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Old 15 November 2010, 11:08 AM   #1
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No Date Sub C?

Hello all,

I joined this forum last week and have enjoyed the stories, answers, comments and thought provoking discussions; great forum!

Several weeks ago I went to my local AD to take a look at my favorite Rolex, the Submariner. I own a Breitling and an Omega (currently my Seamaster is my daily wearer). When I went to see the Submariner, I was a bit surprised that the price had jumped up to $7300 and some change. Last year when I looked at this watch I could have purchased it for $5200 out the door.

When the nice lady took the Sub out for me, I put it on and it caught me a bit off guard. It had changed. The lines that I remembered (my Uncle wore one for as long as I can remember and I loved that watch) had changed. I remember my first impression (not to offend anyone) was that I simply did not like the new shape. Since this is going to be my first Rolex, I wanted to make sure I was going to be happy.

I was informed that this Sub that I was trying on was the new model. I asked if they had any of the old style Subs and was met with a very quick "Nope - you won't find one of those around here". I wore the new Sub C for several minutes and simply could not justify the price increase; the new bracelet, ceramic bezel, etc are nice, but it is almost like the changes were not well thought out; almost forced.

Well, if I was going to purchase it I wanted to make sure I got the No Date Sub (more of a tool for me - diving, boating, etc) and I simply do not have any use for the Date version. I was told by the young lady that there is not a No Date Sub in the new model, and she did not know if or when there would be a No Date Sub C. When asked if they made a 2010 No Date Sub she said yes, but it would be difficult to find (sales pitch perhaps).

So, I called my Uncle and he found an AD in his state that had the new 2010 No Date Sub (14060m). He knew the AD well and purchased it for me at a good price (about the same as I was expecting to pay last year). I sent him a check and he is shipping it (was supposed to be here Friday, but according to USPS tracking it will be here tomorrow!!!).

So, now my question: Does anyone on this board know if and when there will be a No Date Sub C? Is there a significant difference in the quality/performance of the Sub C verses my 14060m? I am not concerned with re-sale, as this is going to be perhaps my last watch.

Thanks in advance for your input...


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Old 15 November 2010, 11:21 AM   #2
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Congrats in advance on your SubND.

Only time will tell, but knowing Rolex, they'll probably introduce a ceramic version of the 14060 in a year or two.

Post pics!
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Old 15 November 2010, 11:27 AM   #3
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nice story,until Rolex announce new models no one knows,as you say you don't rate the changes on the sub c ,you can sit back and enjoy your ND,if they were to make changes to the ND I would think they would be the same as the sub c.
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Old 15 November 2010, 11:32 AM   #4
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I think it will be a few years before we see any changes to the sub, especially since it's price point will bring in more buyers than the now expensive sub date.

You just purchased yourself a great watch, congrats and enjoy it for life.
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Old 15 November 2010, 11:39 AM   #5
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The No Date Sub runs on average, 5 minutes slower than the Sub Date.

































All you need to decide is whether you want / need to see the date or not!
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Old 15 November 2010, 12:47 PM   #6
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Congrats in advance on your SubND.

Only time will tell, but knowing Rolex, they'll probably introduce a ceramic version of the 14060 in a year or two.

Post pics!
Thanks Joe - hopefully will be able to post pics tomorrow. I am curious as to how the Sub watch band will feel/wear as compared to my Seamaster.



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Old 15 November 2010, 12:52 PM   #7
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The No Date Sub runs on average, 5 minutes slower than the Sub Date.
Whew! Glad it is not 5 days; I would have to buy that date feature then!




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Old 15 November 2010, 01:14 PM   #8
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In my opinion the Sub bracelet on my LV and sub-c are lighter and feel much better on the wrist compared to the omega planet ocean I recently sold. PO bracelet was quite heavy and scuffed easily, I ended up switching out for gator band.
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Old 15 November 2010, 01:24 PM   #9
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congratulation!!
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Old 15 November 2010, 01:32 PM   #10
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pix on the ND are highly appreciated...
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Old 15 November 2010, 01:59 PM   #11
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Congratulations on the new Sub..

The 14060M is the last of the classics and hasn't been changed much in the past 20 years...

Since they have not upgraded the bracelet, kept the through-hole lugs, and prominently displayed it as-is at the latest Basel Watch Fair in April, I don't really expect them to change it any time soon...

The movement inside is the same base movement that is used in the new ceramic Subs, but with a date feature added...
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Old 15 November 2010, 02:43 PM   #12
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Congratulations on the new Sub..

The 14060M is the last of the classics and hasn't been changed much in the past 20 years...

Since they have not upgraded the bracelet, kept the through-hole lugs, and prominently displayed it as-is at the latest Basel Watch Fair in April, I don't really expect them to change it any time soon...

The movement inside is the same base movement that is used in the new ceramic Subs, but with a date feature added...
Thanks Tools! Hopefully my new Sub will be in tomorrow's mail! Wokafu - I will post pics asap!


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