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jimbo1mcm · 12 September 2007, 08:00 AM

Of course, my AD didn't have one, but he did have a Sea Dweller. Wow, is that a gorgeous watch or what? Now I have a problem. I was originally dead set on getting the new GMT 2, because of the new 3186 movement, the better links and clasp, and the better luminosity. Should also be a little more accurate with the parachrom main spring........but, that SD was really nice. So......can you see the time at night without any problem with the SD? And how is the accuracy? I didn't really enjoy the cyclops feature on other GMT's. Never had one on my Omegas. Help me decide!!!! thanks.

Destroy · 12 September 2007, 08:09 AM

That's quite the dilema Jimbo. You really need to wear both back to back - one of the watches will "speak" to you, I guarantee it. But listen, they are both very accurate, being COSC certified. Whilst the new main spring is fancy, I wouldn't let that sway your purchase. Seriously, wait 'till your AD gets a GMT2 in or go to one that has one.

They really are very different watches and will feel and look differently on. If you really don't like the cyclops, sounds like you've already decided!

lostsub · 12 September 2007, 08:11 AM

Get the SD. After I got my SS GMT II Ceramic, I kind of like the not as busy look of the SD/Sub look. So...I bought another SD.

Just my 2 cents..

mike · 12 September 2007, 08:30 AM

Hey Jimbo,

It's always hard to rate one reference over another, personal preference has so much to do with it. I happen to have both so I'll give you my thoughts.

As to accuracy my GMT IIc is the most accurate Rolex I've ever had out of the box. In the 6 weeks I've had it it's gained TWO seconds!

That is certainly not to say the 3135 SD is a slouch in the accuracy department. Mine runs at +3 sec. a day.

Luminosity, in my view favors the GMT. Surface area, ala the maxi-dial, is in a league of it's own compared to the standard markers and hands of the SD, but again as far as luminova goes the SD compares well to other Rolex offerings with like markers.
If you like the clean sans cyclops look then the SD is of course the only game in town.
Size wise the GMT appears a bit wider, but thickness wise I think the SD is still the king. Of course which you prefer is a personal matter.
Here's a few pics to help,

GMT II,

SD,

GMT II lume,

SD lume,

Case thickness,

viper · 12 September 2007, 08:42 AM

nice pics Mike

Letsgodiving · 12 September 2007, 09:16 AM

As far as the Luminosity of the SD, I think you asked if you can see it no problem at night, I would say that I can see mine very well at night. Mine holds pretty well throughout the night as well. I'm sure it is not par w/ the maxi dial but I have no problems with mine. It can be somewhat difficult to see in semi darkness at times, but then again you don't really need the lum when you can see the dial. Good luck and let us know which one you choose.

jimbo1mcm · 12 September 2007, 09:20 AM

Great pix. I had to lean back to keep from drooling into my laptop keyboard. What a forum!!! Thanks for other member inputs. I have to go and put both on my wrist and see which one talks to me.

SPACE-DWELLER · 12 September 2007, 07:59 PM

I hope you take the right decision that makes you happy but judging from our PM's I believe you know yourself what to get

Robb · 12 September 2007, 08:02 PM

I would wait until you see the GMT in person!!! When you see them side by side in person, you will know which one is best for you!

jbradley02 · 12 September 2007, 11:48 PM

You might wanna give this one a try too, pics not that great, you need to see and feel it in person!!

Arturo · 12 September 2007, 11:51 PM

SD classic grandaddy of Subs and sleek under sleeve. Doesn't scream Rolex because there is no cyclops. Just a gorgeous watch. There is no right or wrong here. Both are great.

Watch_Me · 13 September 2007, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jbradley02

You might wanna give this one a try too, pics not that great, you need to see and feel it in person!!

Thats the one I got also.... it is STUNNING in pics but even MORE SO when I tried it on. I cant stop staring at it everytime i have it on my wrist!

rongmt · 13 September 2007, 05:14 AM

Why not..... BUY THEM BOTH?

Gaijin · 13 September 2007, 05:16 AM

I thought this thread was going to be about how you fell in love with some hot sales staff at an AD...

Seadweller · 13 September 2007, 05:21 AM

Great pics.

jimbo1mcm · 13 September 2007, 05:51 AM

She had 65 in her rear view mirror and we aren't talking about speed!!!!!

ron17402 · 13 September 2007, 06:18 AM

I was in the same dilemma until I saw a ceramic GMT in person. Before I saw the GMT, I was strongly considering the SD. There is no doubt that the SD is a suberb watch.

Long story short; I'm now proudly sporting a new GMT. It is such a beautiful watch that pictures don't do justice. By the way, I'll be posting pics of my new 116710 soon.

The ceramic bezel, incredible clasp, solid and polished center links, new movement (+1 second per day), maxi-dial, and super case made the final choice easy (for me anyway).

It has just enough bling for a classy SS watch. And is has just enough heft for a "tool" watch.

If your OCD about scratches, the polished center links may drive you crazy. If you plan on wearing the watch "hard", the brushed links of the SD may be a better choice.

The SD is very top heavy and the raised back makes it sit high on the wrist. The GMT is also heavy, but the overall case is well proportioned.

Basically, try to see a 116710 before you finally decide. It may be difficult to do, but perhaps your AD will let you see one that may be already committed to another buyer; just so you can see one.

Personally, I'm very happy with my decision. But you can't go wrong with either watch. But the last thing you want to do is plunk down $5K for a SD and then see a GMT and wish you had spent the extra $1K on it.

It's a long term relationship, so be patient and choose wisely.

Good luck.

Chris B · 13 September 2007, 07:22 AM

Great pics guys,

Mike, love the way you use the reflection to show the escape valve, truly masterful

Green Arrow · 13 September 2007, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbo1mcm

Of course, my AD didn't have one, but he did have a Sea Dweller. Wow, is that a gorgeous watch or what? Now I have a problem. I was originally dead set on getting the new GMT 2, because of the new 3186 movement, the better links and clasp, and the better luminosity. Should also be a little more accurate with the parachrom main spring........but, that SD was really nice. So......can you see the time at night without any problem with the SD? And how is the accuracy? I didn't really enjoy the cyclops feature on other GMT's. Never had one on my Omegas. Help me decide!!!! thanks.

The SD are neat, but as to your lume question, the GMT II has superior lume to ANY other Rolex, including my Maxi-Dial YM. Not sure why that would be true since both are maxi-dials, but it is true. If lume is your thing, and Rolex is the watch you want, the new GMT is THE best.

Andad · 13 September 2007, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rongmt

Why not..... BUY THEM BOTH?

BiG JeEzY · 13 September 2007, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbo1mcm

Of course, my AD didn't have one, but he did have a Sea Dweller. Wow, is that a gorgeous watch or what? Now I have a problem. I was originally dead set on getting the new GMT 2, because of the new 3186 movement, the better links and clasp, and the better luminosity. Should also be a little more accurate with the parachrom main spring........but, that SD was really nice. So......can you see the time at night without any problem with the SD? And how is the accuracy? I didn't really enjoy the cyclops feature on other GMT's. Never had one on my Omegas. Help me decide!!!! thanks.

I say you get the new SS GMT II with the new 3186 movement.

You will not be disappointed with that watch, trust me.

ron17402 · 14 September 2007, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiG JeEzY

I say you get the new SS GMT II with the new 3186 movement.

You will not be disappointed with that watch, trust me.

I agree. But then again; I'm partial as I recently secured one.

It is a very nice SS watch.

EvEr34 · 14 September 2007, 06:33 AM

Here's the thing. I have an SS GMT II already. Had to go to AD's to get an extra link added to another watch and first time I saw the TT GMT. It's an absolutely gorgeous piece. I came very close to trading in the SS but I held back. One thing is for sure i'm gonna get me one of those babies very soon.

Destroy · 14 September 2007, 09:02 AM

do it now Mike.

EvEr34 · 14 September 2007, 09:05 AM

I should not subscribe to threads. I had to FORGOTTEN about it. Now it's gonna bug me for the rest of the night.

12 September 2007, 08:00 AM	#1
jimbo1mcm Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: connecticut, usa Watch: New GMT2C Posts: 320	Fell in love today looking for a GMT2 Of course, my AD didn't have one, but he did have a Sea Dweller. Wow, is that a gorgeous watch or what? Now I have a problem. I was originally dead set on getting the new GMT 2, because of the new 3186 movement, the better links and clasp, and the better luminosity. Should also be a little more accurate with the parachrom main spring........but, that SD was really nice. So......can you see the time at night without any problem with the SD? And how is the accuracy? I didn't really enjoy the cyclops feature on other GMT's. Never had one on my Omegas. Help me decide!!!! thanks.

12 September 2007, 08:11 AM	#3
lostsub Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Big D Watch: 116520 , SD Posts: 99	Get the SD. After I got my SS GMT II Ceramic, I kind of like the not as busy look of the SD/Sub look. So...I bought another SD. Just my 2 cents.. Last edited by lostsub; 12 September 2007 at 11:46 PM..

12 September 2007, 08:42 AM	#5
viper "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northeast Posts: 943	nice pics Mike __________________ 16610LV 16200 116600 116500

12 September 2007, 09:20 AM	#7
jimbo1mcm Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: connecticut, usa Watch: New GMT2C Posts: 320	Wow!!! Great pix. I had to lean back to keep from drooling into my laptop keyboard. What a forum!!! Thanks for other member inputs. I have to go and put both on my wrist and see which one talks to me.

12 September 2007, 07:59 PM	#8
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	I hope you take the right decision that makes you happy but judging from our PM's I believe you know yourself what to get __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

12 September 2007, 08:09 AM	#2
Destroy Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: AJ Location: Australia Posts: 732	That's quite the dilema Jimbo. You really need to wear both back to back - one of the watches will "speak" to you, I guarantee it. But listen, they are both very accurate, being COSC certified. Whilst the new main spring is fancy, I wouldn't let that sway your purchase. Seriously, wait 'till your AD gets a GMT2 in or go to one that has one. They really are very different watches and will feel and look differently on. If you really don't like the cyclops, sounds like you've already decided!

12 September 2007, 08:30 AM	#4
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Hey Jimbo, It's always hard to rate one reference over another, personal preference has so much to do with it. I happen to have both so I'll give you my thoughts. As to accuracy my GMT IIc is the most accurate Rolex I've ever had out of the box. In the 6 weeks I've had it it's gained TWO seconds! That is certainly not to say the 3135 SD is a slouch in the accuracy department. Mine runs at +3 sec. a day. Luminosity, in my view favors the GMT. Surface area, ala the maxi-dial, is in a league of it's own compared to the standard markers and hands of the SD, but again as far as luminova goes the SD compares well to other Rolex offerings with like markers. If you like the clean sans cyclops look then the SD is of course the only game in town. Size wise the GMT appears a bit wider, but thickness wise I think the SD is still the king. Of course which you prefer is a personal matter. Here's a few pics to help, GMT II, SD, GMT II lume, SD lume, Case thickness,

12 September 2007, 09:16 AM	#6
Letsgodiving "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Mike Location: Virginia, US Watch: SD 16600 Posts: 4,319	As far as the Luminosity of the SD, I think you asked if you can see it no problem at night, I would say that I can see mine very well at night. Mine holds pretty well throughout the night as well. I'm sure it is not par w/ the maxi dial but I have no problems with mine. It can be somewhat difficult to see in semi darkness at times, but then again you don't really need the lum when you can see the dial. Good luck and let us know which one you choose.

12 September 2007, 08:02 PM	#9
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12 September 2007, 11:48 PM	#10
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12 September 2007, 11:51 PM	#11
Arturo "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Arturo Location: Pacific Northwest Watch: Black GMT ll Posts: 1,271	SD classic grandaddy of Subs and sleek under sleeve. Doesn't scream Rolex because there is no cyclops. Just a gorgeous watch. There is no right or wrong here. Both are great.

13 September 2007, 05:14 AM	#13
rongmt "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: California Posts: 107	Why not..... BUY THEM BOTH? __________________ 1992 TT GMT II (E) with Luminova upgrade 2004 TT GMT II (U) with slate Serti dial 2006 Sea-Dweller (R) 2007 TT Sub (Z) with slate Serti dial 2004 Breitling Emergency Ti w/Blue dial and co-pilot module

13 September 2007, 05:16 AM	#14
Gaijin 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Japan Watch: ing your back. Posts: 16,179	I thought this thread was going to be about how you fell in love with some hot sales staff at an AD...

13 September 2007, 05:21 AM	#15
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13 September 2007, 05:51 AM	#16
jimbo1mcm Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: connecticut, usa Watch: New GMT2C Posts: 320	Sales staff at AD She had 65 in her rear view mirror and we aren't talking about speed!!!!!

13 September 2007, 06:18 AM	#17
ron17402 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Ron Location: Charlotte, NC USA Watch: 116710 Posts: 435	I was in the same dilemma until I saw a ceramic GMT in person. Before I saw the GMT, I was strongly considering the SD. There is no doubt that the SD is a suberb watch. Long story short; I'm now proudly sporting a new GMT. It is such a beautiful watch that pictures don't do justice. By the way, I'll be posting pics of my new 116710 soon. The ceramic bezel, incredible clasp, solid and polished center links, new movement (+1 second per day), maxi-dial, and super case made the final choice easy (for me anyway). It has just enough bling for a classy SS watch. And is has just enough heft for a "tool" watch. If your OCD about scratches, the polished center links may drive you crazy. If you plan on wearing the watch "hard", the brushed links of the SD may be a better choice. The SD is very top heavy and the raised back makes it sit high on the wrist. The GMT is also heavy, but the overall case is well proportioned. Basically, try to see a 116710 before you finally decide. It may be difficult to do, but perhaps your AD will let you see one that may be already committed to another buyer; just so you can see one. Personally, I'm very happy with my decision. But you can't go wrong with either watch. But the last thing you want to do is plunk down $5K for a SD and then see a GMT and wish you had spent the extra $1K on it. It's a long term relationship, so be patient and choose wisely. Good luck.

13 September 2007, 07:22 AM	#18
Chris B "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Peterborough Posts: 9,631	Great pics guys, Mike, love the way you use the reflection to show the escape valve, truly masterful

14 September 2007, 06:33 AM	#23
EvEr34 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Mike Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,909	Here's the thing. I have an SS GMT II already. Had to go to AD's to get an extra link added to another watch and first time I saw the TT GMT. It's an absolutely gorgeous piece. I came very close to trading in the SS but I held back. One thing is for sure i'm gonna get me one of those babies very soon.

14 September 2007, 09:02 AM	#24
Destroy Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: AJ Location: Australia Posts: 732	do it now Mike.

14 September 2007, 09:05 AM	#25
EvEr34 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Mike Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,909	I should not subscribe to threads. I had to FORGOTTEN about it. Now it's gonna bug me for the rest of the night.

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