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buddy13 · 30 July 2011, 07:25 PM

Ok there is a nice tudor sub for sale locally. I am intrigued

...but I know little about these watches so would need some help/advice...

The watch is the one pictured and comes with all boxes/papers, tags, anchor etc...It comes with 2 original Tudor bracelets and is a one owner watch bought new in 2000. It was serviced once by a reputable local watchmaker

Now onto some questions:

1) What is the correct model no. for the watch please?

2) I really hate the shiny bezel insert. Is it hard to find a replacement black one? What would the cost be?

3)Is this watch somewhat rare/sought after (Easy to move it on if I do not like it..)?

4) What is a fair price to pay for the watch?

I sincerely thank you in advance for any advice

!

Dan Pierce · 30 July 2011, 09:35 PM

1) Did the seller provide a reference number? It should be 79190.

2)You should be able to source a black bezel from an AD. Although the silver insert looks great and it's nice to have options.

3)Rare? Well, not made in huge numbers but I wouldn't say rare.

4)My guess is that $2K to $2.5K US would be the range.

Tell us how it turns out.

Best of luck,
dP

padi56 · 30 July 2011, 09:48 PM

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JoeG · 30 July 2011, 10:15 PM

I agree with Dan and padi56. Good luck!

Dan Pierce · 30 July 2011, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeG

I agree with Dan and padi56. Good luck!

Joe, beautiful blue Tudor Sub you have there in the WRUW thread today.

dP

dricig · 30 July 2011, 10:26 PM

Great watch and a full kit also!
If the price is in the ballpark that Dan mentions above, it's a win/win all the way.
The prices on the Tudors are always going up.

good luck

Dave

buddy13 · 30 July 2011, 10:54 PM

Thanks for your replies!

The owner wants approx. 2600 USD. I will try to haggle down a bit. It comes with both jubilee and oyster. I believe the oyster is the correct one for the model right....? I might see it in person today or tomorrow...

Some last questions...

- It should have matte dial correct?
- It should have no lume (I think tritium has since lost it's a 2000 model) right?
- Does it have the exact same case as a 16610 (i had one of those so know what to look for) or is it somewhat different?
- Triplock crown?
- Engraved caseback?
- Any markings between lugs?

Thanks

!

Dan Pierce · 30 July 2011, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddy13

Thanks for your replies!

The owner wants approx. 2600 USD. I will try to haggle down a bit. It comes with both jubilee and oyster. I believe the oyster is the correct one for the model right....? I might see it in person today or tomorrow...

Some last questions...

- It should have matte dial correct?
- It should have no lume (I think tritium has since lost it's a 2000 model) right?
- Does it have the exact same case as a 16610 (i had one of those so know what to look for) or is it somewhat different?
- Triplock crown?
- Engraved caseback?
- Any markings between lugs?

Thanks

!

-Dial, not sure if matte or gloss.
-Not sure about lume either, sorry.
-The case might be slightly different in dimensions but overall shape the same as 16610.
-Tudor triplock crown.
-Tudor engraved case back.
-Yes, reference # and serial #.
dP

dddrees · 30 July 2011, 11:32 PM

It looks great. I hope you can work out a satisfactory deal for both you and the seller.

glimmer · 30 July 2011, 11:49 PM

That's a really nice looking Tudor! Good luck!

buddy13 · 30 July 2011, 11:52 PM

Thanks mates...

You are a master of Tudors Dan

..appreciate my friend

!

joeychitwood · 31 July 2011, 12:14 AM

Regarding the bezel insert, the black should be fairly easy to find. However, I've looked in the past for a blue replacement bezel insert without much success. In any case, should you not like the watch, it should be easy to sell here on TRF.

isampark · 31 July 2011, 02:43 AM

Looks like a very well cared Tudor Sub, looking forward to see your wrist shot!

charlesvdw · 31 July 2011, 03:42 AM

Knowing your love of bigger watches, you may find it rather small.
Since it is in good condition and with B&P, 2000 € would be a bargain.

joeychitwood · 31 July 2011, 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddy13

Thanks for your replies! The owner wants approx. 2600 USD. I will try to haggle down a bit. It comes with both jubilee and oyster.

The extra bracelet adds some value to the package. I think the asking price is probably pretty good considering the excellent condition of the watch and the two bracelets. It rarely hurts to haggle a bit on the price, but I wouldn't risk losing the deal if the seller doesn't want to budge.

JoeG · 31 July 2011, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

Joe, beautiful blue Tudor Sub you have there in the WRUW thread today.

dP

Thank you Dan! Appreciate the kind words! I always look forward to your photos (on WRUW or other posts). Currently on my mind is your awesome Pepsi GMT on jubilee, partly due to the 'I blame Dan Pierce' post!

buddy13 · 1 August 2011, 05:44 AM

I have seen the watch! It is definitely a beauty and the case still has very nice edges and brushing that to me looks Rolex finish (not polished)...however there are 2 things which I am not sure of...

1- The bracelet has a divers extension ala 14060M AND folded links on the outside too....is this correct for the watch?

2- The crown is not a triplock

. It is a ROLEX twinlock crown (with the single line underneath the coronet). This is not correct right?

3 - The dial has chrome surrounds on the hour plots. I have not seen this for 79190. Is this correct?

Apart from that the watch comes 100% complete with everything. Thanks for advice!

Dan Pierce · 1 August 2011, 07:38 AM

1- That bracelet is correct.
2- Should be a Tudor triplock.
3- The dial surrounds are correct.
dP

buddy13 · 1 August 2011, 07:57 AM

Thanks Dan! Would a correct Tudor triplock crown be too difficult to source? Would it fit the thread on the watch (i.e. can I only change the crown) or does the stem in the case need to be replaced too?

Should I just walk away

? Thanks!

Dan Pierce · 1 August 2011, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddy13

Thanks Dan! Would a correct Tudor triplock crown be too difficult to source? Would it fit the thread on the watch (i.e. can I only change the crown) or does the stem in the case need to be replaced too?

Should I just walk away

? Thanks!

I'd ask the seller if he knows why the crown is a Rolex twin lock vs a Tudor triplock first. I think the diameters of the twin vs trip are different and the crown tube might have to be changed also, but not a big deal for any watchmaker.
The service history, if known, might reveal all.
Good luck,
dP

30 July 2011, 07:25 PM	#1
buddy13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Etienne Location: Malta Watch: Orient star 300m Posts: 724	Need advice for potential Tudor sub purchase... Ok there is a nice tudor sub for sale locally. I am intrigued ...but I know little about these watches so would need some help/advice... The watch is the one pictured and comes with all boxes/papers, tags, anchor etc...It comes with 2 original Tudor bracelets and is a one owner watch bought new in 2000. It was serviced once by a reputable local watchmaker Now onto some questions: 1) What is the correct model no. for the watch please? 2) I really hate the shiny bezel insert. Is it hard to find a replacement black one? What would the cost be? 3)Is this watch somewhat rare/sought after (Easy to move it on if I do not like it..)? 4) What is a fair price to pay for the watch? I sincerely thank you in advance for any advice !

30 July 2011, 09:35 PM	#2
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 36,215	1) Did the seller provide a reference number? It should be 79190. 2)You should be able to source a black bezel from an AD. Although the silver insert looks great and it's nice to have options. 3)Rare? Well, not made in huge numbers but I wouldn't say rare. 4)My guess is that $2K to $2.5K US would be the range. Tell us how it turns out. Best of luck, dP __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

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30 July 2011, 11:32 PM	#9
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	It looks great. I hope you can work out a satisfactory deal for both you and the seller. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

30 July 2011, 10:15 PM	#4
JoeG "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Joe Location: New York Posts: 191	I agree with Dan and padi56. Good luck!

30 July 2011, 10:26 PM	#6
dricig "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Dave Location: NY Metro Posts: 680	Great watch and a full kit also! If the price is in the ballpark that Dan mentions above, it's a win/win all the way. The prices on the Tudors are always going up. good luck Dave

30 July 2011, 10:54 PM	#7
buddy13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Etienne Location: Malta Watch: Orient star 300m Posts: 724	Thanks for your replies! The owner wants approx. 2600 USD. I will try to haggle down a bit. It comes with both jubilee and oyster. I believe the oyster is the correct one for the model right....? I might see it in person today or tomorrow... Some last questions... - It should have matte dial correct? - It should have no lume (I think tritium has since lost it's a 2000 model) right? - Does it have the exact same case as a 16610 (i had one of those so know what to look for) or is it somewhat different? - Triplock crown? - Engraved caseback? - Any markings between lugs? Thanks !

30 July 2011, 11:49 PM	#10
glimmer Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Here, everywhere Posts: 1,244	That's a really nice looking Tudor! Good luck!

30 July 2011, 11:52 PM	#11
buddy13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Etienne Location: Malta Watch: Orient star 300m Posts: 724	Thanks mates... You are a master of Tudors Dan ..appreciate my friend !

31 July 2011, 12:14 AM	#12
joeychitwood "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Way Up North USA Watch: Rolexes & Tudors Posts: 6,361	Regarding the bezel insert, the black should be fairly easy to find. However, I've looked in the past for a blue replacement bezel insert without much success. In any case, should you not like the watch, it should be easy to sell here on TRF.

31 July 2011, 02:43 AM	#13
isampark Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Sam Location: Toronto, ON Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 134	Looks like a very well cared Tudor Sub, looking forward to see your wrist shot!

31 July 2011, 03:42 AM	#14
charlesvdw Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Flanders Posts: 67	Knowing your love of bigger watches, you may find it rather small. Since it is in good condition and with B&P, 2000 € would be a bargain.

1 August 2011, 05:44 AM	#17
buddy13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Etienne Location: Malta Watch: Orient star 300m Posts: 724	I have seen the watch! It is definitely a beauty and the case still has very nice edges and brushing that to me looks Rolex finish (not polished)...however there are 2 things which I am not sure of... 1- The bracelet has a divers extension ala 14060M AND folded links on the outside too....is this correct for the watch? 2- The crown is not a triplock . It is a ROLEX twinlock crown (with the single line underneath the coronet). This is not correct right? 3 - The dial has chrome surrounds on the hour plots. I have not seen this for 79190. Is this correct? Apart from that the watch comes 100% complete with everything. Thanks for advice!

1 August 2011, 07:38 AM	#18
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 36,215	1- That bracelet is correct. 2- Should be a Tudor triplock. 3- The dial surrounds are correct. dP

1 August 2011, 07:57 AM	#19
buddy13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Etienne Location: Malta Watch: Orient star 300m Posts: 724	Thanks Dan! Would a correct Tudor triplock crown be too difficult to source? Would it fit the thread on the watch (i.e. can I only change the crown) or does the stem in the case need to be replaced too? Should I just walk away ? Thanks!

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