SWISS question

[Flyjet601]

Hi all

I know a production run of A serial SD's had only SWISS at the bottom of the dial. Not service dials....
Did any other production watch in the A series come from the factory with just SWISS on the dial also? expII, GMT etc

Thanks

[txdinh]

Yes, I have seen many late U and early A series sport models with SWISS dials.

[padi56]

Yes there could be thousands of Rolex watches U and A serial with just Swiss although the change from Tritium to Luminover was around 1998 with the A serials.All these Internet codes are just a approximation when a case/clasp was stamped and not when a watch was made.Now A serials ran from November 1998 till approx December 1999 but could be overlaped.And they started using Swiss Made early 2000 on, so its possible many of the last of the A serial cases on all Rolex watches could have just Swiss or Swiss Made on Dial but no big deal either way .

[Flyjet601]

Originally Posted by padi56

Yes there could be thousands of Rolex watches U and A serial with just Swiss although the change from Tritium to Luminover was around 1998 with the A serials.All these Internet codes are just a approximation when a case/clasp was stamped and not when a watch was made.Now A serials ran from November 1998 till approx December 1999 but could be overlaped.And they started using Swiss Made early 2000 on, so its possible many of the last of the A serial cases on all Rolex watches could have just Swiss or Swiss Made on Dial but no big deal either way .

Thanks guys
I agree with you Padi there is a lot of Internet hype inflating price on Rolex watches, yet people will pay crazy amounts for a PN Daytona that they could not give away during production. and serial numbers are approximated dates, nothing more.

My question was based on I'm looking At buying a 16570 A series with a SWISS dial and I wanted to see if it was possible.

Thanks all...

[77T]

This is a little different but I also had an A serial Expl.II with a plain SWISS polar dial.

[Flyjet601]

Originally Posted by 77T

This is a little different but I also had an A serial Expl.II with a plain SWISS polar dial.

Thanks 77T......exactly what I was looking at

[a_rigsby2]

I have an A Series GMT II with just SWISS... personally I like the uniqueness of it...

I have always wondered if it did anything for the value.. My gut says no even though it does increase the value to me.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by a_rigsby2

I have an A Series GMT II with just SWISS... personally I like the uniqueness of it...

I have always wondered if it did anything for the value.. My gut says no even though it does increase the value to me.

What uniqueness afraid there is more than one watch,there could hundreds or even thousands of Rolex watches with a A case stamp Swiss only dial.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by Flyjet601

Thanks guys
I agree with you Padi there is a lot of Internet hype inflating price on Rolex watches, yet people will pay crazy amounts for a PN Daytona that they could not give away during production. and serial numbers are approximated dates, nothing more.

My question was based on I'm looking At buying a 16570 A series with a SWISS dial and I wanted to see if it was possible.

Thanks all...

All of the watches in the Professional series used "Swiss" only dials during the initial 98/99 changeover, not just the SD.

Here's the history.. sort of.. Luminova is a proprietary mixture and trademarked by the Japanese company Nemoto & Col. LTD(there is some history in our Reference Library) They began using it in Swiss watches in about '98. During that time, Luminova built a lume factory in Switzerland, specifically for Swiss watches.. They finished the factory in~2000 and changed the name to SuperLuminova (it is still the exact same mixture, just renamed for the Swiss Watch industry). With the Swiss Factory and the name change to Super Luminova, the dials changed from Swiss to Swiss Made.

Coincidence.... I don't think so..

[Mickey®]

I understand everything that's been posted so far. The only question I have is why?? why go to Swiss for a couple years only to go back.

I can't tell you why honestly but I won't buy a watch that says SWISS ...I just don't like the looks of it...

[Flyjet601]

Originally Posted by Tools

All of the watches in the Professional series used "Swiss" only dials during the initial 98/99 changeover, not just the SD.

Here's the history.. sort of.. Luminova is a proprietary mixture and trademarked by the Japanese company Nemoto & Col. LTD(there is some history in our Reference Library) They began using it in Swiss watches in about '98. During that time, Luminova built a lume factory in Switzerland, specifically for Swiss watches.. They finished the factory in~2000 and changed the name to SuperLuminova (it is still the exact same mixture, just renamed for the Swiss Watch industry). With the Swiss Factory and the name change to Super Luminova, the dials changed from Swiss to Swiss Made.

Coincidence.... I don't think so..

Thanks Larry
Great info

[fernandomantaras]

I am absolutely new in this forum. A few days ago I purchased an used SUB A serie, from an traditional jewelry in Brazil. I start to be afraid when I saw teh word "swiss"instead "swiss made"at 6 in the dial.
The atendant at jewelry swear to me that the watch is authentic... All the other features seems to be OK. The only detail is the absence of "made"....
Many thanks for the explanation!

Best regards
Fernando