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JWLSC · 28 August 2011, 08:52 AM

I'm considering trading my Rolex 14060M and Explorer II Polar for a Rolex Submariner 116610LN. I never have liked the Rolex bracelets or claps; they seem so cheap for such a nice watch. I really liked the Omega Seamaster bracelets and clasps, a work of art. I think the new bracelet and clasp on the Sub is worth the upgrade alone. What are your thoughts.

Thanks
John

Speed · 28 August 2011, 08:55 AM

I wouldn't make that trade.

I prefer those two models to the new Sub and would prefer to keep them both if the clasp is all you are after.

nauticajoe · 28 August 2011, 09:00 AM

Just make sure you think it thru. You just might miss it later down the road.

Good luck!

capote · 28 August 2011, 09:03 AM

If the braclet and clasp is more important than the actual watch by all means make the change.

JWLSC · 28 August 2011, 09:06 AM

I like the clean face of the 14060M. But them I like the new bold look of the 116610LN and the best bracelet/clasp Rolex has ever made.

John

ufboy73 · 28 August 2011, 09:07 AM

wish i never sold my old SD....cheap clasp and all!

Speed · 28 August 2011, 09:08 AM

I look at the watch more than the clasp.

I'm funny that way.

z0mghenry · 28 August 2011, 09:11 AM

I do agree I like the newer bracelet/clasp better but not a dealbreaker. If it was me, I would save up and add to the collection (keep both!)

JWLSC · 28 August 2011, 09:13 AM

I like the submariner dont get me wrong and like the classic look of the 14060M. Sounds like everyone seems to think the "newer" sub is not all that. I have heard some good things about the 116610LN. Anyone care to tell me why the 116610 is not that desired.

Thanks
John

Speed · 28 August 2011, 09:17 AM

It's a fine watch. Many, many folks like it...a lot.

Have you tried it on? What do you think? That's all that matters.

dddrees · 28 August 2011, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed

I look at the watch more than the clasp.

I'm funny that way.

X2

Besides I have found the old bracelet more comfortable, and I would rather have 2 watches personally than just one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWLSC

I like the submariner dont get me wrong and like the classic look of the 14060M. Sounds like everyone seems to think the "newer" sub is not all that. I have heard some good things about the 116610LN. Anyone care to tell me why the 116610 is not that desired.

Thanks
John

I think the newer version is great watch. Especially when the ones you have are so great in the first place.

cparks555 · 28 August 2011, 09:46 AM

The new version seems so much more comfortable to me, I could not get e nice fit with the 16610 for some reason. I don't think I would trade two watches for it though. How about keep one and trade the other for a Sub C.

Joey_V · 28 August 2011, 10:09 AM

2 watches for 1... I can see how the trade make sense but maybe the seller should give you a few bucks in return just to somewhat even the trade.

JWLSC · 28 August 2011, 10:24 AM

I think your right, keep them both and get some other straps. I have a few Breitling leather straps that I have just filled on both watches and guess what? They now look so different and feel very different. I know some purist say a Rolex does not belong on an aftermarket leather strap. But I think the looks great. The 14060M is on a Breitling Black leather with white stitching. The Explorer is on a oiled brown strap with white stitching. The straps have generic buckles, lol. Both watches look so at home with the leather straps.

John

watchdaddy1 · 28 August 2011, 10:24 AM

2 for 1?? nah I would'nt!!!- but it's your final decission

dddrees · 28 August 2011, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWLSC

I think your right, keep them both and get some other straps. I have a few Breitling leather straps that I have just filled on both watches and guess what? They now look so different and feel very different. I know some purist say a Rolex does not belong on an aftermarket leather strap. But I think the looks great. The 14060M is on a Breitling Black leather with white stitching. The Explorer is on a oiled brown strap with white stitching. The straps have generic buckles, lol. Both watches look so at home with the leather straps.

John

Good choice.

Rollie2011 · 28 August 2011, 11:28 AM

2>1

Even though the Sub C is an AMAZING piece and has an awesome clasp and bracelet, I would still rather have the two over one

tudorlex · 28 August 2011, 12:53 PM

I would suggest holding onto your 2 classics rather than trading for the newer model.

horseco · 28 August 2011, 01:11 PM

I love the classics, but the new Subc & GMTc make the older models look like ancient artifacts from a bygone era by comparison, I would trade for the new Subc. I tried on a yg GMTc, & it made my yg Daytona feel like a toy. The case, bracelet & bezel are leaps & bounds more modern. IMHO.

DCgator · 28 August 2011, 01:18 PM

Keep one and trade the other.

Jannal · 28 August 2011, 01:27 PM

I would keep the 14060M and sell the Explorer II.

Darlinboy · 28 August 2011, 09:49 PM

As much as I love the SubC, I would keep that combo. It's classic.

padi56 · 28 August 2011, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed

I wouldn't make that trade.

I prefer those two models to the new Sub and would prefer to keep them both if the clasp is all you are after.

Have to agree and hardly a trade up IMHO a trade down two watches for one just because of a so called better clasp.While the old clasp might seem light weight etc but it has a well proven track record on millions upon millions of Rolex watches over 40 plus years.

dysondiver · 28 August 2011, 10:00 PM

why not buy an omega bracelet , get the dremmel out and see what you can do ,, at the end of the day all you will destry id two end links. if thats the case sell the omega bracelet , and then have a think ,
i love the omega clasp its genius through and through , but the half link take it or leave it isnt the best form of adjustment.

TSW · 28 August 2011, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speed

i wouldn't make that trade.

I prefer those two models to the new sub and would prefer to keep them both if the clasp is all you are after.

x2

JWLSC · 29 August 2011, 07:32 AM

Here are the watches on leather

Thanks
john

subtona · 29 August 2011, 08:08 AM

the old bracelets may not seem like a lot of design and refinement are involved, however i have successfully had the old style bracelet hold my 16613 to my wrist for just about every minute of 20 years.

the old bracelet is sturdy and reliable.

i personally do not get that feeling from the newer style bracelets, for these reasons...
1) i can not see that little spring in the clasp holding up.
2) the welded part of the clasp fails catastrophically more times than i am comfortable with.

if anyone can contradict the reliability of the older style bracelet, let them come forward here?

PS the sub on the leather above looks great

Jason71 · 29 August 2011, 09:59 AM

Give me until tomorrow to go and get a SubC and I will make that trade with you. I will DEFINITELY be getting the better end of that deal........2 watches for one.

I wouldn't even consider that trade if I were you.

28 August 2011, 08:52 AM	#1
JWLSC Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Gaffney,SC Posts: 46	Trade Up I'm considering trading my Rolex 14060M and Explorer II Polar for a Rolex Submariner 116610LN. I never have liked the Rolex bracelets or claps; they seem so cheap for such a nice watch. I really liked the Omega Seamaster bracelets and clasps, a work of art. I think the new bracelet and clasp on the Sub is worth the upgrade alone. What are your thoughts. Thanks John

28 August 2011, 10:09 AM	#13
Joey_V "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Joey Location: Dallas, TX Watch: SS Sub 16610 M Posts: 3,824	2 watches for 1... I can see how the trade make sense but maybe the seller should give you a few bucks in return just to somewhat even the trade. __________________ Current Rotation: Rolex Submariner Date (M) - 1/08, Rolex Milgauss GV (V) - 2/10, Rolex SS Black Daytona (V) - 6/10, Rolex GMTIIC (G) - 5/11, TAG Heuer Silverstone (286/1860) - 1/2015 Former-watches: Omega PO/2535.80/2254, TAG Carrera/F1x2/Monaco, Panerai 312K/292L Wish List: Panerai 270/505, Rolex SMURF, Rolex RG Daytona, Rolex DSSD

28 August 2011, 01:27 PM	#21
Jannal "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 685	I would keep the 14060M and sell the Explorer II. Attached Images __________________ Bell & Ross: BRS-98S Casio: G-Shock GW-5000U / GW-5000-1JF / DW-5035D 35th / DW-5030C 30th / DW-5000SP 20th / DW-5600C-9CV / Marlin W-450 Panerai: Luminor 000i Seiko: SBGX117 / SBGX335

28 August 2011, 09:49 PM	#22
Darlinboy 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: DB Location: :noitacoL Watch: :hctaW Posts: 6,703	As much as I love the SubC, I would keep that combo. It's classic. __________________ Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.

29 August 2011, 07:32 AM	#26
JWLSC Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Gaffney,SC Posts: 46	Here are the watches on leather Thanks john Attached Images

28 August 2011, 08:55 AM	#2
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	I wouldn't make that trade. I prefer those two models to the new Sub and would prefer to keep them both if the clasp is all you are after.

28 August 2011, 09:00 AM	#3
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	Just make sure you think it thru. You just might miss it later down the road. Good luck!

28 August 2011, 09:03 AM	#4
capote "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: Sweden Watch: 16570 Posts: 7,315	If the braclet and clasp is more important than the actual watch by all means make the change.

28 August 2011, 09:06 AM	#5
JWLSC Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Gaffney,SC Posts: 46	I like the clean face of the 14060M. But them I like the new bold look of the 116610LN and the best bracelet/clasp Rolex has ever made. John

28 August 2011, 09:07 AM	#6
ufboy73 Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: usa Posts: 1,601	wish i never sold my old SD....cheap clasp and all!

28 August 2011, 09:08 AM	#7
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	I look at the watch more than the clasp. I'm funny that way.

28 August 2011, 09:11 AM	#8
z0mghenry "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Henry Location: GA Posts: 617	I do agree I like the newer bracelet/clasp better but not a dealbreaker. If it was me, I would save up and add to the collection (keep both!)

28 August 2011, 09:13 AM	#9
JWLSC Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Gaffney,SC Posts: 46	I like the submariner dont get me wrong and like the classic look of the 14060M. Sounds like everyone seems to think the "newer" sub is not all that. I have heard some good things about the 116610LN. Anyone care to tell me why the 116610 is not that desired. Thanks John

28 August 2011, 09:17 AM	#10
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	It's a fine watch. Many, many folks like it...a lot. Have you tried it on? What do you think? That's all that matters.

28 August 2011, 09:46 AM	#12
cparks555 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: SC Posts: 274	The new version seems so much more comfortable to me, I could not get e nice fit with the 16610 for some reason. I don't think I would trade two watches for it though. How about keep one and trade the other for a Sub C.

28 August 2011, 10:24 AM	#14
JWLSC Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Gaffney,SC Posts: 46	I think your right, keep them both and get some other straps. I have a few Breitling leather straps that I have just filled on both watches and guess what? They now look so different and feel very different. I know some purist say a Rolex does not belong on an aftermarket leather strap. But I think the looks great. The 14060M is on a Breitling Black leather with white stitching. The Explorer is on a oiled brown strap with white stitching. The straps have generic buckles, lol. Both watches look so at home with the leather straps. John

28 August 2011, 10:24 AM	#15
watchdaddy1 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: William Location: Az Watch: strap whore Posts: 1,194	2 for 1?? nah I would'nt!!!- but it's your final decission

28 August 2011, 11:28 AM	#17
Rollie2011 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: John Location: Palm Beach, FL Watch: Sub-C + Exp 42 Posts: 1,654	2>1 Even though the Sub C is an AMAZING piece and has an awesome clasp and bracelet, I would still rather have the two over one

28 August 2011, 12:53 PM	#18
tudorlex "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Down Under Watch: 16570 Posts: 484	I would suggest holding onto your 2 classics rather than trading for the newer model.

28 August 2011, 01:11 PM	#19
horseco "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Anthony Location: North Jersey Watch: Daytona 116528 Posts: 3,426	I love the classics, but the new Subc & GMTc make the older models look like ancient artifacts from a bygone era by comparison, I would trade for the new Subc. I tried on a yg GMTc, & it made my yg Daytona feel like a toy. The case, bracelet & bezel are leaps & bounds more modern. IMHO.

28 August 2011, 01:18 PM	#20
DCgator "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PNW Watch: DS,BLNR,SubLV,DJ2 Posts: 8,123	Keep one and trade the other.

28 August 2011, 10:00 PM	#24
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	why not buy an omega bracelet , get the dremmel out and see what you can do ,, at the end of the day all you will destry id two end links. if thats the case sell the omega bracelet , and then have a think , i love the omega clasp its genius through and through , but the half link take it or leave it isnt the best form of adjustment.

29 August 2011, 08:08 AM	#27
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,599	the old bracelets may not seem like a lot of design and refinement are involved, however i have successfully had the old style bracelet hold my 16613 to my wrist for just about every minute of 20 years. the old bracelet is sturdy and reliable. i personally do not get that feeling from the newer style bracelets, for these reasons... 1) i can not see that little spring in the clasp holding up. 2) the welded part of the clasp fails catastrophically more times than i am comfortable with. if anyone can contradict the reliability of the older style bracelet, let them come forward here? PS the sub on the leather above looks great __________________

29 August 2011, 09:59 AM	#28
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	Give me until tomorrow to go and get a SubC and I will make that trade with you. I will DEFINITELY be getting the better end of that deal........2 watches for one. I wouldn't even consider that trade if I were you. __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

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