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Old 10 May 2012, 04:01 AM   #1
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Does Anyone Put Their Vintage Watches on a Winder?

I've used an orbita watch winder in the past for several modern day watches I've owned (PAMs, Rolex and B & R) and currently have my Hulk Sub on the winder at 650 turns per day turning both clockwise & counterclockwise per the Orbita site's recommendations for Rolex. Do any of you put your vintage watches on a winder? I just recently acquired a 18038 Day Date and I am wondering if putting this on a winder could damage/overwork the movement? Seeing that this watch will not be a daily wearer, I'd prefer to keep it wound, but not at the chance of ruining it. I came home today to see the Day and Date wheel on my 18038 acting up and was curious if the winder may have caused this. What I mean by acting up is that Wednesday wasnt entirely visible in the day slot and the 9 in the date wheel looked as if it was ready to change as the top part was just a white portion of the date wheel. I have attached a pic (excuse the crappy quality but you can see what I'm referring to)
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Old 10 May 2012, 04:06 AM   #2
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To be honest . . . I am the winder !

25 winders will by me another Rolex ;-)

We'll almost . . .

BTW . . . . nice DD !

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Old 10 May 2012, 04:13 AM   #3
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I do. It makes me wear them more frequently. Before I got the
winder, I'd sometimes hesitate to wind and set the non-quickset date
and all that. Now I rotate and enjoy my watches more frequently,
so a winder is a great thing in my opinion.
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Old 10 May 2012, 04:20 AM   #4
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If it is a quick set, I wouldn't necessarily bother with a winder. But for slow-set date models, it is convenient. That said, I wouldn't put anything older than a cal. 1570/1520 on it. I do have my 1680 on one now, as I do wear it about once a week, and it's so much easier that way. But I realize I will have to have it serviced every 5 years or so. I have about a half dozen other slow-set date watches, and either have to run through the days (and wear out my thumb and index finger) or wait for the date displayed (or a near one) to wear it. I'm too OCD to not set the date...
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Old 10 May 2012, 04:34 AM   #5
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Yes. No issues.... many will disagree ...... same as if you wear it everyday....
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Old 10 May 2012, 05:05 AM   #6
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If it is a quick set, I wouldn't necessarily bother with a winder. But for slow-set date models, it is convenient....
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Old 10 May 2012, 05:09 AM   #7
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Old 10 May 2012, 08:30 AM   #8
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I don't.

It takes a bit more time to set it because it isn't a quickset but it's worth it.

I see no reason to wear it out by running it on a winder. Besides the less it used the less I should haver to have it serviced. The less a vintage is serviced the better. The less the chance something else goes wrong during a service like messing up a dial.

Not sure why your experiencing the issue your having, but I think I saw a thread earlier where somebody experienced a similiar issue when a watch was on a winder.

I would see if by taking it off the winder if you can't manually advance the time forward and correct it.

If so you might want to re-check your settings on the winder or not use it again.

Possibly somebody will show up with a better idea as to what is taking place.
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Old 10 May 2012, 03:55 PM   #9
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Here is a thought... If it is new to you it could be that it is just dirty or dry and needs some attention.
I had a Sub for two months till I found out it needed a new date wheel because it would not change to the 8th (first time I thought maybe just wound down when it was time to change the second time it was opened up)

Nice watch it is what I am looking for right now.
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Old 10 May 2012, 08:28 PM   #10
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my 1680 was the only one that saw the winder on downtime due to non quick start but now i don't bother, it gets rotated now every 4 weeks or so depending on the date it last stopped
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Old 10 May 2012, 10:06 PM   #11
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[QUOTE=Kingair;3276789]To be honest . . . I am the winder !

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Old 12 May 2012, 01:22 PM   #12
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I see no reason to wear it out by running it on a winder. Besides the less it used the less I should haver to have it serviced. The less a vintage is serviced the better. The less the chance something else goes wrong during a service like messing up a dial.
Great point. None of my vintage pieces have a date, so its not a big deal if i leave one in a drawer to rest for a couple weeks-or more
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Old 14 May 2012, 01:28 AM   #13
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NO!!!!!

Vintage Rolex + Winder = More frequent, expensive Service intervals.
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Old 14 May 2012, 03:12 AM   #14
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Winder not required. Mine's battery operated -----> Oysterquartz
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Old 3 July 2012, 11:09 PM   #15
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Putting a vintage watch on a winder only puts un needed stress and wear on the movement. Bottom line- no vintage watch should be put on a winder Rolex or not.
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Old 4 July 2012, 05:00 AM   #16
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Putting a vintage watch on a winder only puts un needed stress and wear on the movement. Bottom line- no vintage watch should be put on a winder Rolex or not.
I posted this 2 months ago and realize that the topic has been discussed at length and many threads have been posted. I am just replying to this response and playing devil's advocate. I am not trying to shoot holes in your response but am curious if a person owns a perpetual calendar, Why doesn't anyone ever worry about the stress on the movement in that situation considering it is recommended to keep that on a winder? Also, if you do not have a quickset feature what are your thoughts on the constant wear and tear you are putting on the crown and winding stem? My ultimate conclusion is that it is just a matter of preference and there is no definitive answer.
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I posted this 2 months ago and realize that the topic has been discussed at length and many threads have been posted. I am just replying to this response and playing devil's advocate. I am not trying to shoot holes in your response but am curious if a person owns a perpetual calendar, Why doesn't anyone ever worry about the stress on the movement in that situation considering it is recommended to keep that on a winder? Also, if you do not have a quickset feature what are your thoughts on the constant wear and tear you are putting on the crown and winding stem? My ultimate conclusion is that it is just a matter of preference and there is no definitive answer.
I agree with your summation..... in general I only put my daily wearers on a winder some of which are vintage.
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Old 4 July 2012, 05:14 AM   #18
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I agree with your summation..... in general I only put my daily wearers on a winder some of which are vintage.
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Old 4 July 2012, 10:07 AM   #19
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i never knew that putting a vintage on a winder was bad!

i suppose i will take my 1675 off it.
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Old 4 July 2012, 12:05 PM   #20
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I posted this 2 months ago and realize that the topic has been discussed at length and many threads have been posted. I am just replying to this response and playing devil's advocate. I am not trying to shoot holes in your response but am curious if a person owns a perpetual calendar, Why doesn't anyone ever worry about the stress on the movement in that situation considering it is recommended to keep that on a winder? Also, if you do not have a quickset feature what are your thoughts on the constant wear and tear you are putting on the crown and winding stem? My ultimate conclusion is that it is just a matter of preference and there is no definitive answer.
I agree 100 percent with you.
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Old 4 July 2012, 12:11 PM   #21
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My wife's OP 6618 is on the winder when not used.
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Old 4 July 2012, 01:03 PM   #22
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Nope-never have, never will. Actually find it fun to wind them myself
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Old 4 July 2012, 01:08 PM   #23
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I have never used a winder and I never saw the point of using 1. I have more than 1 watch so to say and if I want to wear something I pick it up wind it set the date and enjoy looking at it and admiring it while I do this.
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Yes, I have have a non-quickset vintage Tudor Date-Day Jumbo that is a PIA to set, so I always leave it on the winder when not wearing it.
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Old 4 July 2012, 02:27 PM   #25
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My watches are at the bank in a safe :(
Too many thieves out there.
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Old 4 July 2012, 06:55 PM   #26
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My watches are at the bank in a safe :(
Too many thieves out there.
Each to their own, but I just can't understand why you would even bother having them if that's the case.
There are surely better investments to be made if you're not even going to enjoy owning a fine watch?

That's what insurance is for, isn't it?

I love my vintage, and would be devastated if someone stole it, but I'd actually be better off financially if they did!

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