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ron17402 · 4 October 2007, 05:25 AM

I was at my AD today discussing the mis-alignment of the green hand of my new GMT. While I was demonstrating the issue, I had to back-up a few minutes to illustrate the issue. She immediately "yelled" at me for turning the movement backwards.

She said that you NEVER move an automatic watch backwards, since it is not designed to be moved backwards and that it could damage the movement, and even hinted that my alignment issue was caused by me turning the movement backwards occasionally.

IS it a big deal to turn the movement (crown) backwards?

JJ Irani · 4 October 2007, 05:28 AM

No big deal at all.

Once you unscrew the crown and pull it out to the last notch, the watch will STOP. So you can then move the hands in direction you like.

With the GMT-II, you can even move the DATE backwards in case you are travelling into a timezone which is a few hours behind the one you've just come from.

No worries at all, my friend. Sometimes the guys at AD talking a lot of BS!!

SPACE-DWELLER · 4 October 2007, 05:28 AM

You can do that without any problems on all modern watches, including Rolex

timebroker · 4 October 2007, 05:35 AM

If that was still true these days, 50% of all the watches would be returned after 1 month

Pocket watches, especially repeaters is a whole different story though!

mike · 4 October 2007, 08:18 AM

You can certainly do it.

Destroy · 4 October 2007, 08:22 AM

I'm sorry Ron but that's RUBBISH.

First of all, why would Rolex go through all the effort of incorporating/designing a function where you can REVERSE the date?? Secondly, if it was so BAD for the movement, they'd incorporate a feature to block you from doing it - not to mention they'd have it in their manual. Thirdly, a GMT time piece is next to useless if you can't wind back...........I could go on.

Your AD's smokin' weed brutha!

daunwaun · 4 October 2007, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

No big deal at all.

Once you unscrew the crown and pull it out to the last notch, the watch will STOP. So you can then move the hands in direction you like.

With the GMT-II, you can even move the DATE backwards in case you are travelling into a timezone which is a few hours behind the one you've just come from.

No worries at all, my friend. Sometimes the guys at AD talking a lot of BS!!

She has no clue, send her back to work at costco

dcash0615 · 4 October 2007, 08:41 AM

I agree. This is just another example of how clueless a lot of these sales associates are that try and sell you these fine timepeices.

I say you go back and give that sale associate an education and make them realize how stupid they are.

ron17402 · 4 October 2007, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroy

I'm sorry Ron but that's RUBBISH.

First of all, why would Rolex go through all the effort of incorporating/designing a function where you can REVERSE the date?? Secondly, if it was so BAD for the movement, they'd incorporate a feature to block you from doing it - not to mention they'd have it in their manual. Thirdly, a GMT time piece is next to useless if you can't wind back...........I could go on.

Your AD's smokin' weed brutha!

I know!!

I told her that if it was damaging to the movement, it would be detailed in the manual. She tried to give me some lame excuse that it should be common knowledge that you would not turn an automatic movement backwards.

I'll have to re-educate her. And I'm going to guilt her into giving me another copy of the WatchTime Rolex issue for Chad.

The moral of the story is that most AD salespeople really don't know sh*t!!

watchnut · 4 October 2007, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by daunwaun

She has no clue, send her back to work at costco

Unless she has JJ approved cleavage in which case give her a raise!

Tools · 4 October 2007, 09:12 AM

Rolex watches are very flexible.

You can turn them this way and you can turn them that way..

you can even flip them...

JJ Irani · 4 October 2007, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by watchnut

Unless she has JJ approved cleavage in which case give her a raise!

Welshwatchman · 4 October 2007, 09:24 AM

You should never turn ANY watch hands backward.

I saw a documentary about it and all sorts of problems ensued.

I think it was called "Back to the future".

People met their own parents as children, others disappeared from photographs, a Deloreon car was wrecked, just chaos.

Listen to your AD, they alway give tip top advice.

Tombstone · 4 October 2007, 09:32 AM

Paul
That is funny, if that is the case I wish to go back in time and stop myself from buying all those Breitlings.

daunwaun · 4 October 2007, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by watchnut

Unless she has JJ approved cleavage in which case give her a raise!

lol true story

frostie · 4 October 2007, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone

Paul
That is funny, if that is the case I wish to go back in time and stop myself from buying all those Breitlings.

robrtx · 4 October 2007, 11:57 AM

Can I turn my watch back to 1987 and buy some Microsoft stock?

Superlative · 4 October 2007, 12:06 PM

it's pretty sad that the buyer know more about the watch then the people selling it! when I got my Rolex I ask the seller what kind of movement the sub/date has and the lady was lost for words?lol

BiG JeEzY · 4 October 2007, 12:12 PM

Yes I agree with what everyone has already said. Turning back the hands on a Rolex or any modern watch for that matter is perfectly fine.

The only exception to this are more complicated timepieces that have a perpetual calender and so forth.

Turning the hands backwards has ABSOLUTELY NO effect to mis alignment of the hands in any way.

There might be some play when turning them back but nothing major.

syed · 8 October 2007, 07:23 AM

I used to accidently move the watch backwards and fell guilty but till date nothing really happened so its a load of BBS

roadcarver · 8 October 2007, 07:41 AM

She probably thought it would turn back time!

4 October 2007, 05:25 AM	#1
ron17402 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Ron Location: Charlotte, NC USA Watch: 116710 Posts: 435	Is it OK to turn movement backwards? I was at my AD today discussing the mis-alignment of the green hand of my new GMT. While I was demonstrating the issue, I had to back-up a few minutes to illustrate the issue. She immediately "yelled" at me for turning the movement backwards. She said that you NEVER move an automatic watch backwards, since it is not designed to be moved backwards and that it could damage the movement, and even hinted that my alignment issue was caused by me turning the movement backwards occasionally. IS it a big deal to turn the movement (crown) backwards?

4 October 2007, 05:28 AM	#2
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	No big deal at all. Once you unscrew the crown and pull it out to the last notch, the watch will STOP. So you can then move the hands in direction you like. With the GMT-II, you can even move the DATE backwards in case you are travelling into a timezone which is a few hours behind the one you've just come from. No worries at all, my friend. Sometimes the guys at AD talking a lot of BS!! __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

4 October 2007, 05:28 AM	#3
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	You can do that without any problems on all modern watches, including Rolex __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

4 October 2007, 09:24 AM	#13
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	You should never turn ANY watch hands backward. I saw a documentary about it and all sorts of problems ensued. I think it was called "Back to the future". People met their own parents as children, others disappeared from photographs, a Deloreon car was wrecked, just chaos. Listen to your AD, they alway give tip top advice. __________________ ..33

4 October 2007, 11:57 AM	#17
robrtx "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Bob Location: Hawaii Watch: you talkin' 'bout Posts: 291	Can I turn my watch back to 1987 and buy some Microsoft stock? __________________ "In youth and beauty wisdom is rare"

4 October 2007, 05:35 AM	#4
timebroker "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Filip Location: Belgium Posts: 1,619	If that was still true these days, 50% of all the watches would be returned after 1 month Pocket watches, especially repeaters is a whole different story though!

4 October 2007, 08:18 AM	#5
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	You can certainly do it.

4 October 2007, 08:22 AM	#6
Destroy Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: AJ Location: Australia Posts: 732	I'm sorry Ron but that's RUBBISH. First of all, why would Rolex go through all the effort of incorporating/designing a function where you can REVERSE the date?? Secondly, if it was so BAD for the movement, they'd incorporate a feature to block you from doing it - not to mention they'd have it in their manual. Thirdly, a GMT time piece is next to useless if you can't wind back...........I could go on. Your AD's smokin' weed brutha!

4 October 2007, 08:41 AM	#8
dcash0615 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Dave Location: CA Watch: es Posts: 4,395	I agree. This is just another example of how clueless a lot of these sales associates are that try and sell you these fine timepeices. I say you go back and give that sale associate an education and make them realize how stupid they are.

4 October 2007, 09:12 AM	#11
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	Rolex watches are very flexible. You can turn them this way and you can turn them that way.. you can even flip them...

4 October 2007, 09:32 AM	#14
Tombstone "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Richard Location: LV, NV Watch: LV Sub and others Posts: 2,689	Paul That is funny, if that is the case I wish to go back in time and stop myself from buying all those Breitlings.

4 October 2007, 12:06 PM	#18
Superlative Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Mark Location: CHARLESTON Watch: Z16610 Posts: 153	it's pretty sad that the buyer know more about the watch then the people selling it! when I got my Rolex I ask the seller what kind of movement the sub/date has and the lady was lost for words?lol

4 October 2007, 12:12 PM	#19
BiG JeEzY "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Jerome Location: N. California Watch: GMT I/EXP II/DJ Posts: 3,351	Yes I agree with what everyone has already said. Turning back the hands on a Rolex or any modern watch for that matter is perfectly fine. The only exception to this are more complicated timepieces that have a perpetual calender and so forth. Turning the hands backwards has ABSOLUTELY NO effect to mis alignment of the hands in any way. There might be some play when turning them back but nothing major. __________________ -Rolex Explorer II Black dial 16570 (circa 2001) -Rolex GMT Master I Pepsi 1675 (circa 1978) -Rolex Datejust TT Champagne 16233 (circa 1991) -Vintage Longines Automatic La Grande Classique -Vintage Seiko 6138 Automatic Chronograph with "Kakume" Dial

8 October 2007, 07:23 AM	#20
syed Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: malaysia Posts: 62	I used to accidently move the watch backwards and fell guilty but till date nothing really happened so its a load of BBS

8 October 2007, 07:41 AM	#21
roadcarver "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Vernon Location: C-a-n-a-d-a Watch: 16600 Posts: 5,641	She probably thought it would turn back time! __________________ I'm just a cook...

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