TRF Member - ROLEXSPORT - FRAUD

[Timlim3000]

Dear Rolex Forum,

RE: SELLER - TRF Member - ROLEXSPORT FRAUD!!

In the past week I had attempted to purchase a ROLEX Submariner 5513 from SELLER -
TRF Member - Rolexsport

Name - Hieu Tran
Address - 11758 E Louisiana Ave, Aurora CO, 80012
A Detailed Receipt of what I am selling and what it includes -
Rolex SS Submariner 5513 Factory
Reference Number: 5513
Serial Number: L557845
SERVICE PAPER JUNE2012 WITH 1YR WARRANTY, ORIGINAL REPLACED PARTS, FACTORY WATCH

SELLER Banking Details:
Bank Name - JPMORGAN CHASE BANK, N.A.
Bank Address - 1627 S Havana St, Aurora CO, 80012
Routing Number - 102001017
Account Number - 637258227

The Final Agreed price was USD3750 including International Fedex Overnight Shipment.

I have transferred the funds to his account in Aurora, Colorado, the details are:
Date Transferred: 24th July 2012
Western Transfer Code: 1443918036
Sender: Timothy Lim Seng Tuc
Receiver: Hieu Tran aka. Rolexsport - Email Address: [email protected]
Total Amount: USD 3750 and Immediate Transfer Fees: USD150.

In the Western Union Sustem the FUNDS have been marked as COLLECTED.
I had gotten 2 email messages from Rolexsport SELLER -

25th July 2012:
"hi tim, yeah i stopped by earlier and filled out the paperwork and all but they said i needed a license and a passport for anything over 2k dollars so it's gonna be a while before i can get a passport because mine is expired already so it's up to you i guess if you wanna wait?"

25th July 2012:
"hi tim, well sorry about all that then, never knew they mad such trouble about having two ids, i went to another western union after work to see if they be easy but they say the money was withdrawn already so i guess we're done... gl on another 5513 and i'll just try to sell it to somebody else... thanx"

After receiving these 2 emails I had informed SELLER Rolexsport that I have lost interest as there are too many delays. As per his emails above he claims to have NOT Collected the Funds, but after confirmation from RHB Bank, Malaysia and Western Union I have be informed that the FUNDS have been collected.

I have the supporting documents from both Banks prooving that FUNDS were transferred and COLLECTED.

The only way there could have been a system error would have taken place in 1st Bank location visited by SELLER - Rolexsport and clarify with Bank that FUNDS were not retrieved. SELLER has avoided or ignored my numerous emails.

I have ONLY one option which is to assume SELLER has Run OFF with the Payment Funds.

I hope that as Administrator of the Rolex Forum you can help me POST this Tragic Experience to ALL Members to avoid any FUTURE Frauds.

If possible send me any and ALL information on the SELLER Rolexsport so I can pass to the US Embassy in Malaysia for them to further pursue.

Regards
Timothy Lim
TRF Member timlim3000
Malaysia Mobile: +60126778819
Email: [email protected]

[R44]

Tim, Are you for real? I hope not as you have broken some (including the most important) of the rules about buying a watch online NEVER EVER EVER PAY WITH WESTERN UNION. I am serious NEVER EVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES OR STORY - It is the equivalent of giving the money away so if you are going to do this find a charity of your choice and at least you will get a good feeling that it has done some good. Think WESTERN UNION then think I am giving my money directly to a low life thief no ifs no buts that is fact. The rule is if anyone wants paying by WESTERN UNION they are thiefs who are trying to rob you. I thought the word had got around and this didn't happen anymore.

I am sorry if you really have been caught out. My advice would be to tap into the expert advice available on the forums before any future purchases.

[Brit78]

This is terrible and I certainly hope that you come to some resolution. I also certainly hope that this is just a coincidence that the seller is in Aurora, Colorado, where the movie theater massacre just took place.

[KatGirl]

Originally Posted by Brit78

This is terrible and I certainly hope that you come to some resolution. I also certainly hope that this is just a coincidence that the seller is in Aurora, Colorado, where the movie theater massacre just took place.

I noticed that odd coincidence, too.

[rr-nyc]

OP. I'm sorry that this has happened and hope you get resolution. This does no good for you now but Western Union should be the first clue of a scam

[rr-nyc]

Originally Posted by KatGirl

I noticed that odd coincidence, too.

The population of Aurora is 330,000+ residents- the size of some major cities. I don't see anything odd

[patek.wis]

Western Union is bad - but bank wire is the same if you don't trust the person who you are buying from. Paypal sucks too.

To be honest, without buying the seller - theres no GOOD payment

Best of luck, but I suggest you take down his personal banking info such as routing, etc. as I'm sure you're violating some TRF bylaw or at least privacy laws.

[patek.wis]

Originally Posted by rr-nyc

The population of Aurora is 330,000+ residents- the size of some major cities. I don't see anything odd

Agreed,

[ralpie]

Originally Posted by R44

Tim, Are you for real? I hope not as you have broken some (including the most important) of the rules about buying a watch online NEVER EVER EVER PAY WITH WESTERN UNION. I am serious NEVER EVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES OR STORY - It is the equivalent of giving the money away so if you are going to do this find a charity of your choice and at least you will get a good feeling that it has done some good. Think WESTERN UNION then think I am giving my money directly to a low life thief no ifs no buts that is fact. The rule is if anyone wants paying by WESTERN UNION they are thiefs who are trying to rob you. I thought the word had got around and this didn't happen anymore.

I am sorry if you really have been caught out. My advice would be to tap into the expert advice available on the forums before any future purchases.

Edit: Will already answered this- I saw it after I posted.

I agree, thieves tend to favor Western Union. My question is, why is it any more dangerous than a wire?

[bondtoys]

Originally Posted by ralpie

Edit: Will already answered this- I saw it after I posted.

I agree, thieves tend to favor Western Union. My question is, why is it any more dangerous than a wire?

Because if you wire on an account, there is a person behind that account, whom you may hold responsible.

With Western Union, everything a fraudster needs is a transaction code.

[Lamone]

Timothy,
I am sorry to hear about your horrible experience....
You can contact the FBI your local U.S. Embassy. It might be able to help or put you in touch with its cyberfraud division. International cyberfraud is taken very seriously.
Furthermore, in the USA, Western Union uses webcams to capture whomever collects the funds.

[azguy]

Soory to hear about this, but you'll have zero recourse from using Western Union....

[crowncollection]

sory to hear about your story, all the best in recovering your funds