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billyr · 15 May 2012, 03:57 AM

Brand new to the site, i bought a 2005 stainless black sub the other day and am debating bringing it back for the newer ceramic modal. Comments are most welcomed as i am very torn. Thanks

imono · 15 May 2012, 04:00 AM

A newer Sub 116610 has a slightly different case look.
I like newer things so...

fpharryc · 15 May 2012, 04:01 AM

pics, please.

rossi46 · 15 May 2012, 04:02 AM

Depends... what are your thoughts that led to considering the newer model? Is it just because "it's newer" ? Or, does it come down to the technical differences? (improved clasp, bigger hour markers on dial, blue lume, etc.)

Grey.Coupe · 15 May 2012, 04:03 AM

I hesitate to respond because I don't like these "can't decide" posts.

However, I did this trade when the new sub came out. I have been very pleased. The bracelet alone is worth the trade.

wrxsti · 15 May 2012, 04:13 AM

if you want

fatter lugs, wears larger
maxi markers/hands
ceramic bezel
glidelock clasp

if u want to keep the classic

classic shaped case
metal bezel
lighter weight

Unless you got a great deal on this older sub i would upgrade to the new sub, the glidelock clasp is amazing and that alone is worth upgrading.

billyr · 15 May 2012, 04:59 AM

not sure if my last post made it. i have a 2005 sub that i just got. thinking of getting the newer ceramic stainless black instead. let me know what you guys think, thanks

azguy · 15 May 2012, 05:17 AM

Welcome

What would make you consider going from that Sub 16610 to the ceramic version.....

....just asking....

billyr · 15 May 2012, 05:25 AM

i do like the fact that it is a bit bigger and i do like the braclet.

seanthome · 15 May 2012, 05:31 AM

Isn't it the same 40mm size? I wish they would make the sub bigger. The bezel makes the dial look small.

billyr · 15 May 2012, 05:34 AM

yes still 40mm the bezel is a little chunkier...you dont like it?

novan3 · 15 May 2012, 05:51 AM

Newer is shinier..

TSW · 15 May 2012, 06:39 AM

Can't go wrong with either one!

judodave1964 · 15 May 2012, 07:40 AM

have you tried the new sub on ? its a lot heavier than the 16610, I looked into changing/upgrading like you when they first came out but as I have a small wrist it didn't look and feel as good my 16610. But its a very handsome watch and the clasp is a big improvement on ours.

mrbill2mrbill2 · 15 May 2012, 08:36 AM

Great choice. I, for one, prefer the way the classic 16610 case and lugs flow/blent into the bracelet over the maxi case. But, I do like the new bracelet. Now if we could just ...

mmmmp · 15 May 2012, 08:38 AM

Geez man, give the 16610 a chance! If you're already considering selling it, why did you buy it in the place? Think it through carefully you may regret it. Good luck.

gwozhog · 15 May 2012, 09:02 AM

If your having doubts this early you bought the wrong watch. Sorry but other than the wider lugs there is nothing to complain about the new subc.

Maxfli · 15 May 2012, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billyr

am debating bringing it back for the newer ceramic modal.

The question is, "Why?" Without know the source of your indecision, it's impossible to offer advice.

billyr · 15 May 2012, 09:46 AM

Thanks all for your comments. I upgraded this afternoon to the new sub!! Love it.

drockadam · 15 May 2012, 09:48 AM

How about donating your 16610 to the Adam D Submariner Foundation, and then purchasing a 116610LN?

But in all seriousness, don't get rid of your 16610.

billyr · 15 May 2012, 09:50 AM

Thanks guys, love to hear from a TO boy! None the less I did get the new one this afternoon. Appreciate the comments.

drockadam · 15 May 2012, 09:54 AM

How about donating your 16610 to the Adam D Submariner Foundation, and then purchasing a 116610LN?

But in all seriousness, don't get rid of your 16610.

DCgator · 15 May 2012, 01:12 PM

Keep and enjoy what you bought and decide later what models you want to add. My 2c.

Tools · 15 May 2012, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billyr

Thanks all for your comments. I upgraded this afternoon to the new sub!! Love it.

We should always be happy with what we have on our wrist..

MoBe · 15 May 2012, 01:31 PM

` depends on what you want or need,only you can decide.

caryyee · 15 May 2012, 02:13 PM

The deal breaker for me is the newer Glidelock clasp, it's brilliant, and brings up the quality up to the level of the rest of the watch. Myself personally, I couldn't ever go back to the older style pressed clasp bracelets .... that's just my opinion though, it will depend on the reasons why YOU want to change, and if the price differential is worth it to you ...

CLRBLULITE · 15 May 2012, 07:49 PM

LOVE the newer Sub ceramic. But I also like newer as well.

dddrees · 15 May 2012, 08:09 PM

It just depends which one you like the most.

Either older version or newer version have their own strengths and weaknesses.

SeaDweller50 · 16 May 2012, 06:23 AM

I went the other way. Much prefer the classic look. I prefer the tuna can clasp, aluminium insert, don't like the shine on the ceramic, looks terrible on a divers watch. Perfect sized lugs and lightweight. I managed to get a BNIB random serial 16610 LN and am more than happy now.

What do I miss? The maxi dial and blue loom.

15 May 2012, 03:57 AM	#1
billyr "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: roswell Posts: 33	new sub? Brand new to the site, i bought a 2005 stainless black sub the other day and am debating bringing it back for the newer ceramic modal. Comments are most welcomed as i am very torn. Thanks

15 May 2012, 04:02 AM	#4
rossi46 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Dan Location: CT, by a lake Watch: 16570 Posts: 1,544	Depends... what are your thoughts that led to considering the newer model? Is it just because "it's newer" ? Or, does it come down to the technical differences? (improved clasp, bigger hour markers on dial, blue lume, etc.) __________________ A watch is about the entire package, not just its appearance. Any large watch company not making its own movement is not making a watch at all; they’re just playing dress-up. --The Watch Snob

15 May 2012, 04:13 AM	#6
wrxsti "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 1,695	if you want fatter lugs, wears larger maxi markers/hands ceramic bezel glidelock clasp if u want to keep the classic classic shaped case metal bezel lighter weight Unless you got a great deal on this older sub i would upgrade to the new sub, the glidelock clasp is amazing and that alone is worth upgrading. __________________ PP Geneva

15 May 2012, 04:59 AM	#7
billyr "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: roswell Posts: 33	new sub not sure if my last post made it. i have a 2005 sub that i just got. thinking of getting the newer ceramic stainless black instead. let me know what you guys think, thanks

15 May 2012, 05:17 AM	#8
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	Welcome What would make you consider going from that Sub 16610 to the ceramic version.........just asking....

15 May 2012, 04:00 AM	#2
imono "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: USA Posts: 3,241	A newer Sub 116610 has a slightly different case look. I like newer things so...

15 May 2012, 04:01 AM	#3
fpharryc Banned Join Date: May 2012 Location: CA Posts: 15	pics, please.

15 May 2012, 04:03 AM	#5
Grey.Coupe "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NC, USA Posts: 555	I hesitate to respond because I don't like these "can't decide" posts. However, I did this trade when the new sub came out. I have been very pleased. The bracelet alone is worth the trade.

15 May 2012, 05:25 AM	#9
billyr "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: roswell Posts: 33	i do like the fact that it is a bit bigger and i do like the braclet.

15 May 2012, 05:31 AM	#10
seanthome "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 67	Isn't it the same 40mm size? I wish they would make the sub bigger. The bezel makes the dial look small.

15 May 2012, 05:34 AM	#11
billyr "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: roswell Posts: 33	yes still 40mm the bezel is a little chunkier...you dont like it?

15 May 2012, 05:51 AM	#12
novan3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Luck Location: Toronto Watch: yourself Posts: 477	Newer is shinier..

15 May 2012, 06:39 AM	#13
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	Can't go wrong with either one! __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

15 May 2012, 07:40 AM	#14
judodave1964 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Sussex Watch: seadweller 16600 Posts: 175	have you tried the new sub on ? its a lot heavier than the 16610, I looked into changing/upgrading like you when they first came out but as I have a small wrist it didn't look and feel as good my 16610. But its a very handsome watch and the clasp is a big improvement on ours.

15 May 2012, 08:36 AM	#15
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	Great choice. I, for one, prefer the way the classic 16610 case and lugs flow/blent into the bracelet over the maxi case. But, I do like the new bracelet. Now if we could just ... __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

15 May 2012, 08:38 AM	#16
mmmmp "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Mark P Location: Toronto Watch: SS Wimbledon DJ41 Posts: 2,046	Geez man, give the 16610 a chance! If you're already considering selling it, why did you buy it in the place? Think it through carefully you may regret it. Good luck.

15 May 2012, 09:02 AM	#17
gwozhog "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Point Blank, TX Posts: 2,894	If your having doubts this early you bought the wrong watch. Sorry but other than the wider lugs there is nothing to complain about the new subc. __________________ I once dated a girl in high school and her dad told me I would never amount to anything. He was right

15 May 2012, 09:46 AM	#19
billyr "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: roswell Posts: 33	Thanks all for your comments. I upgraded this afternoon to the new sub!! Love it.

15 May 2012, 09:48 AM	#20
drockadam "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: Pepsi. Posts: 5,749	How about donating your 16610 to the Adam D Submariner Foundation, and then purchasing a 116610LN? But in all seriousness, don't get rid of your 16610. __________________ - Adam Instagram: @GMTSUBTIME

15 May 2012, 09:50 AM	#21
billyr "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: roswell Posts: 33	Thanks guys, love to hear from a TO boy! None the less I did get the new one this afternoon. Appreciate the comments.

15 May 2012, 09:54 AM	#22
drockadam "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: Pepsi. Posts: 5,749	How about donating your 16610 to the Adam D Submariner Foundation, and then purchasing a 116610LN? But in all seriousness, don't get rid of your 16610. __________________ - Adam Instagram: @GMTSUBTIME

15 May 2012, 01:12 PM	#23
DCgator "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PNW Watch: DS,BLNR,SubLV,DJ2 Posts: 8,123	Keep and enjoy what you bought and decide later what models you want to add. My 2c.

15 May 2012, 01:31 PM	#25
MoBe "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 6,773	` depends on what you want or need,only you can decide.

15 May 2012, 02:13 PM	#26
caryyee "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: A Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,180	The deal breaker for me is the newer Glidelock clasp, it's brilliant, and brings up the quality up to the level of the rest of the watch. Myself personally, I couldn't ever go back to the older style pressed clasp bracelets .... that's just my opinion though, it will depend on the reasons why YOU want to change, and if the price differential is worth it to you ...

15 May 2012, 07:49 PM	#27
CLRBLULITE Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: Midwest Watch: DSSD Posts: 191	LOVE the newer Sub ceramic. But I also like newer as well.

15 May 2012, 08:09 PM	#28
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	It just depends which one you like the most. Either older version or newer version have their own strengths and weaknesses. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

16 May 2012, 06:23 AM	#29
SeaDweller50 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Sandy Location: England. Watch: 14060M 2 liner Posts: 3,204	I went the other way. Much prefer the classic look. I prefer the tuna can clasp, aluminium insert, don't like the shine on the ceramic, looks terrible on a divers watch. Perfect sized lugs and lightweight. I managed to get a BNIB random serial 16610 LN and am more than happy now. What do I miss? The maxi dial and blue loom.

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