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cornerstore · 26 November 2011, 05:19 AM

Why is it Rolex refers to the Submariner without a date complication as " Submariner " and the Submariner with a date complication as the "Submariner Date" but most Rolex owners with the date complication Submariners refer to their watches as " Submariner/Sub" and use the somewhat disparaging term "Submariner NO Date/Sub NO date" for the actual "Submariner"? The Original had no date complication, so what gives, if the terminology is good enough for Rolex why is not good enough for the majority of Submariner Date owners themselves

?

http://www.rolex.com/en#/rolex-watch...l-m14060m-0004

STEELINOX · 26 November 2011, 05:21 AM

I calls it a "Submareener-Date" sans - the silly cycloptic sapphire bubble thingy

stephentross · 26 November 2011, 05:21 AM

I agree. I have wondered this myself from time to time.

moviefreak · 26 November 2011, 05:23 AM

The original is the Submariner... The one with added date is the Submariner Date...
That is all there is to it...

smallcandle · 26 November 2011, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrick09

Why is it Rolex refers to the Submariner without a date complication as " Submariner " and the Submariner with a date complication as the "Submariner Date" but most Rolex owners with the date complication Submariners refer to their watches as " Submariner/Sub" and use the somewhat disparaging term "Submariner NO Date/Sub NO date" for the actual "Submariner"? The Original had no date complication, so what gives, if the terminology is good enough for Rolex why is not good enough for the majority of Submariner Date owners themselves

?

http://www.rolex.com/en#/rolex-watch...l-m14060m-0004

We've been doing this for years in an effort to get a complaint from you. Now that we've succeeded we shall cease...

(DMB) · 26 November 2011, 05:30 AM

I'd rather that that hearing them called "Rollies, Bluesy, The Hulk, Kermit, etc, etc."

cornerstore · 26 November 2011, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (DMB)

I'd rather that that hearing them called "Rollies, Bluesy, The Hulk, Kermit, etc, etc."

As long as they don't call them Sub-standard

cornerstore · 26 November 2011, 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smallcandle

We've been doing this for years in an effort to get a complaint from you. Now that we've succeeded we shall cease...

I know I'm a pretty complacent guy

but it irks me .Submariner Date owners use that Sub No-date as a negative term like the "Submariner" is missing something ,when in fact its just the opposite, the Date complication really is just a gimicky add on. If its good enough for Rolex then it should be good enough for the Daters themselves.Sub Date ..Sub No Date it is even easier to use the proper terminology.This Anarchy must be stopped or what's next Explorer No Date .

Keeperoftime · 26 November 2011, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEELINOX

I calls it a "Submareener-Date"

Yes, according to the Italians.

It is Sub-marine-er

So, as long as we know which is what? No problems from me.

azguy · 26 November 2011, 06:34 AM

I own one and refer to it as a "no-date", I'm going to just start saying "sub"

and for what it's worth, I never miss having a date on that watch, I'm just so happy wearing it, that's enough

dddrees · 26 November 2011, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smallcandle

We've been doing this for years in an effort to get a complaint from you. Now that we've succeeded we shall cease...

Do we have to cease, Do we really have to cease?

But I don't want to stop.

Conanthelib · 26 November 2011, 06:46 AM

I often wondered why a diver would need to know the date.

How much air is left may prove more helpful.

impalass · 26 November 2011, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEELINOX

I calls it a "Submareener-Date" sans - the silly cycloptic sapphire bubble thingy

Yes, I've heard it referred to by that name in the past.

sandybax · 26 November 2011, 06:58 AM

My watch, can call it any name I want!!!

03cobraa · 26 November 2011, 07:01 AM

I say it too, but dont know why! I'll try to do better. I promise!!

cornerstore · 26 November 2011, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azguy

I own one and refer to it as a "no-date", I'm going to just start saying "sub"

and for what it's worth, I never miss having a date on that watch, I'm just so happy wearing it, that's enough

My Submariner is quickly becoming my favorite and admittedly I have referred to it as Sub No date

in the past ..NO more..from now on it's Submariner or Sub.I had a 16610 Submariner Date but much prefer the simplicity of the Original Submariner .

PS: you need an amendment.

"Master II, Sub w/no date, Explore II w/Black Dial, Omega Seamaster Professional Chronograph Diver, Breitling Evolution, Navitimer Heritage, Old Navitiner II TT"

cornerstore · 26 November 2011, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandybax

My watch, can call it any name I want!!!

True just don't call it a Rollie

OrangeSport · 26 November 2011, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrick09

Submariner Date owners use that Sub No-date as a negative term

I have a 14060M, and have never found the term Sub No Date to be negative. I prefer the watch to the version with the date, so I always thought they were pointing out its superiority!

Watch Professor · 26 November 2011, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (dmb)

i'd rather that that hearing them called "rollies, bluesy, the hulk, kermit, etc, etc."

+1

Tools · 26 November 2011, 08:20 AM

Some of us don't..

The Sub is a Sub and has been around since 1953

The Sub-Date is a completely different watch..

Danand · 26 November 2011, 08:27 AM

Majority rules and there are a lot more of us than you. So tough luck! (lol jk!)

Danand · 26 November 2011, 08:30 AM

Seriously I think it really does have to do with the fact there are a lot more date models sold, and they are all a version of submariner. So I will refer to my watch as a sub or submariner for simplicity sake, not to try to force anyone else to call theirs a sub no date.

Rollie2011 · 26 November 2011, 08:31 AM

Art 1 · 26 November 2011, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrick09

Why is it Rolex refers to the Submariner without a date complication as " Submariner " and the Submariner with a date complication as the "Submariner Date" but most Rolex owners with the date complication Submariners refer to their watches as " Submariner/Sub" and use the somewhat disparaging term "Submariner NO Date/Sub NO date" for the actual "Submariner"? The Original had no date complication, so what gives, if the terminology is good enough for Rolex why is not good enough for the majority of Submariner Date owners themselves

?

http://www.rolex.com/en#/rolex-watch...l-m14060m-0004

I have wondered the same and make it a point to refer to them properly, those that don't may not know any better.

MoBe · 26 November 2011, 08:40 AM

I say potato you say tomato,so what.

cornerstore · 26 November 2011, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoBe

I say potato you say tomato,so what.

Except if you call a potato a tomato

esm · 26 November 2011, 08:53 AM

There are just no pleasing people these days....

I try to quite the reference number as much as I can... Can't really get wrong with it right?!?

16610
116610LV
116713LN
116520
116433

No?!?

STEELINOX · 26 November 2011, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esm

There are just no pleasing people these days....

I try to quite the reference number as much as I can... Can't really get wrong with it right?!?

16610
116610LV
116713LN
116520
116433

No?!?

Perfect, Eric !

Art 1 · 26 November 2011, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esm

There are just no pleasing people these days....

I try to quite the reference number as much as I can... Can't really get wrong with it right?!?

16610
116610LV
116713LN
116520
116433

No?!?

That's the best way.

Byrdguy · 26 November 2011, 09:18 AM

Someone is picking fly dung out of pepper. They are all Submariners or Subs.

26 November 2011, 05:19 AM	#1
cornerstore "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 4,010	Submariner pet peeve Why is it Rolex refers to the Submariner without a date complication as " Submariner " and the Submariner with a date complication as the "Submariner Date" but most Rolex owners with the date complication Submariners refer to their watches as " Submariner/Sub" and use the somewhat disparaging term "Submariner NO Date/Sub NO date" for the actual "Submariner"? The Original had no date complication, so what gives, if the terminology is good enough for Rolex why is not good enough for the majority of Submariner Date owners themselves ? http://www.rolex.com/en#/rolex-watch...l-m14060m-0004

26 November 2011, 05:21 AM	#2
STEELINOX 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Sink-O! Location: a praire in AZ Watch: ROLEX-less atm... Posts: 14,021	I calls it a "Submareener-Date" sans - the silly cycloptic sapphire bubble thingy __________________ *Positive Waves Baby* Lug Hole Loyalist / Chamfer Line Inspector INFORTHE WIN SUB-MAH-REEEN-ER ~ !

26 November 2011, 05:23 AM	#4
moviefreak "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: in my house... Posts: 5,524	The original is the Submariner... The one with added date is the Submariner Date... That is all there is to it... __________________ Cheers, Eduardo Be a WIS not a WUSS... and remove all the stickers..

26 November 2011, 06:46 AM	#12
Conanthelib "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Chris Location: UK. Lancaster Watch: Submariner 2003 Posts: 102	I often wondered why a diver would need to know the date. How much air is left may prove more helpful. Attached Images

26 November 2011, 07:01 AM	#15
03cobraa "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Kelly Location: In the Bluegrass Watch: 116610LN Posts: 550	I say it too, but dont know why! I'll try to do better. I promise!! __________________ SubC 116610LN, DJ 16014, GMT16750 pepsi Matte, Explorer II 16570 Polar V, Sea Dweller 16600, Sub 14060 More to come! "Too many watches, too little time"!

26 November 2011, 05:21 AM	#3
stephentross 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Southwest USA Posts: 896	I agree. I have wondered this myself from time to time.

26 November 2011, 05:30 AM	#6
(DMB) "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Cajun Country Posts: 211	I'd rather that that hearing them called "Rollies, Bluesy, The Hulk, Kermit, etc, etc."

26 November 2011, 06:34 AM	#10
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	I own one and refer to it as a "no-date", I'm going to just start saying "sub" and for what it's worth, I never miss having a date on that watch, I'm just so happy wearing it, that's enough

26 November 2011, 06:58 AM	#14
sandybax "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Tim Location: Florida Watch: No-date Sub Posts: 289	My watch, can call it any name I want!!!

26 November 2011, 08:20 AM	#20
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,515	Some of us don't.. The Sub is a Sub and has been around since 1953 The Sub-Date is a completely different watch.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

26 November 2011, 08:27 AM	#21
Danand "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Jonathan Location: Ottawa Watch: 116610LN Posts: 1,246	Majority rules and there are a lot more of us than you. So tough luck! (lol jk!)

26 November 2011, 08:30 AM	#22
Danand "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Jonathan Location: Ottawa Watch: 116610LN Posts: 1,246	Seriously I think it really does have to do with the fact there are a lot more date models sold, and they are all a version of submariner. So I will refer to my watch as a sub or submariner for simplicity sake, not to try to force anyone else to call theirs a sub no date.

26 November 2011, 08:31 AM	#23
Rollie2011 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: John Location: Palm Beach, FL Watch: Sub-C + Exp 42 Posts: 1,654

26 November 2011, 08:40 AM	#25
MoBe "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 6,773	I say potato you say tomato,so what.

26 November 2011, 08:53 AM	#27
esm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Location,Location Watch: this, bro... Posts: 15,340	There are just no pleasing people these days.... I try to quite the reference number as much as I can... Can't really get wrong with it right?!? 16610 116610LV 116713LN 116520 116433 No?!?

26 November 2011, 09:18 AM	#30
Byrdguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Florida Panhandle Watch: Sub C LV, Posts: 490	Someone is picking fly dung out of pepper. They are all Submariners or Subs.

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