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JJ Irani · 9 October 2007, 04:40 PM

Hi guys,

In recent times, we've had a number of members buying up SS Daytonas left, right and centre.

Love the Daytona for its good looks and possibly world's best Chrono movement, but personally would never buy one.....because....

1. No date.

2. Stationary Chrono hand would drive me nuts!!

3. Too many $$$ to be forking out for a watch which has basically only one practical function - TIME!!

But it's still one of the finest looking watches in the world!!

BiG JeEzY · 9 October 2007, 04:46 PM

I have noticed that too JJ! I thought I was the only one.

It seems like each and every week, a member of TRF gets a

brand new Daytona. I guess Rolex is starting to match supply

with demand.

SPACE-DWELLER · 9 October 2007, 04:53 PM

I like the Daytona because of its DESIGN and QUALITY.

The Rolex cal. 4130 mvt. is considered to be one of the best chronograph mvts. EVER made (it is on the "Ten best mvts." list I saw somewhere but cannot find it right now being at work).

I love the new, IMHO more logical "Tricompax" arrangement of the subsidiary dials with the continously running seconds at six and the minute and hour counters at 3 and nine.

IMHO; this watch does not NEED a date, and a date aparture would spoil the whole design of the watch.

Furthermore, some other improvements compared to the predecessor, the "Zenith" cal. 4030 mvt. is that you now have a HACKING second's function (i.e.: you are able to STOP the continously running second's hand via the winding crown). Also, the much sturdier made bracelet with its improved clasp with the "Easy Extension" link and solid centre links add to my fascination of that specific watch.

Since I don't LIKE TT watches, and cannot afford an all-gold Daytona (and also would tend to find SPORT'S Rolex watches in ALL-GOLD a bit "missing the point", since "sports" and "gold" don't really match), the STAINLESS STEEL Daytona was pretty much the ONLY choice I had to get the Daytona.

Maybe the hardest one to get, but IMHO also the most beautiful of them all.

Jedi · 9 October 2007, 05:04 PM

Maybe it's because this is TRF that we see so many Daytona's being bought up due to the fact that members here are keener and work harded at securing their Daytona's.

It's the same as any venture right? If you put in the time, and the money of course

then you'll get results.

Think of just how many more out there are waiting for their Daytonas that we don't hear about??

walds11 · 9 October 2007, 05:06 PM

Amen Bo!!! Well said. The Daytona is my favorite chrono and probably my favorite all time watch. I also like the tricompax subdial arrangement with the subdials at 3, 6, and 9. What you describe as the function of each of the subdials is called "Hunter-style construction," not tricompax. I read that in a WatchTime article. The Daytona is one sharp looking watch!

SPACE-DWELLER · 9 October 2007, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walds11

Amen Bo!!! Well said. The Daytona is my favorite chrono and probably my favorite all time watch. I also like the tricompax subdial arrangement with the subdials at 3, 6, and 9. What you describe as the function of each of the subdials is called "Hunter-style construction," not tricompax. I read that in a WatchTime article. The Daytona is one sharp looking watch!

Yes, the arrangement is "Hunter's style", but ALSO "Tricompax"

The Zenith has Tricompax arrangement, too, but the continously running seconds at NINE arrangement was the socalled "Lépine" arrangement.

veilstylez · 9 October 2007, 05:22 PM

yeah its been crazy here with all the Daytonas. Whats going on, is Rolex really making more of them.

SPACE-DWELLER · 9 October 2007, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JediSubExII

Maybe it's because this is TRF that we see so many Daytona's being bought up due to the fact that members here are keener and work harded at securing their Daytona's.

It's the same as any venture right? If you put in the time, and the money of course

then you'll get results.

Think of just how many more out there are waiting for their Daytonas that we don't hear about??

Quote:

Originally Posted by veilstylez

yeah its been crazy here with all the Daytonas. Whats going on, is Rolex really making more of them.

It might also just be a case of SS Daytonas being "easier" to get only AT THE MOMENT! The market goes up and down all the time. IMHO, it is just a question of normal market fluctuation.

Many on the list for the SS Daytona give the AD the "dont want it, cant afford it, bad timing"-response when they make that famous Daytona since those customers being called already GOT the SS Daytona from another AD since many let themselves be put on the list at several AD's.

walds11 · 9 October 2007, 05:26 PM

I agree Bo. It's just a spurt at the moment :) Look back a few months ago and you would not see this type of SS Daytona activity on TRF or any other watch forum.

I love the SS Daytona phenomenon. I am on my third one. I'll learn my lesson this time, not sell it :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spacedweller

It might also just be a case of SS Daytonas being "easier" to get only AT THE MOMENT! The market goes up and down all the time. IMHO, it is just a question of normal market fluctuation.

Many on the list for the SS Daytona give the AD the "dont want it, cant afford it, bad timing"-response when they make that famous Daytona since those customers being called already GOT the SS Daytona from another AD since many let themselves be put on the list at several AD's.

SPACE-DWELLER · 9 October 2007, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walds11

I agree Bo. It's just a spurt at the moment :) Look back a few months ago and you would not see this type of SS Daytona activity on TRF or any other watch forum.

I love the SS Daytona phenomenon. I am on my third one. I'll learn my lesson this time, not sell it :)

I know what you mean!

My SS Daytona is my FOURTH one

Here's my flipping list:

And THIS is now my updated list over "flipped Rolex watches" (currently only have number 20 + 21):

1. Submariner Date (16610) R 97 XXXX, bought on 22.04.1989

2. Submariner (O.P.) 5513, (serial # n/a), swopped at Portobello Road Market in London for a Sub Date 16610

3. Datejust (16234), serial # n/a, bought on 22.11.1989 at "Watches of Switzerland" in London.

4. Submariner Date (16610) L 55 XXXX, bought on 25.05.1990 from my AD in Denmark.

5. Submariner Date (16610), X 90 XXXX, bought on 06.10.1993 from my AD in Denmark.

6. Datejust (16234), X 33 XXXX, bought on 08.02.1994 from my AD in Denmark.

7. Date, Lady (69240), X 56 XXXX, bought on 10.05.1994 for my mother from my AD in Denmark.

8. Submariner Date (16610), W 24 XXXX, bought on 13.06.1994 from my AD in Denmark.

9. Submariner Date (16610), W 24 XXXX, bought on 02.06.1995 from my AD in Denmark.

10. Sea-Dweller (16600), S 50 XXXX, bought on 07.06.1995 from my AD in Denmark.

11. Submariner Date (16610), X 78 XXXX, bought on 28.11.1995 from my AD in Denmark.

12. Cosmograph Daytona (16520), W 39 XXXX, bought on 10.10.1995 from my AD in Denmark. WHITE face.

13. Cosmograph Daytona (16520), T 31 XXXX, bought on21.11.1996 from my AD in Denmark. BLACK face.

14. Datejust (16220), U 53 XXXX, bought on 06.10.1998 from another AD in Denmark than my usual AD.

15. Submariner Date (16610), A 22 XXXX, bought on 03.05.1999, again from another AD than my usual AD.

16. Cosmograph Daytona (16520), A 30 XXXX, bought on07.09.1999 from my AD in Denmark. WHITE face.

17. Submariner Date (16610), A 74 XXXX, bought on 13.06.2000 from another AD than my usual AD.

18. Sea-Dweller (16600), serial # n/a, bought on 18.09.2003 from my AD in Denmark.

19. Submariner Date (16610), Z 87 XXXX, bought on 27.07.2007 from yet another new AD.

20. Sea-Dweller 4000 (16600), M02XXXX, bought on 06.09.2007 (swopped the Sub Date for the SD at my AD).

21. Cosmograph Daytony (116520), M04XXXX, bought on 28-09-2007 from my good old AD.

veilstylez · 9 October 2007, 06:13 PM

I can pick one up at 10.5k bnib right now at this AD, but I just dont want to. I mean I know the watch is worth that much because of the market but I just cant justify it. Especialy now that Im acutally on a "list", thank god for that. Its worth the wait for me, if I do get it later. Im just going to have to wait for that call like everybody else did.

SPACE-DWELLER · 9 October 2007, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spacedweller

....
The Rolex cal. 4130 mvt. is considered to be one of the best chronograph mvts. EVER made (it is on the "Ten best mvts." list I saw somewhere but cannot find it right now being at work)....

Update:

I found the link I couldn't find before. Here it is:

Daytona Cal. 4130 among the Top Ten best mvts. CLICK!

I quote from that site:

"It's already being called one of the top 10 watch movements ever made" (my emphasis).

walds11 · 9 October 2007, 08:39 PM

Great article from WatchTime Magazine, old versus new...

http://www.watchtime.com/archive/wt_...001_05_042.pdf

SPACE-DWELLER · 9 October 2007, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walds11

Great article from WatchTime Magazine, old versus new...

http://www.watchtime.com/archive/wt_...001_05_042.pdf

Yes, that's a good article!

Here's another one:

The Daytona Saga. CLICK!

timebroker · 9 October 2007, 08:58 PM

Didn't know they used words like hunter and lepine for arrangements on dials

, for pocket watches a hunter case is one with dustcovers (or semi hunter for 1) and lepine was a watch maker and a type of movement.

kcmo · 10 October 2007, 12:27 AM

Trying to wait patiently.....

roadcarver · 10 October 2007, 12:36 AM

Great review. If I had the money and didn't care about the date function, I would have gotten a Daytona in addition to my SMP Chrono that has the 3303 movement.

Too bad the 3303 was marred by QC issues, and at first was hesitant on getting my SMP with the cal 3303. However, been said that if it breaks, it breaks right away. So far (knock on wood) mine is resetting correctly.

The cal 4130 has an impressive 72hr PR while the cal 3303 has a 55hr PR. Does the date function eat away at the PR at all? I'm assuming it does not.

To all you Daytona owners, wear your watches in good health!

Blue Bull · 10 October 2007, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcmo

Trying to wait patiently.....

Why wait if its "coming out of our ears" ??

roadcarver · 10 October 2007, 01:10 AM

Perhaps waiting patiently to save $$.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Bull

Why wait if its "coming out of our ears" ??

kcmo · 10 October 2007, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Bull

Why wait if its "coming out of our ears" ??

Not MY ears.....

Blue Bull · 10 October 2007, 01:15 AM

JJ,its also the most profitable "flipping" Rolex.

A flippers dream watch.

Blue Bull · 10 October 2007, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcmo

Not MY ears.....

Had a look in my ears and I dont see any ........

kcmo · 10 October 2007, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Bull

Had a look in my ears and I dont see any ........

How could you MISS the TWO WHITES in your left ear and the BLACK in your right ear??? You're a DOCTOR!!!

SPACE-DWELLER · 10 October 2007, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcmo

Trying to wait patiently.....

Try to forget you ordered it. There is something magical by doing it.

I ordered my SS Daytona on April the 26th. this year and got it on the 28th. of September.

I really gave it much thought until sometime in August when I FORGOT it! And what happened? It came about one month later.

Blue Bull · 10 October 2007, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcmo

How could you MISS the TWO WHITES in your left ear and the BLACK in your right ear??? You're a DOCTOR!!!

Who says its only one black ??

kcmo · 10 October 2007, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spacedweller

Try to forget you ordered it. There is something magical by doing it.

I ordered my SS Daytona on April the 26th. this year and got it on the 28th. of September.

I really gave it much thought until sometime in August when I FORGOT it! And what happened? It came about one month later.

Thanks Bo....I would feel better if I'd ORDERED one....but I'm on two lists waiting. Best to forget about it I know, but then I see everyone's gorgeous photos! Ha! I do plan on checking in with the ADs every few months to make sure I'm still on those lists! We'll see what happens. In the meantime I do have my 16610 which I adore!!!! And the 116234.....which may soon be going....

kcmo · 10 October 2007, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Bull

Who says its only one black ??

I'm afraid to ask.......

Blue Bull · 10 October 2007, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcmo

I'm afraid to ask.......

SPACE-DWELLER · 10 October 2007, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcmo

Thanks Bo....I would feel better if I'd ORDERED one....but I'm on two lists waiting. Best to forget about it I know, but then I see everyone's gorgeous photos! Ha! I do plan on checking in with the ADs every few months to make sure I'm still on those lists! We'll see what happens. In the meantime I do have my 16610 which I adore!!!! And the 116234.....which may soon be going....

Give those AD's a call! You have to make yourself heard or else you might just be "forgotten" on that list.

I guess that would also mean that you could not forget it totally, but try to get it out of your mind after having placed those calls.

kcmo · 10 October 2007, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spacedweller

Give those AD's a call! You have to make yourself heard or else you might just be "forgotten" on that list.

I guess that would also mean that you could not forget it totally, but try to get it out of your mind after having placed those calls.

Will do, thanks!

9 October 2007, 04:40 PM	#1
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	Now, all of a sudden, we've got Daytonas coming out of our ears!! Hi guys, In recent times, we've had a number of members buying up SS Daytonas left, right and centre. Love the Daytona for its good looks and possibly world's best Chrono movement, but personally would never buy one.....because.... 1. No date. 2. Stationary Chrono hand would drive me nuts!! 3. Too many $$$ to be forking out for a watch which has basically only one practical function - TIME!! But it's still one of the finest looking watches in the world!! __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

9 October 2007, 04:46 PM	#2
BiG JeEzY "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Jerome Location: N. California Watch: GMT I/EXP II/DJ Posts: 3,351	I have noticed that too JJ! I thought I was the only one. It seems like each and every week, a member of TRF gets a brand new Daytona. I guess Rolex is starting to match supply with demand. __________________ -Rolex Explorer II Black dial 16570 (circa 2001) -Rolex GMT Master I Pepsi 1675 (circa 1978) -Rolex Datejust TT Champagne 16233 (circa 1991) -Vintage Longines Automatic La Grande Classique -Vintage Seiko 6138 Automatic Chronograph with "Kakume" Dial

9 October 2007, 04:53 PM	#3
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	I like the Daytona because of its DESIGN and QUALITY. The Rolex cal. 4130 mvt. is considered to be one of the best chronograph mvts. EVER made (it is on the "Ten best mvts." list I saw somewhere but cannot find it right now being at work). I love the new, IMHO more logical "Tricompax" arrangement of the subsidiary dials with the continously running seconds at six and the minute and hour counters at 3 and nine. IMHO; this watch does not NEED a date, and a date aparture would spoil the whole design of the watch. Furthermore, some other improvements compared to the predecessor, the "Zenith" cal. 4030 mvt. is that you now have a HACKING second's function (i.e.: you are able to STOP the continously running second's hand via the winding crown). Also, the much sturdier made bracelet with its improved clasp with the "Easy Extension" link and solid centre links add to my fascination of that specific watch. Since I don't LIKE TT watches, and cannot afford an all-gold Daytona (and also would tend to find SPORT'S Rolex watches in ALL-GOLD a bit "missing the point", since "sports" and "gold" don't really match), the STAINLESS STEEL Daytona was pretty much the ONLY choice I had to get the Daytona. Maybe the hardest one to get, but IMHO also the most beautiful of them all. __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

10 October 2007, 12:36 AM	#17
roadcarver "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Vernon Location: C-a-n-a-d-a Watch: 16600 Posts: 5,641	Great review. If I had the money and didn't care about the date function, I would have gotten a Daytona in addition to my SMP Chrono that has the 3303 movement. Too bad the 3303 was marred by QC issues, and at first was hesitant on getting my SMP with the cal 3303. However, been said that if it breaks, it breaks right away. So far (knock on wood) mine is resetting correctly. The cal 4130 has an impressive 72hr PR while the cal 3303 has a 55hr PR. Does the date function eat away at the PR at all? I'm assuming it does not. To all you Daytona owners, wear your watches in good health! __________________ I'm just a cook...

10 October 2007, 01:15 AM	#21
Blue Bull Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,887	JJ,its also the most profitable "flipping" Rolex.A flippers dream watch.

9 October 2007, 05:04 PM	#4
Jedi "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Lee Location: Malaysia Watch: 16750 Posts: 2,534	Maybe it's because this is TRF that we see so many Daytona's being bought up due to the fact that members here are keener and work harded at securing their Daytona's. It's the same as any venture right? If you put in the time, and the money of course then you'll get results. Think of just how many more out there are waiting for their Daytonas that we don't hear about??

9 October 2007, 05:06 PM	#5
walds11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Adam Location: Philly ‘burbs Posts: 5,660	Amen Bo!!! Well said. The Daytona is my favorite chrono and probably my favorite all time watch. I also like the tricompax subdial arrangement with the subdials at 3, 6, and 9. What you describe as the function of each of the subdials is called "Hunter-style construction," not tricompax. I read that in a WatchTime article. The Daytona is one sharp looking watch!

9 October 2007, 05:22 PM	#7
veilstylez "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: so cali Posts: 1,253	yeah its been crazy here with all the Daytonas. Whats going on, is Rolex really making more of them.

9 October 2007, 06:13 PM	#11
veilstylez "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: so cali Posts: 1,253	I can pick one up at 10.5k bnib right now at this AD, but I just dont want to. I mean I know the watch is worth that much because of the market but I just cant justify it. Especialy now that Im acutally on a "list", thank god for that. Its worth the wait for me, if I do get it later. Im just going to have to wait for that call like everybody else did.

9 October 2007, 08:39 PM	#13
walds11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Adam Location: Philly ‘burbs Posts: 5,660	Great article from WatchTime Magazine, old versus new... http://www.watchtime.com/archive/wt_...001_05_042.pdf

9 October 2007, 08:58 PM	#15
timebroker "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Filip Location: Belgium Posts: 1,619	Didn't know they used words like hunter and lepine for arrangements on dials , for pocket watches a hunter case is one with dustcovers (or semi hunter for 1) and lepine was a watch maker and a type of movement.

10 October 2007, 12:27 AM	#16
kcmo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Karis Location: USA Posts: 19,377	Trying to wait patiently.....

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