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langdalematt · 18 March 2009, 06:42 AM

Does anyone know if panerai have or intend to update the 233? I was asked today if the one I bought, (which is a jan 2009 k serial) was with the latest changes. Please can you shed some light for me.

Thanks,

louie · 18 March 2009, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by langdalematt

Does anyone know if panerai have or intend to update the 233? I was asked today if the one I bought, (which is a jan 2009 k serial) was with the latest changes. Please can you shed some light for me.

Thanks,

yesh,the latest L serial 233 "Dot" indicator will be replaced by the AM/PM..(AM/PM indicator seen on the 270s)

argee1977 · 18 March 2009, 07:23 AM

It's not the clearest of pictures, but here is the L series, thanks to Nad off Paneristi for the snapshot

usctrojan99 · 18 March 2009, 07:56 AM

Just because you have a K or earlier, don't assume your 233 more valuable than an L or later.

Though I have owned a 233 I and J, I prefer the am/pm. Just am matter of preference.

Randy · 18 March 2009, 08:08 AM

I prefer the clean lines without the am,pm too cluttered IMO.

langdalematt · 18 March 2009, 08:52 AM

cannot see the am pm, where should i be looking on the photos?

Thanks

Ranfni · 18 March 2009, 08:57 AM

I loved the strap from the 233 so much that I bought it and put it on my 104...I really love it

argee1977 · 18 March 2009, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by langdalematt

cannot see the am pm, where should i be looking on the photos?

Thanks

Sub-Dial, across the horizontal markers, and the additional hand on the sub-dial.

As for my preference, well i chose the 233 over the 270 due to the AM/PM indicator, a bit too overly complicated for what it does and it does clutter up the sub-dial, taking away some of the Panerai basics.

hflee55 · 18 March 2009, 11:28 AM

i prefer it without the am/pm indicator. hopefully, by the time i save enough $$$, it'll still be the am/pm free dial.

WatchTimes · 18 March 2009, 01:02 PM

I went back and forth on this.
I at first wanted the 270, got to handle them in the wild.
I went with the 233 and I am glad!
I am glad I got one before the changes, I just think it looks
cleaner.

WatchTimes · 18 March 2009, 01:03 PM

I went back and forth on this.
I at first wanted the 270, got to handle them in the wild.
I went with the 233 and I am glad!
I am glad I got one before the changes, I just think it looks
cleaner.

TswaneNguni · 18 March 2009, 01:45 PM

I like the luminous dot

Cleaner look and more interesting.

Trurolexer · 18 March 2009, 08:06 PM

I think I don't really care about AM/PM indicator. Whatever I get in the end, as long as 233, nothing matter to me.

100thmonkey · 25 April 2009, 05:37 AM

With only 4500 'Dot' 233's ever made they will become very sought after in the future when everyone and anyone can buy a am/pm dial version!

'233 Dot' is going to be a rocket

GBJIV · 25 April 2009, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Ranfni

I loved the strap from the 233 so much that I bought it and put it on my 104...I really love it

Your right. The Strap on the 233 is very nice. Good idea - buying a second one. I was saving mine - It would be nice to wear one...

Quote:

Originally Posted by langdalematt

cannot see the am pm, where should i be looking on the photos?

Thanks

Me Too - mine is brand new K - I think It's AM/PM can you guys tell me? I really like the 233.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 100thmonkey

With only 4500 'Dot' 233's ever made they will become very sought after in the future when everyone and anyone can buy a am/pm dial version!

'233 Dot' is going to be a rocket

Isn't 4500 PAM's is a lot of PAMs in a series? - ... Maybe I a wrong - I know it's not Rolex but, PAM community is a lot smaller...

100thmonkey · 25 April 2009, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBJIV

Isn't 4500 PAM's is a lot of PAMs in a series? - ... Maybe I a wrong - I know it's not Rolex but, PAM community is a lot smaller...

Yeah slightly over double the 127!! But still small enough for such a perfect and fuctional watch to do well.

In time all in good time, the 233 is highly sought after and perfect in design, changing it to the am/pm (which attracts a little critisism) will make 'the dot' the one!

argee1977 · 25 April 2009, 07:20 AM

Ok, i've blown up the picture a little from that picture, i have also circled the sub-dial as this is the area that's changed.

GBJIV · 25 April 2009, 03:48 PM

oh, I see. I have am/pm.... no big collector model I guess. I am okay with it. I think the 233 is the watch I love the most...

Interesting though - I learned recently that my paint 177 is kind of rare. Didn't know tht until the other day.

argee1977 · 25 April 2009, 04:53 PM

I thought you had the 'dot', the photos you posted were of a dot 233, i don't think the AM/PM 233 is out yet, it'll be available later in the year.

And any news on when it's coming back, are the withdrawl symptoms kicking in yet

louie · 25 April 2009, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 100thmonkey

With only 4500 'Dot' 233's ever made they will become very sought after in the future when everyone and anyone can buy a am/pm dial version!

'233 Dot' is going to be a rocket

this is one the of the reasons i have to hurry to get myself one before i have to pay "appreciation fees" for it later...

i would prefer calling the "dotted" am/pm the "Sun"...when it rises i'm slacking like a koala bear at work...

when the "Sun" goes down,yeeeha i'm off like a jumping kangaroo!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBJIV

Your right. The Strap on the 233 is very nice. Good idea - buying a second one. I was saving mine - It would be nice to wear one...

Me Too - mine is brand new K - I think It's AM/PM can you guys tell me? I really like the 233.

Isn't 4500 PAM's is a lot of PAMs in a series? - ... Maybe I a wrong - I know it's not Rolex but, PAM community is a lot smaller...

4500 do sound alot,but strangely i never seen a single one at my local ADs...by the time my AD call me to inform me he got hold of one i told him man she's already sitting on my wrist

i think demand is very high,i remember my AD told me even now Panerai is still producing the Ks....

Quote:

Originally Posted by 100thmonkey

Yeah slightly over double the 127!! But still small enough for such a perfect and fuctional watch to do well.

In time all in good time, the 233 is highly sought after and perfect in design, changing it to the am/pm (which attracts a little critisism) will make 'the dot' the one!

The One,the Sun!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBJIV

oh, I see. I have am/pm.... no big collector model I guess. I am okay with it. I think the 233 is the watch I love the most...

Interesting though - I learned recently that my paint 177 is kind of rare. Didn't know tht until the other day.

Jack!! you just got yourself a GOLDEN ticket

and not knowing,it's an ERROR dial!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by argee1977

I thought you had the 'dot', the photos you posted were of a dot 233, i don't think the AM/PM 233 is out yet, it'll be available later in the year.

And any news on when it's coming back, are the withdrawl symptoms kicking in yet

Jack you studied too hard on the 2009 catalog and now its making you thinking you have the AM/PM 233...

VazLube · 25 April 2009, 09:31 PM

I was told somewhere that change from dot to am/pm is done midway thru K series already not from L series onwards.

If someone saw am/pm and K series then I would be interested to know what series # it is...

am/pm? ugh! dot? yes.

argee1977 · 25 April 2009, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VazLube

I was told somewhere that change from dot to am/pm is done midway thru K series already not from L series onwards.

If someone saw am/pm and K series then I would be interested to know what series # it is...

am/pm? ugh! dot? yes.

From what i know it was released at SIHH in January this year, there have been no sightings of it in the ADs or Boutiques for sale, so i would say it's definitely not in the K series, unless Panerai have been delayed in getting all the numbers out and they're still producing K series 233s.

I think we'll start seeing the new 233 sometime this year, but a bit later as Panerai have been focusing on releasing the new models like the 312, 320, etc. Since the 233 is a current model and there is still stock they will do the L production run after the new models.

brainbizz · 26 April 2009, 12:08 PM

The beauty of the 233/289 is its simplicity and symmetry. I do not like the am/pm indicator and rarely wear my 270.

GBJIV · 26 April 2009, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louie

this is one the of the reasons i have to hurry to get myself one before i have to pay "appreciation fees" for it later...

i would prefer calling the "dotted" am/pm the "Sun"...when it rises i'm slacking like a koala bear at work...

when the "Sun" goes down,yeeeha i'm off like a jumping kangaroo!!

4500 do sound alot,but strangely i never seen a single one at my local ADs...by the time my AD call me to inform me he got hold of one i told him man she's already sitting on my wrist

i think demand is very high,i remember my AD told me even now Panerai is still producing the Ks....

The One,the Sun!!

Jack!! you just got yourself a GOLDEN ticket

and not knowing,it's an ERROR dial!!

Jack you studied too hard on the 2009 catalog and now its making you thinking you have the AM/PM 233...

You guys are hillarious and your right!!!! I have a dot!!! I should have my Paneristi card taken away...

I wasn't catching on - I thought by dot we were talking am/pm - no excuses - I am just lame... But, I do love my 233. Thanks for the help! Boy, I am glad I posted some pics...

BH Boutique has 233 and 270...

GBJIV · 26 April 2009, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBJIV

You guys are hillarious and your right!!!! I have a dot!!! I should have my Paneristi card taken away...

I wasn't catching on - I thought by dot we were talking am/pm - no excuses - I am just lame... But, I do love my 233. Thanks for the help! Boy, I am glad I posted some pics...

BH Boutique has 233 and 270...

I know my 233 was a fresh shipment from PAM. And it is 1458/2000 K

TswaneNguni · 26 April 2009, 02:27 PM

Personally,I am more of a dot person than a morning or evening person

My 289 has a dot.The dot is just so much more quirky and unique.I think it ads to future collectability.The future may prove that wrong or right.

louie · 26 April 2009, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBJIV

You guys are hillarious and your right!!!! I have a dot!!! I should have my Paneristi card taken away...

I wasn't catching on - I thought by dot we were talking am/pm - no excuses - I am just lame... But, I do love my 233. Thanks for the help! Boy, I am glad I posted some pics...

BH Boutique has 233 and 270...

Jack Once a Paneristi,Always a Paneristi!!

david6 · 30 December 2010, 01:14 PM

I have not visited this site often but glad to see your discussions on the 233. I'm from Hong Kong and opt for the dot. Also glad to learn from your discussion that there are only 4500 of dot 233. I have a PAM 90 and has been looking for a 233 dot for sometime and finally got one. Will sure to have a lot of fun with it. I think the K series should be the last series with the dot and all K's are dot as mine is 19--/2000. But if K has the production of 2000, then the former versions added together only producted 2500? Is there anywhere that I can find the number produced for each series?

Once again, nice to have read all your discussions!

EvEr34 · 30 December 2010, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 100thmonkey

With only 4500 'Dot' 233's ever made they will become very sought after in the future when everyone and anyone can buy a am/pm dial version!

'233 Dot' is going to be a rocket

so what happens if Panerai only produce the am/pm version for one year and decide to go back to the older version.

18 March 2009, 06:42 AM	#1
langdalematt Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mark Location: London Watch: Rolex Deepsea Posts: 81	Panerai 233 Facelift Changes Does anyone know if panerai have or intend to update the 233? I was asked today if the one I bought, (which is a jan 2009 k serial) was with the latest changes. Please can you shed some light for me. Thanks,

18 March 2009, 07:23 AM	#3
argee1977 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Ryan Location: England Watch: AP ROC Posts: 1,462	It's not the clearest of pictures, but here is the L series, thanks to Nad off Paneristi for the snapshot __________________ PANERAI, MORE THAN A WATCH, LESS THAN A KITKAT

18 March 2009, 07:56 AM	#4
usctrojan99 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: LA/OC - CA Watch: Rolex Posts: 233	i might add.. Just because you have a K or earlier, don't assume your 233 more valuable than an L or later. Though I have owned a 233 I and J, I prefer the am/pm. Just am matter of preference.

18 March 2009, 01:02 PM	#10
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,787	I went back and forth on this. I at first wanted the 270, got to handle them in the wild. I went with the 233 and I am glad! I am glad I got one before the changes, I just think it looks cleaner. __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

18 March 2009, 01:03 PM	#11
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,787	I went back and forth on this. I at first wanted the 270, got to handle them in the wild. I went with the 233 and I am glad! I am glad I got one before the changes, I just think it looks cleaner. __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

18 March 2009, 08:08 AM	#5
Randy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Randy Location: Ohio Watch: AP, Rolex, Panerai Posts: 1,241	I prefer the clean lines without the am,pm too cluttered IMO.

18 March 2009, 08:52 AM	#6
langdalematt Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mark Location: London Watch: Rolex Deepsea Posts: 81	cannot see the am pm, where should i be looking on the photos? Thanks

18 March 2009, 08:57 AM	#7
Ranfni "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Rob Location: SoCal Watch: Rolex Panerai AP Posts: 433	I loved the strap from the 233 so much that I bought it and put it on my 104...I really love it

18 March 2009, 11:28 AM	#9
hflee55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Andy Location: Kuala Lumpur, MY Watch: Me Watching You!! Posts: 3,260	i prefer it without the am/pm indicator. hopefully, by the time i save enough $$$, it'll still be the am/pm free dial.

18 March 2009, 01:45 PM	#12
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,609	I like the luminous dot Cleaner look and more interesting.

18 March 2009, 08:06 PM	#13
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	I think I don't really care about AM/PM indicator. Whatever I get in the end, as long as 233, nothing matter to me.

25 April 2009, 05:37 AM	#14
100thmonkey "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: The Major Location: Surrey, UK Watch: All Are Beautiful Posts: 356	With only 4500 'Dot' 233's ever made they will become very sought after in the future when everyone and anyone can buy a am/pm dial version! '233 Dot' is going to be a rocket

25 April 2009, 07:20 AM	#17
argee1977 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Ryan Location: England Watch: AP ROC Posts: 1,462	Ok, i've blown up the picture a little from that picture, i have also circled the sub-dial as this is the area that's changed. __________________ PANERAI, MORE THAN A WATCH, LESS THAN A KITKAT

25 April 2009, 03:48 PM	#18
GBJIV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Jackson Location: So. California Posts: 2,893	oh, I see. I have am/pm.... no big collector model I guess. I am okay with it. I think the 233 is the watch I love the most... Interesting though - I learned recently that my paint 177 is kind of rare. Didn't know tht until the other day. __________________ Jackson

25 April 2009, 04:53 PM	#19
argee1977 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Ryan Location: England Watch: AP ROC Posts: 1,462	I thought you had the 'dot', the photos you posted were of a dot 233, i don't think the AM/PM 233 is out yet, it'll be available later in the year. And any news on when it's coming back, are the withdrawl symptoms kicking in yet __________________ PANERAI, MORE THAN A WATCH, LESS THAN A KITKAT

25 April 2009, 09:31 PM	#21
VazLube Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: South of Equator Posts: 278	I was told somewhere that change from dot to am/pm is done midway thru K series already not from L series onwards. If someone saw am/pm and K series then I would be interested to know what series # it is... am/pm? ugh! dot? yes.

26 April 2009, 12:08 PM	#23
brainbizz Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 608	The beauty of the 233/289 is its simplicity and symmetry. I do not like the am/pm indicator and rarely wear my 270.

26 April 2009, 02:27 PM	#26
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,609	Personally,I am more of a dot person than a morning or evening person My 289 has a dot.The dot is just so much more quirky and unique.I think it ads to future collectability.The future may prove that wrong or right.

30 December 2010, 01:14 PM	#28
david6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Hong Kong Watch: GMT Master II Posts: 6	Just bought my PAM 233 I have not visited this site often but glad to see your discussions on the 233. I'm from Hong Kong and opt for the dot. Also glad to learn from your discussion that there are only 4500 of dot 233. I have a PAM 90 and has been looking for a 233 dot for sometime and finally got one. Will sure to have a lot of fun with it. I think the K series should be the last series with the dot and all K's are dot as mine is 19--/2000. But if K has the production of 2000, then the former versions added together only producted 2500? Is there anywhere that I can find the number produced for each series? Once again, nice to have read all your discussions!

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