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eah990 · 21 August 2011, 12:56 AM

So I have decided its time to buy my sub. I have been going back and forth and have finally landed on buying a 16610 since having the date is a plus for me. The only question I have is can you still find a New In Box 16610? I really want to buy a new sub. Do you think I should wait until I find a 16610 with stickers, or is this impossible and I should go for for a new 14060m?.

Maxseven · 21 August 2011, 01:02 AM

The 16610 has more utility (date and magnifier), so that is what I would choose. You can always get a no-date later, or even better, the 16600 Sea-Dweller. I don't care about stickers as long as the watch is in good condition.

mrbill2mrbill2 · 21 August 2011, 01:06 AM

Find a BNIB 16610 is getting tough. There are some near mint ones out there.

Good luck.

dddrees · 21 August 2011, 01:11 AM

Maybe tough to find a new one, but I know if it were my first Rolex I would want the Cyclops.

However which ever one you chose you can't go wrong. Good luck.

Have you contacted any ADs in your area?

You might want to try a seller here and see what they can do to assist you?

Dan2010 · 21 August 2011, 01:53 AM

Submariner (not Sub Date)

sea-dweller · 21 August 2011, 01:57 AM

Get a 16610. My first was a 14060, but ended up getting a 16610 later. Now, I have both.

AJMarcus · 21 August 2011, 02:00 AM

Go 16610 with the sub date.

cdweller · 21 August 2011, 02:47 AM

Sub date for sure!! That date function is handy!

warrior · 21 August 2011, 02:53 AM

The date is helpful, for sure.

But, seriously, at this level of watch, having the date is the absolute least important factor for me. It's ALL about looks ( i.e. symmetry), heritage, and originality. The Sub NO DATE wins for me on all those counts. I think it's a cooler watch....

warren G. · 21 August 2011, 02:54 AM

I would get the Sub date. My first nice watch was an Omega Speedmaster. I thought I could live without a date. But I was wrong, so I end up getting a SD. But right now I'm missing my Speedy. So there is a chance you might end up with both....

padi56 · 21 August 2011, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by eah990

So I have decided its time to buy my sub. I have been going back and forth and have finally landed on buying a 16610 since having the date is a plus for me. The only question I have is can you still find a New In Box 16610? I really want to buy a new sub. Do you think I should wait until I find a 16610 with stickers, or is this impossible and I should go for for a new 14060m?.

Well why not buy a used 16610 as the model has not changed a lot since 1988 its basically the same movement used today in the 116610.Plenty of excellent used ones around just buy from a reliable sourse.And no matter what the age of any 16610 if serviced it will last for decades and beyond.

Gharddog03 · 21 August 2011, 03:28 AM

16610 all the way!

gmtm2 · 21 August 2011, 06:05 AM

no doubt my friend! the only real submariner is the no data 14060m.

TSW · 21 August 2011, 06:19 AM

Can't really go wrong with either one!

Johny · 21 August 2011, 06:25 AM

hi there have a look at the 16610 lv. it has some interesting features as well as a date.

ibramr · 22 August 2011, 09:02 AM

Not limited to exactly the two models in mind, I guess that you are in your way to acquire both in good time. In such case, I would recommend 14060 to be followed by 16710. The combination of the submariner no date, and the GMT (black or pepsi) is indeed superb. Which one first?.....your call. Enjoy in good health.

springbar · 22 August 2011, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by eah990

So I have decided its time to buy my sub. I have been going back and forth and have finally landed on buying a 16610 since having the date is a plus for me. The only question I have is can you still find a New In Box 16610? I really want to buy a new sub. Do you think I should wait until I find a 16610 with stickers, or is this impossible and I should go for for a new 14060m?.

You want the 16610 and you want a new one, so my advice is to get what you want. Put out the word, start looking around. I bet you can still find one.

holmes · 22 August 2011, 09:19 AM

Having had Subs with dates I found the date to be a "no big item for me". What I did find is a nearly nearly new 14060M COSC non-date. This was a short run production model, less than a year. It was so like new it still had all the protective plastic that only Rolex can put on at the factory. The warranty card identified the AD and the purchaser in LA.

Power Play · 23 August 2011, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by warrior

The date is helpful, for sure.

But, seriously, at this level of watch, having the date is the absolute least important factor for me. It's ALL about looks ( i.e. symmetry), heritage, and originality. The Sub NO DATE wins for me on all those counts. I think it's a cooler watch....

Having worn many modern subs I completely agree with the HUGE COOL FACTOR of the No-Date, especially the non-COSC model. IMHO this is the coolest, cleanest, most classic sub of all time. And a great place to start your sub collection.

BTW, you might also consider the wonderful Sea Dweller; date but no cyclops; really cool if you like a bit more heft to your watch....

Zed Homme · 23 August 2011, 01:39 AM

If it is a watch youre planning wear, dont get too caught up in the whole stickered and mint thing. Two weeks of wear that it will be a used watch like any other good 16610 on the market. You could save a lot by doing so.

Personally, the date is a non-dealbreaker for me so my heart is with the 14060m...

Chipmunk · 23 August 2011, 01:44 AM

Get the Sub Date.....that's what you want. I believe you can still find a BNIB. Good luck.

calibre1 · 23 August 2011, 01:47 AM

Sub date as it has the date function which comes in handy at work.

Either way you can't go wrong.... Like one of the forum members noted in another thread, Subs are like "honey beavers" in the watch world.

21 August 2011, 12:56 AM	#1
eah990 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: Baltimore Watch: 116610LN Posts: 114	First Rolex 14060m or 16610 So I have decided its time to buy my sub. I have been going back and forth and have finally landed on buying a 16610 since having the date is a plus for me. The only question I have is can you still find a New In Box 16610? I really want to buy a new sub. Do you think I should wait until I find a 16610 with stickers, or is this impossible and I should go for for a new 14060m?.

21 August 2011, 01:02 AM	#2
Maxseven "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: Bloomfield, MI Watch: Submariner Posts: 467	The 16610 has more utility (date and magnifier), so that is what I would choose. You can always get a no-date later, or even better, the 16600 Sea-Dweller. I don't care about stickers as long as the watch is in good condition. __________________ Hooper: Watch it! Damn it, Martin! This is compressed air! Martin: Well what the hell kind of a knot was that! Hooper: You pulled the wrong one! You screw around with these tanks and they're going to blow up!

21 August 2011, 01:06 AM	#3
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	Find a BNIB 16610 is getting tough. There are some near mint ones out there. Good luck. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

21 August 2011, 01:11 AM	#4
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	Maybe tough to find a new one, but I know if it were my first Rolex I would want the Cyclops. However which ever one you chose you can't go wrong. Good luck. Have you contacted any ADs in your area? You might want to try a seller here and see what they can do to assist you? __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

21 August 2011, 02:54 AM	#10
warren G. "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Duy Location: New Orleans, LA Watch: Speedmaster 3861 Posts: 1,925	I would get the Sub date. My first nice watch was an Omega Speedmaster. I thought I could live without a date. But I was wrong, so I end up getting a SD. But right now I'm missing my Speedy. So there is a chance you might end up with both.... __________________ De gustibus non est disputandum.

21 August 2011, 01:53 AM	#5
Dan2010 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: South Carolina Watch: Panerai 914 Posts: 6,540	Submariner (not Sub Date)

21 August 2011, 01:57 AM	#6
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	Get a 16610. My first was a 14060, but ended up getting a 16610 later. Now, I have both.

21 August 2011, 02:00 AM	#7
AJMarcus "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: AJ Location: USA Watch: Swiss Posts: 5,238	Go 16610 with the sub date.

21 August 2011, 02:47 AM	#8
cdweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: PA Watch: SubLV, 1665 Rail Posts: 1,054	Sub date for sure!! That date function is handy!

21 August 2011, 02:53 AM	#9
warrior "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: massachusetts Watch: Explorer Posts: 1,692	The date is helpful, for sure. But, seriously, at this level of watch, having the date is the absolute least important factor for me. It's ALL about looks ( i.e. symmetry), heritage, and originality. The Sub NO DATE wins for me on all those counts. I think it's a cooler watch....

21 August 2011, 03:28 AM	#12
Gharddog03 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Genaro Location: Fresno Ca. Watch: R O L E X Posts: 4,466	16610 all the way!

21 August 2011, 06:05 AM	#13
gmtm2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Italy Posts: 1,419	no doubt my friend! the only real submariner is the no data 14060m. __________________ forever rolex

21 August 2011, 06:19 AM	#14
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	Can't really go wrong with either one! __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

21 August 2011, 06:25 AM	#15
Johny "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: john Location: Scotland Watch: sub 16610Lv Posts: 13,523	hi there have a look at the 16610 lv. it has some interesting features as well as a date. __________________ "AFTER DARK" BAR AND NIGHT CLUB GM.

22 August 2011, 09:02 AM	#16
ibramr "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: usa Posts: 173	Not limited to exactly the two models in mind, I guess that you are in your way to acquire both in good time. In such case, I would recommend 14060 to be followed by 16710. The combination of the submariner no date, and the GMT (black or pepsi) is indeed superb. Which one first?.....your call. Enjoy in good health.

22 August 2011, 09:19 AM	#18
holmes Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NM, USA Posts: 34	First Rolex 14060M or 16610 Having had Subs with dates I found the date to be a "no big item for me". What I did find is a nearly nearly new 14060M COSC non-date. This was a short run production model, less than a year. It was so like new it still had all the protective plastic that only Rolex can put on at the factory. The warranty card identified the AD and the purchaser in LA.

23 August 2011, 01:39 AM	#20
Zed Homme "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: usa Watch: Rolex Posts: 6,962	If it is a watch youre planning wear, dont get too caught up in the whole stickered and mint thing. Two weeks of wear that it will be a used watch like any other good 16610 on the market. You could save a lot by doing so. Personally, the date is a non-dealbreaker for me so my heart is with the 14060m...

23 August 2011, 01:44 AM	#21
Chipmunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Alvin Location: So Cal Watch: ROLEXES Posts: 5,390	Get the Sub Date.....that's what you want. I believe you can still find a BNIB. Good luck. __________________ "A thing of beauty is a joy forever"............John Keats

23 August 2011, 01:47 AM	#22
calibre1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Malaysia Watch: ROLEX, OMEGA Posts: 279	Sub date as it has the date function which comes in handy at work. Either way you can't go wrong.... Like one of the forum members noted in another thread, Subs are like "honey beavers" in the watch world. __________________ Rolex Explorer II 16570 Rolex Submariner 16610 Omega Seamaster Professional Titanium 2231.50 Omega Speedmaster Professional 3570.50

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