Is there a downside to all gold Rolexes?

[Joey_V]

Is there a downside to all gold Rolexes?

Provided you purchase a fair priced used one from TRF, does it not hold value compared to if you purchased a fair priced SS model - over time?

To simplify.

Purchase a SS GMTIIC - say 5K used in 2010. In 2020, would it still be worth atleast 5K given the retail is probably 12k?

or

Purchase a 18K GMTIIC - say $16K used in 2010. In 2020, would it still be worth atleast the $16K given the retail is probably near 35-40k?

[MortgageGuy]

The price And the fact that they are much more prone to scratching/denting... as gold is much softer than SS... thats all I can think of

[JP500]

And that it would be faux pax to wear it with casual clothing...

[MortgageGuy]

Originally Posted by JP500

And that it would be faux pax to wear it with casual clothing...

I would disagree, I wore my 18k GMT with shorts and a T-shirt all the time. IMO a Rolex goes with anything

[Joey_V]

Originally Posted by MortgageGuy

I would disagree, I wore my 18k GMT with shorts and a T-shirt all the time. IMO a Rolex goes with anything

I would almost even wear an all gold to the gym.... i think...

LOL!

No seriously, all gold would have to go with anything from non-casual formal stuff to suits to short and shirt.

[rangrov]

At the end of the day an all gold rolex is the ultimate goal, nearly everybody could afford a stainless steel rolex if they did some saveing, the all gold price just scares people sh#t#e#ss i bought mine for my 50th birthday and i do not regret it one bit, in fact because i worked on the AD for mega discount my watch now would just scrape a tiny profit, so in a few years it should be better than money in the bank, as for scratching dings and marks, mine seems no differant from my stainless steel watches, anyway a service at rolex and hey presto its new again, so to the guys who slate all gold rolexs, if you were to be given one for keeps would you still slate them, maybe a touch of jellousy creeps in when you see all gold... My advice is if you can afford a gold rolex then buy it, cos wearing a rolex makes you feel good, wearing an all gold rolex makes you feel your a king...

[rangrov]

P.S and you can allways get a good price for scrap gold, scrap stainless steel is worthless, ha ha ha

[Joey_V]

I had a lead on an all gold GMTIIC... but I may just wait it out. I'm sure I can pick one up without sacrificing my GV/Daytona in less than 2 years.

Ah well... the chase continues!

Joey :)

[Richard.]

Originally Posted by JP500

And that it would be faux pax to wear it with casual clothing...

I think you mean "faux pas". And actually I disagree, especially if it's a sports watch.

[Richard.]

Values of the 18ct pieces have not held up as well as the SS watches. Older examples do, therefore, offer excellent value at the moment and their prices are under-pinned to some extent by the rising price of gold.

Mainly it's a fashion thing but also they do scratch and stretch much more.

If you're looking for an investment, I would recommend SS (and vintage).

[Joey_V]

Thanks fellas!

[GradyPhilpott]

If you want it buy it, regardless of the resale value, and wear it with any attire and to any function you desire.

Don't sweat the small stuff.

[Joey_V]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

If you want it buy it, regardless of the resale value, and wear it with any attire and to any function you desire.

Don't sweat the small stuff.

Only problem is the small stuff costs big stuff.

[watchyou]

No Downside in gold for me, I got this for my 50th. Try to have at least 1 all-gold and the rest in all-steel. Good luck!

[Ebruner]

No downside. Stainless is everywhere, Gold makes a statement.

-Eddie

[JUSTROLEXES]

Gold watches are just stunning,,, you have to consider that the yellow gold is a soft metal and you just have to treat it with love, White gold has more Nickel and there for it is stronger
and i wear Yellow gold with my short and sandals

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by Joey_V

Only problem is the small stuff costs big stuff.

Well, then you're the only person who can make those decisions.

For my self, if I wanted a solid gold Rolex, I wouldn't care if it held its value. It'd be nice if it did, but if I bought it, selling it would be out of the question.

But that's just me.

[Art 1]

No.

[PHDX2]

Go for the gold!

[Mockingbird]

Originally Posted by rangrov

At the end of the day an all gold rolex is the ultimate goal, nearly everybody could afford a stainless steel rolex if they did some saveing, the all gold price just scares people sh#t#e#ss i bought mine for my 50th birthday and i do not regret it one bit, in fact because i worked on the AD for mega discount my watch now would just scrape a tiny profit, so in a few years it should be better than money in the bank, as for scratching dings and marks, mine seems no differant from my stainless steel watches, anyway a service at rolex and hey presto its new again, so to the guys who slate all gold rolexs, if you were to be given one for keeps would you still slate them, maybe a touch of jellousy creeps in when you see all gold... My advice is if you can afford a gold rolex then buy it, cos wearing a rolex makes you feel good, wearing an all gold rolex makes you feel your a king...

If I was offered ANY gold Rolex right now with the provision that I couldn't sell it, I would decline. I would have no use for it, I have one gold watch which barely receives any wrist time at this point, but is TINY so it isn't ostentatious.

If you're at the point that you can afford a gold Rolex, do yourself a favor and spend it on a Glashutte or a Jaeger LeCoultre with complications in the same price range. (and this is assuming it's all less than 15-20k) If you're buying a Rolex above that price-range, anyway I'd assume that you've never heard of an annual calendar or a moonphase before.

[InVision]

My best advice is that if you want a gold Rolex watch get the best deal you can. Also do not get 2 of them, because you will only wear one when time is right and the other will get claustrophobia.

Mike

[Otto]

Originally Posted by Richard.

Values of the 18ct pieces have not held up as well as the SS watches. Older examples do, therefore, offer excellent value at the moment and their prices are under-pinned to some extent by the rising price of gold.

Mainly it's a fashion thing but also they do scratch and stretch much more.

If you're looking for an investment, I would recommend SS (and vintage).

If you're saying gold watches are a fashion thing, I'd have to disagree. I'd say SS watches are a fashion thing; there are just so many at affordable prices. Gold watches, in whatever shade of gold, represent the classic watches that have endured over time, whether Rolex, Patek, Breguet, whatever.

[Time Collector]

Originally Posted by rangrov

At the end of the day an all gold rolex is the ultimate goal, nearly everybody could afford a stainless steel rolex if they did some saveing, the all gold price just scares people sh#t#e#ss i bought mine for my 50th birthday and i do not regret it one bit, in fact because i worked on the AD for mega discount my watch now would just scrape a tiny profit, so in a few years it should be better than money in the bank, as for scratching dings and marks, mine seems no differant from my stainless steel watches, anyway a service at rolex and hey presto its new again, so to the guys who slate all gold rolexs, if you were to be given one for keeps would you still slate them, maybe a touch of jellousy creeps in when you see all gold... My advice is if you can afford a gold rolex then buy it, cos wearing a rolex makes you feel good, wearing an all gold rolex makes you feel your a king...

" maybe a touch of jelllllousy creeps in when you see all gold"
When I see a fellow Rolex wearer sporting the all gold I feel a sense of brotherhood and Pride not jealous. I too owned a YMII, but sold it earlier this year at a very good price to get a Royal oak offshore AP. And just to let you know that Rolex will only buff or polish the watch seven times, that is what I was told when I purchased my YMII.

Anyway whatever you decide I'm sure that you will be happy because its a rolex.

[Joey_V]

I've decided that I'm just going to lay low and wait for what pops up.

For now, I don't have the sensible means of getting an all gold Rolex... but in less than 2 years I will - if my luck prevails.

So it's more of a matter of time.

But you guys above are right... an all gold Rolex is surely somethin' else.

[RLXtrader]

I wore my yellow gold president to school wearing t shirt and khakis. But I am too young to carry the watch in its entirety, so it is hard for me to even wear it formally. I am trying to save for a gold sports model I think that would suit me best for any situation casual or not.

[FremStar]

Originally Posted by Mockingbird

If I was offered ANY gold Rolex right now with the provision that I couldn't sell it, I would decline. I would have no use for it, I have one gold watch which barely receives any wrist time at this point, but is TINY so it isn't ostentatious.

If you're at the point that you can afford a gold Rolex, do yourself a favor and spend it on a Glashutte or a Jaeger LeCoultre with complications in the same price range. (and this is assuming it's all less than 15-20k) If you're buying a Rolex above that price-range, anyway I'd assume that you've never heard of an annual calendar or a moonphase before.

I understand this is your opinion, however, to state that someone spending $15k+ on a Gold Rolex or any Rolex (Vintage) for that matter has never heard of an annual calendar or moonphase is completely innacurate, I am just speaking from experience. I will leave the complicated timepieces for my dad to collect while I pick a gold or platinum piece or two. I think JoeyV as well as fellow WIS's are well versed on the differences between non-complicated and complicated horological references.

[rangrov]

OH Yea mockinbird were all going to decline a £20000.00 watch, NOT, why is it when people know the situation will never happen they get all morall and tree hugging, and as for jaeger ive had one and didnt like it, we are individuals and this individual likes rolex, I like the style and the models, plus i like knowing if my arse is hanging out, i can at least get most of my money back. If some one offered me anything i would take it then decide at a later date what to do with it, there is no doubt the gold seperates the men from the boys, ha ha. Good on you watchyou for treating yourself for your 50th, remember guys you get one shot at life and i whant it all.........

[shirtguy]

i wear this watch all the time dressed up, as well as dress down and yes it's 18k gold

[JetRanger]

An important consideration in market valuation down the road is the recent trend in the larger sized Rolex's. The trend is that the old 36mm Rolex watch is now the new Ladies size, and the new men's standard size is the Gen II 41 mm (e.g., note the Datejust II, DDII, etc.) If you bought a DD 36 mm, I'd guess its future value will plummet, once the 41mm takes a firm foothold, which is now happening right before our very eyes. The Rolex Lady’s segment is a smaller market segment than the Men’s Rolex line, so the trend for females to go for the 36mm won't be enough to offset this problem (e.g., rapid devaluation of the used 36mm Rolex).

IMHO, it probably makes sense to not buy a new 36mm watch today (especially where the stakes are highest, like in solid platinum or 18Kt), and go for the 41mm platinum or 18Kt, especially if you have any thought of selling it in the future. Keep in mind that you never know...

[Mockingbird]

Originally Posted by rangrov

OH Yea mockinbird were all going to decline a £20000.00 watch, NOT, why is it when people know the situation will never happen they get all morall and tree hugging, and as for jaeger ive had one and didnt like it, we are individuals and this individual likes rolex, I like the style and the models, plus i like knowing if my arse is hanging out, i can at least get most of my money back. If some one offered me anything i would take it then decide at a later date what to do with it, there is no doubt the gold seperates the men from the boys, ha ha. Good on you watchyou for treating yourself for your 50th, remember guys you get one shot at life and i whant it all.........

If I wasn't allowed to sell it, I wouldn't take it. It's as simple as that. It loses all monetary value if I can't sell it, and I know I'd never wear it.

Anyway "there is no doubt the gold separates the men from the boys"? I beg to differ, I feel that watches with a large amount of precious metal and gems are quite feminine. At that point it's no longer a watch and becomes a piece of jewelry, and I'm sure you'd agree with me that jewelry is quite effeminate.

There are no watches that "separate the men from the boys" there are just the watches that you'd like to own. My standpoint on watches and collection comes from an horological standpoint, as my love for the hobby comes from the art of watchmaking and complications, not from the setting of gems. Taste is subjective of course, but when it comes down to it I admire the work, passion, and genius that goes into perpetual calendars, power reserves, moonphases, big dates, and especially flyback chronographs.

This is what my interest in watches is all about, the technological and engineering marvels that have been created thus far. Because of this interest and belief, I have often expressed the view that I will never buy a Rolex for more than $10,000, for the simple fact that I don't believe it to be worth the money. Rolex makes a spectacular stainless steel watch for less than $10,000, everything priced past there is the same movement in a more expensive case. This in my mind classifies it as jewelry. If I buy a $20-30,000 watch I expect a few things, handcrafting, and it not being a simple movement are two of them.

Of course this is an arguably objective point of view, and my own bias for aesthetics does come into the choosing process, but these are my standards for a watch in that price range. Even starting at $10,000 there are MANY watches that fulfill that criteria.

Now of course there are quite a few watches that are made in precious metal that I'd LOVE to obtain some day. None of them however are Rolexes. A good example of this would be the A. Lange Datograph. I love this watch, and it's my grail of grails. It's made in only precious metals however. Of course I can excuse that because of the magnificent complications that it houses, it's finishing, and it's unique characteristics. Of course if this watch was offered in stainless steel I'd prefer it, but for now if I had to choose platinum is fine with me.

I hope maybe that after reading this that you can understand my thought process and comprehend why I would never buy a gold Rolex. This is of course my own point of view however, which is from an horological standpoint. After reconsideration I can respect that you like what you like, and that it doesn't come from the same style of thinking that I adhere to.

What I often fail to consider is that not everybody thinks the way I do.