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Old 7 June 2012, 09:52 PM   #1
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Advice needed on 6263: genuine or modified / fake

I would appreciate any input, guys.
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Old 8 June 2012, 12:25 PM   #2
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Entirely fake. Nice job applying faux patina and age to the papers though! Next!!!
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Old 8 June 2012, 06:51 PM   #3
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Entirely fake. Nice job applying faux patina and age to the papers though! Next!!!
Could you please explain what details make you think it's a fake watch ?
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Old 8 June 2012, 07:38 PM   #4
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Fake and we usually don't help fakers to improve their "products" by hinting to their flaws.
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Old 8 June 2012, 11:44 PM   #5
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Fake and we usually don't help fakers to improve their "products" by hinting to their flaws.
Well, I am not a faker myself and the reason behind my post was to ask knowledgeable people their opinion. So, I am not going to buy this watch.

I spent a day comparing this movement to other 6263 pics found on the net trying to find differences. And I did find some, of course. Balance wheel, etc..

I thought this forum was place where passitionate people shared their knowledge and skills... so other people could avoid buying elaborated fakes..

thank you anyway..
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Old 9 June 2012, 01:56 AM   #6
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I know nothing and would be very curious about why this watch is fake, the bracelet and movment look pretty good, the rest I can't comment on...
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Old 9 June 2012, 04:15 AM   #7
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Go here & educate yourself.http://www.doubleredseadweller.com/w...ona-fakes.html
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Old 9 June 2012, 05:09 AM   #8
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I don't know if it is real - I'm not a Daytona expert. But, I'm leaning towards a real Zenith Daytona.

The bracelet doesn't look right.

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Old 9 June 2012, 02:55 PM   #9
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I don't know if it is real - I'm not a Daytona expert. But, I'm leaning towards a real Zenith Daytona.

The bracelet doesn't look right.

This is not a zenith movement, this is a earlier valjoix movement manual chrono movement, but still looks wrong IMHO and us not an original Daytona valjoix , regards.
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Old 10 June 2012, 02:27 AM   #10
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This is not a zenith movement, this is a earlier valjoix movement manual chrono movement, but still looks wrong IMHO and us not an original Daytona valjoix , regards.
At first I thought is was an El Primero with the winding balance removed. After a second look I don't think so. The column wheel levers are wrong.

I thought the Valjoux movements used cams and not a column wheel.

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Old 10 June 2012, 06:22 PM   #11
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I believe the older valjoix have column wheels, only the 7750 valjoix does not to the older ones to my knowledge regards
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