywhere...

Boring !

[stockae92]

i think its not just about money per feature list, its also about how does the watch look and feel on your wrist. I tried the DSSD but its just way too big

[sakuraba]

Originally Posted by sleddog1000

King of the enablers right there!!!

Look who's talking!

[Zed Homme]

Originally Posted by kol

I have the SDDS, new Sub, old Sub in two versions plus 14060M. Furthermore, I am an eager diver.
If somebody like the SDDS, fine. I have also the old SD and I like it much more. When speaking about diving watches, one must remember that the ultimate limit in scuba diving is 60 meters. Few people are technical divers and again, very few technical divers go below 100 meters and just a couple to 200 meters. Any Rolex diving watch is good for all kinds of diving and for me, 14060M represents the DNA of Rolex diving watches in the best possible way.
Kari

Very well said

I have the 14060, Seadweller, and Sub and assure you I cant wait to get a DSSD. Of course I am 6' 4" so I can carry it well, it is no bigger than other watches I own....

Originally Posted by sleddog1000

King of the enablers right there!!!

Yup

[sakuraba]

Originally Posted by Zed Homme

Yup

What are you taking his side for?

It takes a community to enable a WIS!

[Zed Homme]

No it doesn't, just you two....

It is interesting to me that the dssd is such a polarizing piece. For what it's worth, there hasn't been a dssd for sale on trf since June.....

[sakuraba]

Originally Posted by Zed Homme

It is interesting to me that the dssd is such a polarizing piece. For what it's worth, there hasn't been a dssd for sale on trf since June.....

Very interesting observation, Chris.

The Dweller line has always been a specialized line, aimed at a specific market and IMHO does not appeal to everyone. Since there are less out there compared to its Sub sibling, it inevitably becomes sought after long after production has ceased. I'm not sure if the DSSD will continue in this tradition, but I don't see why not.

FWIW I would grab a DSSD if it looked good on my puny wrists.

[Zed Homme]

Originally Posted by sakuraba

Very interesting observation, Chris.

Believe me, I've been looking...

[Andad]

Most Rolex Subdate C buyers would be more than happly with it as they have not previously owned a Subdate. Only owners of the old SubDate can compare the benefits, or otherwise, of long term ownership.
As for the DSSD the specifications speak for themselves.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by Zed Homme

Very well said

I have the 14060, Seadweller, and Sub and assure you I cant wait to get a DSSD. Of course I am 6' 4" so I can carry it well, it is no bigger than other watches I own....



Yup

[gold canyon]

You know what I think would be really relevant/enlightening to this discussion? Some really good side-by-side photo comparisons of the Sub C and Deep Sea. Anyone able to do this? I haven't seen it done here on TRF yet. I've seen side-by-sides of the new/old Sub, the Sub C and GMT2C, but not Sub C and Deep Sea.

[Zed Homme]

Another thing I am yet to see is a pic of a DSSD on a NATO....

[gold canyon]

Originally Posted by gold canyon

You know what I think would be really relevant/enlightening to this discussion? Some really good side-by-side photo comparisons of the Sub C and Deep Sea. Anyone able to do this? I haven't seen it done here on TRF yet. I've seen side-by-sides of the new/old Sub, the Sub C and GMT2C, but not Sub C and Deep Sea.

Since I really want to see this, I've started a separate thread regarding the above because I believe that perhaps it's a whole other topic and it could also give us some good, valuable information moving forward. Hope this helps.

[Hamish]

DSSD rocks