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Old 20 August 2012, 11:34 AM   #1
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New Tudor MSRP

Hello guys I have been itching to experiment with the Tudor's lately. I have an upcoming trip to Hong Kong next month and I was thinking of buying one or may be two of the three models while there. Does any one know the MSRP of the following.

Pelagos
Black bay
Heritage chronograph.

How is the resale in terms of desirability of these watches in case I want to sell and get something else. Is it better to just pick a preowned one here or the prices there make sense to by new in Hong Kong.

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Old 20 August 2012, 11:39 AM   #2
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I'm thinking the domestic pre-owned market would yield better values versus BNIB + duty.
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Old 20 August 2012, 11:43 AM   #3
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I had read on another thread a member preordering his Pelagos for 3950. New ones here are around 5500.
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Old 20 August 2012, 11:44 AM   #4
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True - I was comparing pre-owned here vs. BNIB there per your question:

"Is it better to just pick a preowned one here or the prices there make sense to by new in Hong Kong."
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Old 20 August 2012, 11:46 AM   #5
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I think the fact that they are so new will make it harder to get a pre-owned at a decent price.
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Old 20 August 2012, 11:57 AM   #6
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These suggested retail prices are from the July 2012 Tudor Canada catalogue.


25500TN Pelagos $3,950.00

79220R Heritage Black Bay $2,950.00 with vintage leather bracelet. $3,250.00 with steel bracelet

70330H Heritage Chrono $4,200.00
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Old 20 August 2012, 12:02 PM   #7
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Depends on exchange rates at the time. I paid $3405 for a BB plus ten percent premium, shipping and $100 import duty. Problem with them being import only is there is no set msrp it depends where you can get one from and the X rate on the day. To get a BB at the moment is probably going to be heading for 4k.
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Old 20 August 2012, 12:37 PM   #8
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dont you guys find that a clean vintage tudor snowflake sub to be a deal at 3000-3500? it has all the rolex goodies and will only appreciate. i love the new tudors, but paying 4-5k is pretty crazy. i guess i am just old school - i love my tudor sub because of the common elements with the rolex sister
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Old 20 August 2012, 02:31 PM   #9
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FYI - the Black Bay and Pelagos are not yet available in Hong Kong. Went to a couple of different ADs and got different answers as to when they will be available. Some said mid-September; some said end of the year.

As for the Heritage Chrono, you can find them pretty easily at secondary market dealers all over Hong Kong.
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Old 20 August 2012, 03:23 PM   #10
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I wish they were available in the US...such a bummer I have to go to canada to locate one!
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Old 20 August 2012, 04:21 PM   #11
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These suggested retail prices are from the July 2012 Tudor Canada catalogue.


25500TN Pelagos $3,950.00

79220R Heritage Black Bay $2,950.00 with vintage leather bracelet. $3,250.00 with steel bracelet

70330H Heritage Chrono $4,200.00
$700 just for an added 300m WR and Ti comstruction? i think underpriced?
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$700 just for an added 300m WR and Ti comstruction? i think underpriced?
And a back-lumed matte ceramic bezel, and a pretty nifty adjustable clasp. Pretty reasonable I think.
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Old 20 August 2012, 04:45 PM   #13
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reasonable for sure!

i have a BB and to think that if i add ard $700 i can get a pelagos, not bad!
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Old 20 August 2012, 11:33 PM   #14
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They are all nice in their own way, but i think the THC still is the straw that stirs the drink for the Tudor Heritage lineup.
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These suggested retail prices are from the July 2012 Tudor Canada catalogue.


25500TN Pelagos $3,950.00

79220R Heritage Black Bay $2,950.00 with vintage leather bracelet. $3,250.00 with steel bracelet
70330H Heritage Chrono $4,200.00
That is such a smoking deal for a new watch in 2012. I simply can't see a reason why a Sub (in house movement and all), should cost 2.5x that amount. The value just isn't there for me anymore, and it seems that Rolex is now targeting Tudor to people like me (the pre-maxi case, <$5,000 MSRP, Rolex buyer).
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buy all 3! If you don't like then sell to me lol
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Old 21 August 2012, 01:49 AM   #17
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dont you guys find that a clean vintage tudor snowflake sub to be a deal at 3000-3500? it has all the rolex goodies and will only appreciate. i love the new tudors, but paying 4-5k is pretty crazy. i guess i am just old school - i love my tudor sub because of the common elements with the rolex sister
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Thanks guys for all the helpful information. I see that a pre-owned heritage chrono is way down from its current Msrp here in the US gray market. But a new Black Bay is way up from its current Msrp. can some one comment why is that.
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Current supply and demand. Give it some time and you'll see the black bay prices reflect a similar pattern as the chrono.

I love the BB too, but being worth more than 3250.00 on a watch with an ETA movement is pushing the limits IMO. Any amount over 1000.00, I am paying particular attention to what's 'under the hood'....
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Current supply and demand. Give it some time and you'll see the black bay prices reflect a similar pattern as the chrono.

I love the BB too, but being worth more than 3250.00 on a watch with an ETA movement is pushing the limits IMO. Any amount over 1000.00, I am paying particular attention to what's 'under the hood'....
You must REALLY hate Panerai then. :)
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You must REALLY hate Panerai then. :)
LOL! I like them....just on other peoples wrists (wallets)!


Nothing against ETA, I think they produce quality product, but 3250.00 is plenty for an ETA based diver even with their highest grade 2824.
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Old 21 August 2012, 02:52 AM   #22
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dont forget Omega, Tudor, TAG etc all use modified ETA, and all for well over $1000 so they must not be that bad. Keep in mind there are 4-5 grades of ETA's, and im sure Rolex would not put less than a Chronometer grade in the Tudor's. Just my .02
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dont forget Omega, Tudor, TAG etc all use modified ETA, and all for well over $1000 so they must not be that bad. Keep in mind there are 4-5 grades of ETA's, and im sure Rolex would not put less than a Chronometer grade in the Tudor's. Just my .02
Don't forget IWC. They use the standard ETA models on their basic watches, and highly modified 7750's in a few watches (the very expensive double chrono for instance).

I don't think that ~3200 is too expensive for an ETA Tudor when a Sub is ~8500. Sure the Sub has an in-house movement, but it's not as if it's a rare or advanced movement with amazing finishing (it's not).
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a sub for 8500 is an insane amount of money. i am just old i suppose. i paid 4700 for my SD in 2005 and i thought i should have my head examined
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a sub for 8500 is an insane amount of money. i am just old i suppose. i paid 4700 for my SD in 2005 and i thought i should have my head examined
I remember thinking "man you'd have to be crazy to pay $5,000 for a SS Rolex diver". Now they sell for that on the second hand market! At least the bracelet is nicer, I guess.
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Old 21 August 2012, 04:27 AM   #26
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At least it looks like a trend happening here, you should be able to get back your original investment if you can hold on for 10+ years, i hope Tudor shares the same fate 10 years from now.

Im guessing 5k is how much a SS sub costed 10 years ago.
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At least it looks like a trend happening here, you should be able to get back your original investment if you can hold on for 10+ years, i hope Tudor shares the same fate 10 years from now.

Im guessing 5k is how much a SS sub costed 10 years ago.
I seem to recall them costing 5K around 5 years ago. I could be a little off though.
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I had read on another thread a member preordering his Pelagos for 3950. New ones here are around 5500.
where 5500? georgia usa? canadian msrp for the pelagos is 3900 cdn
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