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Old 10 January 2012, 01:17 AM   #1
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Can anyone help me this bracelet?

I'm wondering whether anyone can help validate the authenticity of this listing. Seller appears completely legit (only 2 negative feedback) but I am no expert with these old bracelets.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-100-...item4161147440

Anyone do business with him before?

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Old 10 January 2012, 01:32 AM   #2
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Says "PATETED",missing the N, on the inside of the buckle,two lower right hand pictures.The bracelet looks wrong overall as well,poorly made links.

Don`t know about the seller but the bracelet is fake.
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Old 10 January 2012, 01:46 AM   #3
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...these are...

...widely ACCEPTED as genuine.

...as a matter of fact, there are at least 3 or 4 versions of the stamping.

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Old 10 January 2012, 02:06 AM   #4
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I was aware of the "Pateted" as being authentic. But i just find the stamping on the clasp is off-center.
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Old 10 January 2012, 02:36 AM   #5
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you can bet, that Rolex would never sell a bracelet with a wrong printing (pateted).
Additionally like others said: The buckle is embossed not centered.

Put that together with the folded bracelet links and you have a fake 100%
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Old 10 January 2012, 03:45 AM   #6
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I'm pretty certain that Rolex did issue bracelets with the misspelled word "pateted" and Rolex has used folded link bracelets in the past.

This is a vintage piece, so I wouldn't jump to any conclusions based on what Rolex sells now.

I would post a link to the thread over at the vintage forum to make sure some of those experts drop in with an opinion.

The third picture down is the most damning in my opinion. The coronet is off and there are no engraved numbers beneath Steelinox. So I do have my doubts, too.
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Old 10 January 2012, 03:51 AM   #7
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I will look at this on eBay and check back in, but vintage pieces have many "imperfections.". I have done business with this seller and he has actually sent me parts I need before I've sent him payment. The seller is top-notch. He sent me a screw for the half link on my 93150 clasp that's on my DRSD.


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Old 10 January 2012, 04:11 AM   #8
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I found this thread with a diagram of the 9315 bracelet.

It appears that the one here is fake.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?p=1329113
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Old 10 January 2012, 05:52 AM   #9
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Guys, I really appreciate your help. But with an equal amount of folks saying fake vs genuine, I'm still confused!

I will post over at VRF for additional input, as suggested.
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Old 10 January 2012, 06:02 AM   #10
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No further comment until a consensus is reached.
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Old 10 January 2012, 06:27 AM   #11
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Usually there are a series of numbers on the clasp itself like pictures below.
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Old 10 January 2012, 02:41 PM   #12
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This "pateted" bracelet is 100% genuine and patented was misspelled. Sorry some of the new guys here can't accept it but it is a fact. Anyone into vintage Submariners is well aware of this 9315 bracelet with the spelling error.
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Old 10 January 2012, 07:29 PM   #13
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you can bet, that Rolex would never sell a bracelet with a wrong printing (pateted).
Additionally like others said: The buckle is embossed not centered.

Put that together with the folded bracelet links and you have a fake 100%

oops, I will never judge anyphone based on viewing things on my iPhone.

I can't say, wheter it's genuine, but I have missed out the point, that it's a vintage bracelet and not a modern one.

The not-centered embossing still looks dodgy imo
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Old 11 January 2012, 05:27 AM   #14
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This "pateted" bracelet is 100% genuine and patented was misspelled. Sorry some of the new guys here can't accept it but it is a fact. Anyone into vintage Submariners is well aware of this 9315 bracelet with the spelling error.
But should it be centered???
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Old 11 January 2012, 10:24 AM   #15
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But should it be centered???
Doesn't look like it to me. If they can't spell, I don't know how anyone would expect this manufacturer for Rolex to center it either. There are variations of this band but they are all genuine, unless of course they have counterfeited them, which I'm sure they do. The one here is not of the counterfeit variety.

Edit: I just looked at this ebay band again and the centering looks fine to me, so I really can't address your question regarding something being off-centered.
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Old 11 January 2012, 04:49 PM   #16
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This "pateted" bracelet is 100% genuine and patented was misspelled. Sorry some of the new guys here can't accept it but it is a fact. Anyone into vintage Submariners is well aware of this 9315 bracelet with the spelling error.
You are correct, sir!
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Old 12 January 2012, 12:35 AM   #17
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Thank you all for your input. Hopefully this one stays within my budget!
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Old 12 January 2012, 06:59 AM   #18
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Good luck with the quest. Nice to know the combined knowledge base here can sort these types of tricky things out.

But, that still doesn't verify this bracelet you asked about. Vintage fakers know how to mis-spell also...

See: http://www.network54.com/Forum/20759...5+fake+or+not-
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Old 12 January 2012, 08:01 AM   #19
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Good luck with the quest. Nice to know the combined knowledge base here can sort these types of tricky things out.

But, that still doesn't verify this bracelet you asked about. Vintage fakers know how to mis-spell also...

See: http://www.network54.com/Forum/20759...5+fake+or+not-
Yes they do misspell on the fake bands too, but the question in the original post was "is this band fake on ebay?" Based on the pics it appears genuine.

Many posted it was fake just because it was misspelled, which is of course incorrect.
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