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masterdinh · 21 August 2011, 11:30 PM

Stupid questions but I am seriously considering a dssd with the intent to use a NATO strap.

1) Where do you buy them?
2) How hard is it to install?
3) What tools do you need and where do you buy the tools?

dddrees · 21 August 2011, 11:36 PM

I have bought a few from www.gnomonwatches.com and there are a number of other places as well.

Once you have the bracelet off it's a piece of cake putting them on and taking Nato straps off. In fact that is one of the great things of using Nato Straps. It's real easy to change them and get a number of different looks real easy because they don't cost very much either.

I personally have not needed a tool because the only watch I have used a Nato strap on so far has lug holes. You however will need to use something as a DSSD will not have lug holes. I will let others advise you on this.

RC2 · 21 August 2011, 11:50 PM

If u have lug holes just pop the bracelet off and put the spring bars on and slide the nato on. Pretty easy.

gmtm2 · 21 August 2011, 11:53 PM

it's a good alternative to oyster bracelet.

Nalk7 · 22 August 2011, 12:10 AM

As others have stated above it's super simple to install, as for a tool I would highly recommend the bergeon 6767-F If I remember correctly I bought mine from here http://www.jewelerssupplies.com/product1122.html

Danand · 22 August 2011, 12:14 AM

I have read conflicting reports on whether or not NATOs are truly safer on watches with spring bars-any thoughts ?

Nalk7 · 22 August 2011, 12:24 AM

Well the argument is that watches without lug holes have a higher chance of having the springbar pop out because of the design of the springbar itself. now from personal experience, I've been wearing my watches on NATO style straps for over three years and putting them though anything you can imagine and I've never had a problem. The spring bar issue is supposed to affect any type of strap, be that leather or whatever, but at least the NATO will "save" your watch by still holding on to the other springbar. The only way you can really lose your watch would be if the two springbars fail at the same time, and I don't really see that being possible

globalmedia33 · 22 August 2011, 12:26 AM

I love it.

Danand · 22 August 2011, 12:29 AM

Anoher stupid question-do they come in different sizes for large and small wrists?

dddrees · 22 August 2011, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nalk7

well the argument is that watches without lug holes have a higher chance of having the springbar pop out because of the design of the springbar itself. Now from personal experience, i've been wearing my watches on nato style straps for over three years and putting them though anything you can imagine and i've never had a problem. The spring bar issue is supposed to affect any type of strap, be that leather or whatever, but at least the nato will "save" your watch by still holding on to the other springbar. The only way you can really lose your watch would be if the two springbars fail at the same time, and i don't really see that being possible

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dddrees · 22 August 2011, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danand

Anoher stupid question-do they come in different sizes for large and small wrists?

I haven't seen any place yet that sells them in different sizes. Besides you can place them on any hole whether you have a small or large wrist. Your wrist would have to be quite large not to have enough strap, if small you tuck the extra strap anyway.

(DMB) · 22 August 2011, 02:31 AM

If it is just too long or if you don't want the "tail" that requires tucking in the keepers, you can clamp it between two quarters and trim off the excess with a razor knife. The quarters will give you the symmetrical "curve" on the end. Then, use a heat gun or soldering iron to melt the edge (while still clamped between the quarters). I doubt you'd need to do this unless you have really small wrists.

Bruno C · 22 August 2011, 03:18 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCQQFsTMjpU

Dr. Robert · 22 August 2011, 03:33 AM

Doesn't the DSSD have a 21mm lug width??????
The NATO & ZULU type straps come in even widths....20 & 22mm.

dddrees · 22 August 2011, 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Robert

Doesn't the DSSD have a 21mm lug width??????
The NATO & ZULU type straps come in even widths....20 & 22mm.

Looks like you right, good catch Dr Bob. I completely missed that. I guess he would have to wear 20mm which may not look all that good. I do believe there are a few on the forum who have put there DSSD on Natos though.

SALTY · 22 August 2011, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nalk7

The spring bar issue is supposed to affect any type of strap, be that leather or whatever, but at least the NATO will "save" your watch by still holding on to the other springbar. The only way you can really lose your watch would be if the two springbars fail at the same time, and I don't really see that being possible

Exactly!

drockadam · 22 August 2011, 04:15 AM

NATO's a really cool looking! I've ordered one for my Invicta, a bond strap. Should look like this, once recieved.

cbusjer · 22 August 2011, 04:17 AM

Natos are definitely a fun and different look...

Dr. Robert · 22 August 2011, 04:54 AM

A 20mm NATO/ZULU would be o.k., a 1/2 mm gap, on either side....better than taking a chance on a 22mm one, maybe bunching up, maybe not so got for spring bar stress?

21 August 2011, 11:30 PM	#1
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21 August 2011, 11:36 PM	#2
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	I have bought a few from www.gnomonwatches.com and there are a number of other places as well. Once you have the bracelet off it's a piece of cake putting them on and taking Nato straps off. In fact that is one of the great things of using Nato Straps. It's real easy to change them and get a number of different looks real easy because they don't cost very much either. I personally have not needed a tool because the only watch I have used a Nato strap on so far has lug holes. You however will need to use something as a DSSD will not have lug holes. I will let others advise you on this. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

21 August 2011, 11:50 PM	#3
RC2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Rich Location: NC Watch: Rolex 1675 Posts: 2,359	If u have lug holes just pop the bracelet off and put the spring bars on and slide the nato on. Pretty easy. __________________ Rich Member of Nylon Nation Red Sox Nation Instagram watchguy97

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22 August 2011, 12:26 AM	#8
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22 August 2011, 12:10 AM	#5
Nalk7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Miguel Location: East Lansing MI Watch: 114270,5508,124060 Posts: 562	As others have stated above it's super simple to install, as for a tool I would highly recommend the bergeon 6767-F If I remember correctly I bought mine from here http://www.jewelerssupplies.com/product1122.html

22 August 2011, 12:14 AM	#6
Danand "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Jonathan Location: Ottawa Watch: 116610LN Posts: 1,246	I have read conflicting reports on whether or not NATOs are truly safer on watches with spring bars-any thoughts ?

22 August 2011, 12:24 AM	#7
Nalk7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Miguel Location: East Lansing MI Watch: 114270,5508,124060 Posts: 562	Well the argument is that watches without lug holes have a higher chance of having the springbar pop out because of the design of the springbar itself. now from personal experience, I've been wearing my watches on NATO style straps for over three years and putting them though anything you can imagine and I've never had a problem. The spring bar issue is supposed to affect any type of strap, be that leather or whatever, but at least the NATO will "save" your watch by still holding on to the other springbar. The only way you can really lose your watch would be if the two springbars fail at the same time, and I don't really see that being possible

22 August 2011, 12:29 AM	#9
Danand "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Jonathan Location: Ottawa Watch: 116610LN Posts: 1,246	Anoher stupid question-do they come in different sizes for large and small wrists?

22 August 2011, 02:31 AM	#12
(DMB) "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Cajun Country Posts: 211	If it is just too long or if you don't want the "tail" that requires tucking in the keepers, you can clamp it between two quarters and trim off the excess with a razor knife. The quarters will give you the symmetrical "curve" on the end. Then, use a heat gun or soldering iron to melt the edge (while still clamped between the quarters). I doubt you'd need to do this unless you have really small wrists.

22 August 2011, 03:18 AM	#13
Bruno C "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Bruno Location: Argentina Watch: Submariner 14060M Posts: 449	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCQQFsTMjpU

22 August 2011, 03:33 AM	#14
Dr. Robert 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 64,288	Doesn't the DSSD have a 21mm lug width?????? The NATO & ZULU type straps come in even widths....20 & 22mm. __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

22 August 2011, 04:15 AM	#17
drockadam "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: Pepsi. Posts: 5,749	NATO's a really cool looking! I've ordered one for my Invicta, a bond strap. Should look like this, once recieved. __________________ - Adam Instagram: @GMTSUBTIME

22 August 2011, 04:17 AM	#18
cbusjer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: JT Location: Columbus, Ohio Watch: Rolex 16220 DJ Posts: 208	Natos are definitely a fun and different look... __________________ --Jer ____________________________________________ Rolex: 116710, 16220 Tudor: 7909 Panerai: 005G, 063C Omega: Aqua Terra, Constellation Pie Pan

22 August 2011, 04:54 AM	#19
Dr. Robert 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 64,288	A 20mm NATO/ZULU would be o.k., a 1/2 mm gap, on either side....better than taking a chance on a 22mm one, maybe bunching up, maybe not so got for spring bar stress? __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

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